At the moment I have a problem I cannot pin down. Seemingly at random my communication with my RS232 Alicat Device will get held up. It will get held up somewhere in the read or write process and be unable to complete it. Upon closing the VI I will get a "Resetting VI" error in Labview 2020. I am using 7 of the 9 RS232 ports. My question is:
How do I fix this problem so that I do not get a communication drop OR (more likely)
How do I code the system such that I can catch and move through this problem or reset the connection. Something of a VISA read/write timeout? Open to ideas on how to move past the block
Here is what I have gathered about the problem:
Windows 10, I’ve tested everything on multiple computers. It happens no matter what.
It happens at random. It might happen twice within 20 minutes or not for a couple of hours.
I have never experienced the error when probing the line. I don’t know if that is a clue, or if that speaks to the randomness of the problem
Baud Rate = 9600, Prior to this I was running at 19,200 and experienced equivalent issues. The manufacturer recommended lowering the baud rate to reduce noise. I have also isolated the cable from other parts of the hardware. At this point noise on the connection is not an issue, but I am still experiencing the error.
My buffer size is 1000 bytes.
By termination character is \r. I cannot imagine a scenario where it fails to read a termination character due to the size of my buffer
I'm querying it every 50ms. Far below the threshold of a standard timeout. Too much?
What I am currently testing.
Due to how my code block is setup I cannot yet confirm if it is getting locked up on the read or write block or both. I'm attempting to isolate the problem with only minor modifications to see if I can isolate it.
Attached is slimmed down version of my code that I isolated the error to.
I have experienced similar problems with some RS232 devices from different suppliers. The (quite bad) solution was to connect and disconnect for each communication command. The question would be what sample rate you need.
Another idea is to replace that device with an ethernet device. If I am not mistaken Alicat supplies those with Modbus (TCP).
The issue turned out to be specific to windows/my laptop. There is a USB setting that disables inactive USB's after a certain amount of time. The setting to disable the timeout was unavailable through the control panel on my laptop, though it was available on my coworkers. I had to use powershell commands to change the setting
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I am a beginner in Android and testing Android code in which I am receiving and sending data through UART communication.
Hardware for communication- MAX232 device which is connected to Raspberry Pi3 Model B and the other part of MAX232 is connected to Vending Machine Port(Rx,Tx,Gnd to communicate my android app with the Vending Machine). My communication breaks SPORADICALLY and then starts communicating.
I do not know what the reason is
If anyone can help me in this, please suggest. Or any other information will be needed,I will share
private static final String UART_DEVICE_NAME = "UART0"; // define in my code.
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I have to use ttyAMA0(PL011 UART) port because baudrate does not
change with the core frequency like with ttyS0(MIniUART)
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For example: If I send 100 commands one by one, I get 2-5 times this
error.
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> ERROR: Failed to open /dev/ttyAMA0: No such file or directory
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Same thing happens to me reading data. I do not talk to the device (particle photon) connected to it, just listen. Since i'm expecting a response frequently, anything more than a couple seconds means things have gone south on one side or the other. It didn't seem likely though that my photon code was bad, as I had done many day-long tests with other things reading the data (arduino IDE, whatever).
Anyway, I created a runnable that fires every few seconds and checks when the last received response was. If it exceeds 60 seconds (things are most certainly wrecked and not going to get any better), I'll attempt to start up the connection again (Periperhal manager's openUartDevice). The main code waits another 60 seconds before trying again if it still has not received a response.
I also added code in 'onUartDeviceError' to trigger a callback the second that goes bad (not really sure if that's ever been the culprit in this), which will attempt the same restart logic but with a much smaller wait (like 5 seconds).
Lastly I made the Pi reboot itself (and thus the attached photon) so everything starts fresh, every morning at 6am. This has solved the issue for my purposes and its been in service for somewhere in the neighborhood of two years. Due to this reliability issue I don't do anything important with the pi, it simply exists to aggregate data from a few places and provide JSON. The photon is much more reliable even if the pi stops listening to it, so it controls the important/dangerous stuff (heaters, lithium batteries). Hopes this helps a little, but maybe some reconnect logic would solve the problem.
I'm having an issue with some embedded mobile devices that have a buggy TCP stack. We're trying to update these devices but the firmware download fails, unless the mobile connection is very very good. Since it's an EDGE connection, it's usually bad.
Part of the problem is that the devices need quite a bit of time to write the data to storage. This is probably what leads to packet loss, but the connection never recovers.
I'm thinking that if I could control the connection at TCP level, I might be able to get around this problem. We tried changing the congestion control and it doesn't help, but we're still looking into that.
In the meantime I'd like to look into this option. Is there any way to do it, without writing my own TCP stack / kernel module?
I didn't find any way to do this so in the end I set up a new server and recompiled the linux kernel with a modified TCP_RTO_MAX value (5s instead of 120s). This seems to have solved my problem. My guess is that the network was not the actual issue but rather devices taking too long to store the data. This is a very specific case and this solution wouldn't help in any situation where the network connection is actually slow.
I am using 3 micro-controller on a board.
Main micro, gateway micro and safety micro;
name suggest the associated applications.
Internal watchdog exist for all three, but I need to have an external supervision so as not to have a buggy timer code nullifying the effect of internal watchdog. Also to keep the BOM cost low, so can use just 1 external watchdog.
Propose to use the following strategy:
Main microcontroller: We plan to have the internal watchdog and as well an external watchdog for this.
