Difference between og:image:url vs og:image - facebook-opengraph

Should my web page include both og:image:url and og:image or just og:image?
Also, do I need to include og:image:width and og:image:height?

According to ogp.me, og:image is identical to og:image:url. In my experience og:image has been sufficient.
As for og:image:width and og:image:height, ahrefs claims they ensure your snippet appears correctly and Facebook says they allow its crawler to render the image asynchronously. In general, I would suggest reading the docs for any bots/crawlers/APIs you anticipate exposing links to so you may adhere to their rules.

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Had all relavant opengraph social meta (created by AIOS) but facebook debug failed to recognize

I know this is an old topic but I've digged dozens of related questions and solutions but neither of them works.
Some of questions I've read:
Can't fix: 'og:image' property should be explicitly provided, even if a value can be inferred from other tags
Wordpress All In One SEO plugin not sharing to Facebook wall
My test url for facebook debug:
https://trangthietbiytehcm.com
Also, I debuged via Facebook sharing debug and Facebook Object debug
Here is Facebook Object debug:
Here is Facebook Sharing debug:
here is the post's head tab:
I also add that sometimes this post could be displayed well (including image thumbnail) on my facebook page but most of time it did not.
I've cleared my wordpress caches.
Absolutely, I can read the social opengraph tab on my post but facebook failed to read them. I do not know the reason behind this problem. Please help me to be clear! thanks
EDIT:
This is a capture of the fact that sometimes Facebook receives my blog post well. And the post link is: https://trangthietbiytehcm.com/uncategorized/san-pham-test-lan-2/
And I wnat to add that the above test link (https://trangthietbiytehcm.com/uncategorized/bai-viet-mau/) also has the same fact as this
EDIT (UPDATE):
After months of be frustrated with this problem, I even tested on another new web on new host server. I've finally found that the reason of this problem is the page cache function of the W3 total cache
We've found this issue to be related to W3 Total Cache, too. Specifically, it's the Wordpress Dashboard > Performance > Minify > Eliminate render-blocking CSS by moving it to HTTP body feature. What this does is shove all the CSS right after the tag, moving all the other header tags down.
And it seems Facebook (and Twitter?) only parse a fixed amount of the page before deciding to try and render... and if your CSS is long, well, it never sees your og:image tag (or any others, like Title, etc).
We have yet to find a good fix which still allows this feature to be used.

Linkedin share api not picking up open-graph meta tags

I am sharing an url "https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/trend-tracking/jaitley-promises-robust-tax-regime-for-investors/articleshow/62741496.cms?utm_source=linkedin.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=TEST-LINKEDIN" via share api, but no image is picked up from the og:image tag (i.e. meta property="og:image" content="https://example.com" ).
But when i am trying to share the same url from linkedin admin page, it is picking up the image. This means that the image follows all the size-standards and other things required by linkedin.
Then why is the share api not picking up image url from the open graph tag.
If you think your share is properly formatted, but it's not working, first thing I would do is head on over to the LinkedIn Post Inspector, which will examine your URL and look for problems.
But, your URL does look right! Are you sharing like this, with proper URL encoding?
https://www.linkedin.com/sharing/share-offsite/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftimesofindia.indiatimes.com%2Ftrend-tracking%2Fjaitley-promises-robust-tax-regime-for-investors%2Farticleshow%2F62741496.cms%3Futm_source%3Dlinkedin.com%26utm_medium%3Dsocial%26utm_campaign%3DTEST-LINKEDIN
Because this link works for me! Take a look:
Sometimes you just need another pair of eyes on the same problem! Hope this helps!

Open Graph image issue on linkedin

Im having issues with my project right now regarding linkedin share. The image(thumbnail) doesnt showed up.
My question is, does the url change could also affect?
For example i added the og tags like this:
https://domain_name.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/2_About-Team-Photo_New-1.jpg
but when i open up the source code the url was change to:
https://d2gkdq5vdbd74s.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/2_About-Team-Photo_New-1.jpg
Does this change affect the Linkedin Share?
By the way the facebook share has no issues at all.
Please help me. Thank you.
Reggards,
gbl
My hunch is that your page doesn't have the Open Graph prefix on its or tag.
<html lang="en-US" prefix="og: http://ogp.me/ns# fb: http://ogp.me/ns/fb# website: http://ogp.me/ns/website#">
I believe I've come across that as an issue with LinkedIn shares in the past. As for the URL change, that shouldn't impact it. I believe I've used images from different domains successfully in the past for Open Graph. Do you have a plugin enabled that might be syncing your assets to CloudFront or S3? That might be the cause of that.
I wrote a plugin a while back that might save you some hassle with all of this -- it comprehensively and intelligently adds all of OG tags needed, including the prefix, and allows you to customize that data as you need per page or globally (if you're a developer, you can do this all programmatically with some built-in filters. It also lacks the confusing configuration and bloat of other 'do it all' plugins, which is one of the main reasons I built it. You should check out:
https://wordpress.org/plugins/complete-open-graph/

Google Analytics, iframes & cross-domain

I have GA on every page on one domain (actually not me, but my company, whose programmer needs auditing). Just the default code (Classic version, ga.js), no special accommodations whatsoever that I've seen or know of. Bare minimal if any configuration past registering the service with the main site...
All the pages are either aspx or static HTML. It's common practice for this guy to embed pages on the site within other pages on the site in iframes, where both the parent (top-level) & child (embedded) pages contain the GA script.
I don't really know much at all about GA, have never worked with it, but I do suspect that might result in extra hits being counted by GA or something, that that may be messing with the metrics. But then I've read stuff about GA using first-party cookies so by default pages loaded in iframes won't be tracked/counted... I could really use some clarification on this, please.
Then our programmer frames pages from the main site in pages on other sites that we own, that are on different domains. So then there's this cross-domain business, with no segregation of sources, because they really don't care much. So what should be the outcome of that? The external sites' pages don't have the GA code.
However, we're rebuilding one of those other sites - actually I am, for the most part - and the programmer told me to just copy and paste the same exact GA script used on the main site into that one. So, it's a different domain. That wouldn't work as-is, would it? Wouldn't there have to be some sort of special configuration, setting of the domain, something?
I'd really appreciate if someone could tell me more about the scenarios described above. Thanks in advance.
In the Google Analytics developer menu, you can create a new 'profile' for this new site. The analytics will then be tracked for just that one site, not for all. In theory, it is possible to use one GA.js for all your sites, but it kind of kills the whole concept of Google Analytics, so it's not recommended.
Your really shouldn't be using iframes anymore IMO. There are reasons to use them like embedding code for tracking etc, I think, even GA uses iframes. But, generally Google doesn't like them because a lot of spammers use them to try and fool the Google Crawler.
Also, it get's very complicated to understand what is going on within GA.
To answer your question: Each iframe is like an independent webpage completely separated from the other webpage (for security reasons). So when Google or a web browser goes to your website it will do this:
Load your main html document.
Render that page.
See that you have an iframe.
Load that page in the iframe.
Render the iframe.
Now, if you don't have GA installed on the iframe page it will not track the page being loaded.
But if you do put GA in the iframe it will record when the iframe is loaded or the webpage is loaded.
But, remember that one of the main reasons of having GA is to see where your customers are coming from and why. If you have an iframe of another webpage, you really don't know if that is because a customer is:
A) visiting your website from the page directly.
OR
B) the customer is visiting that page through an iframe on another page.
It can get very complicated
You must generate a new tracker for each domain you are using. Otherwise what is to stop someone from just copying your GA code, and putting it on their webpage.

Web crawlers and IFrames

Hypothetical Situation: I have a small obscure website called "miniatureBoltsInCarburetors.com" which provides content about the miniature bolts which hold a carburetor together as well as some general related automotive information. My site also has a single page which allows someone to find the missing bolt in their carburetor, and while no one will access this page directly from my website, one billion other popular automotive sites have embedded this single page in their website using an iframe, yet not included a link back to my site.
I recognize that this question is related to SEO which is considered off topic, however, all of the many SEO related forums discuss the marketing steps one could take, and not the programming steps or strategies, and hope others will allow this question to be answered here.
I wish my site "miniatureBoltsInCarburetors.com" to be ranked high for general automotive searches. What could I do to allow the 3rd party sites which include an iframe back to my site to improve my ranking? Could using JavaScript in the iframe to create a link on the parent page provide any value? What about when my server renders the page, use PHP to get the referring URL from $_SERVER, and include it in the content?
I am providing a solution here. Not sure if this is what you want though.
In your page which is used by other websites in iframe you can put below Javascript. This javascript checks if the webpage is opened inside an iframe or directly in browser.
So using this check when you see it is opened in an iframe. On click on something navigate to your website.
// This works in all browsers
function inIframe () {
try {
return window.self !== window.top;
} catch () {
return true;
}
}
Also for your reference you can check the below URL.
How to prevent my site page to be loaded via 3rd party site frame of iFrame
Hope it helps.
Iframes are seen seperate pages by Google. Your approach may end up being penalized due to being sourced from untrusted site. According to Google Webmaster Support
Frames can cause problems for search engines because they don't
correspond to the conceptual model of the web. Google tries to
associate framed content with the page containing the frames, but we
don't guarantee that we will.
One of the best approaches to rank higher for a specific keyword is, make multiple related sites. In your case a 3-4 paged site about carburetors, bolts, other things your primary site contain would do it. These mini sites will be more intense about the subject due to less page count. Of course they should contain unique articles on each page. Then link from mini websites to primary websites and you can see the dramatic change.
In fact, the thing you are trying to do was a tactic to rank competitors down worked occasionally a few years ago. Now, it is still a risk.
I see. You don't want to mess up the page for your own site, but you want to do something with all the uncredited embeddings.
The solution is fairly simple:
Create a copy of the page.
Switch your site to use the copy.
Amend the version that countless other sites are embedding, so that there is a small link back to you. Or, add an iframe blocker script that will load your site.
If the page is active (ie user interacts with it to find the missing bolt) you could include a sales message with the response encouraging the user to visit your site.
I think that your goal is getting your link onto these other sites long enough to get indexed by Google before it is noticed by the people doing the embedding, so it's a bit of a balancing act.
I see conflicting advice about how Google indexes iframes. You should use a PageRank checker to see if the existing iframe page url has PageRank, and compare it to the page that you embed it on.
I dont Think you need to worry ,.
Google bot does seem to crawl through Iframes ,but the Web-Page Containing that Iframe is not Credited for that Content .. In other Words,, Page-Ranking of that particular Web-Page do not Change due to Contents from Iframe .
is IFrame crawled by Google?
Do robots crawl iframes?

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