Safety Microcontroller: We plan to have internal watchdog and as well monitoring over SPI by Main microcontroller.
Gateway Microcontroller: We plan to have internal watchdog and as well monitoring over SPI by Main microcontroller.
One issue with this is - EMI or noise issues over line causing SPI corruption and hence false RESET from main micro.
Has anybody faced similar challenge? Any suggestions for this?
Many Thanks for your help!!!!
Not knowing the specifics of your application, it is not possible to give you a definitive answer. The way you would normally solve this sort of problem is to do a failure mode and effects analysis. Essentially you list out all the parts of your system and then brainstorm all the possible failure modes you think could happen. EMC would be one of them. You then estimate a probability that each failure mode will occur and assign a severity to it in the event that it does occur. Multiplying these out will allow you to identify the areas that carry greater impact and need extra protection. When all the failure modes have a severity x risk value below a threshold set by your application, you will have a 'valid' solution.
Not doing a thorough analysis like this means you may very well put all your effort into defending the front door while leaving the back door unlocked.
I am doing a measurement project where I send and receive data from numerous devices on my network. The send/receive can be considered fast and intensive, as there is almost no pause and a continuous flow of data. However, the data to/from each device is quite small, on the order of a couple of bytes each. For some reason, I am experiencing a reset of my entire ethernet connection where my internet connection also goes down, and I lose connection to all my devices as well. I have never experienced such a situation and am wondering what are some of the common situations that might lead to resets like this?
Actually, it turns out this had to do with the way I constructed my thread, in which I would create a new socket continuously without discarding the previous one. Stupid right? Well I fixed the code and the ethernet no longer crashes.
A bit of history: We have an application, which was originally written many years ago (1998 is the first date in PVCS but the app is about 5 years older than that as it originally was a DOS program). This application communicates with a piece of hardware via serial. When we got to Windows XP we started receiving reports of the app dying after a short time of running. It seems that the serial comms just 'died' and the app was left in a stuck state. The only way to recover from this situation was to restart the application.
The only information I can find regarding this problem was apparently the Windows Message system would miss that information was received, the buffer would fill and the system would get stuck. This snippet of information was left in a old word document, but there's no evidence to back this up. It also mentions that this is only prevalent at high baud rates (115200+).
The solution was to provide customers with USB->Serial converters along with the hardware.
Today: We are working on a new version of the hardware that will run across a network as well as serial ports. So to allow me to work on the network code, minus the actual hardware we are using a VSCOM NetCom113 device. It also installs a virtual comm port on the users (ie: mine) machine.
Now I have got the network code integrated with the app, it appears that the NetCom device exhibits the same behaviour as a physical commport. This is undesirable as I need the app to run longer than ~30 seconds.
Google turns up zero problems that we experience.
I was wondering:
Has anyone experienced this before? If so what did you do to fix/workaround the problem?
Does anyone have any suggestions as to whether the original author of the document is correct and what I can do to test the theory?
Unfortunately I can't post code as the serial code is tightly couple with the rest of the system, though if you have questions regarding it I can answer questions about it.
Updates:
The code is written using Win32 Comm routines - so I am using CreateFile, ReadFile. There's also judicious calls to GetOverlappedResult.
It's not hanging per se, it's just that the comms stops. You can access the menus, click the buttons, but nothing can interact with the connected hardware. Using realterm you can see that no data is coming in or going out.
I think the reference to the windows message is that the problem is internal to windows. Data has arrived but the kernal has missed it and thus not told the rest of the system about it.
Flow control is not used.
Writing a 'simple' test is difficult due the the fact that the code is tightly coupled and the underlying protocol is quite complex and would require a lot of work.
Are you using DOS-style serial code, or the Win32 CreateFile approach?
If the former, be very suspicious: if at all possible I'd convert to the latter.
If the latter, do you know on what kind of system call it's hanging? Are you in a blocking read call? or an overlapped I/O call? or waiting on an event? (I'm not sure I have enough experience to help, but those are the kinds of questions that come to mind)
You might also check into the queue size, which you can set with the SetupComm function.
I don't buy the "Windows Message system" stuff -- it sounds fishy; you can write good Win32 serial i/o code that never uses Windows messages.
edit: does your Overlapped I/O use events? I seem to remember something about auto-reset events occasionally missing their trigger... check your overlapped I/O calls very carefully to see whether you're handling the possible outcomes properly. Perhaps there's a way to make your code more robust by automatically cancelling the overlapped i/o and restarting another read. (I assume the problem is in the read half, not the write half?)
edit 2: A suggestion: assuming the win32 side has missed a byte or packet, and your devices are in deadlock because they're both expecting each other to respond to something, can you tweak the other side of the serial I/O to regularly send some type of "ping" packet with an incrementing counter? (and log the ping packets on the PC side; that way you can see whether you've missed any)
Are you sure you have your flow control set up correctly? DTR, RTS, etc...
-Adam
i have written apps that use usb / bluetooth serial ports and have never had an issue. with bluetooth i have seen bit rates (sustained) of 800,000 bps for long periods of time. most people don't properly implement the port.
My serial port
Not sure if this is a possibility for you, but if you could re-write the code using C#.NET you'd have access to the SerialPort class there. It might remedy your problem. I know a lot of legacy code based around the Win32 API for hardware I/O ports tended to fail in XP due to timing (had a small bit of experience with MIDI).
In addition, I don't know if you can use the Win32 method of Serial Port access in Vista, so that might shut out future MS OSes from being able to use your code.