Persistence is at which layer? - http

I know that a http request first makes a 3 way handshake to establish connection. Followed by the request and response.
If a handshake is required for future requests then it is called non persistent connection.
The server can choose to keep the connection alive so that a handshake is not required untill a timeout value (persistent). This is called persistent connection. It saves time required by not requiring the 3 way handshake for each request.
My colleague mentions that http supports both persistent and non persistent. My understanding is that - tcp makes the connection. So persistence is controlled by tcp layer. Am I right?

May be not right. HTTP is higher layer than TCP and HTTP 1.0 will send close() when they finish tranportint some data streams. But in HTTP 1.1, the controller will not send close(), instead, it'll send keepalive/hearbeat to the other side for live. It is controlled by the application layer, in other words, by the HTTP itself.

One way HTTP can support a persistent connection is called Server-Sent-Events.
An alternative to HTTP for persistant connections is WebSocket. WebSocket is a computer communications protocol, providing full-duplex communication channels over a single TCP connection. WebSocket enables streams of messages on top of TCP. WebSocket is distinct from HTTP.

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HTTP protocol connectionless and use TCP by default, How does that make sense?

I read that HTTP protocol uses the reliable TCP connections by default
,and one of the HTTP feature is connectionless.
Now I am confused how does it make sense ?
How does it use TCP and the same time it is connectionless and as I know TCP is connection-oriented
HTTP and TCP are different things. TCP is a transport layer protocol, whereas HTTP is an application layer protocol. HTTP uses TCP for data transmissions.
IMO this website has a nice explanation:
HTTP is connectionless: The HTTP client, i.e., a browser initiates an HTTP request and after a request is made, the client waits for the response. The server processes the request and sends a response back after which client disconnect the connection. So client and server knows about each other during current request and response only. Further requests are made on new connection like client and server are new to each other.
However, Wikipedia defines HTTP as stateless:
HTTP is a stateless protocol. A stateless protocol does not require the HTTP server to retain information or status about each user for the duration of multiple requests. However, some web applications implement states or server side sessions using for instance HTTP cookies or hidden variables within web forms.
Based on their explanations, the terms seems to be used interchangeably. However, these are not really true as the in-use HTTP versions allow you to identify the users through cookies etc. and create persistent connections.

Persistent (push-based) communication with HTTP

Consider the following diagram (source). The diagram describes an HTTP Push model with multiple events pushed to the client over a persistent connection.
How does one establish a persistent connection in HTTP?
How could the server push events to the client over this connection? To my knowledge, only the client (e.g. browser) can initiate HTTP requests.
I can see this working with a WebSocket (full-duplex long-lived connections) but to my knowledge, they don't go over HTTP.

Why and how SSE (Server-Sent Events) are unidirectional

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/EventSource
The EventSource interface is web content's interface to server-sent events. An EventSource instance opens a persistent connection to an HTTP server, which sends events in text/event-stream format. The connection remains open until closed by calling EventSource.close().
From what I understand server-sent events require persistent HTTP connection (Connection: keep-alive) so similarly to keeping the connection alive like in case of web sockets.
If the connection is persistent, why server-sent events are unidirectional? Web socket connections are persistent as well.
In this case, what happens if I send a request to my HTTP service and I have persistent connection opened due to EventSource. Will it re-use HTTP connection opened by EventSource or open a new connection?
If it re-uses the connection opened by EventSource how is it considered unidirectional?
Might be trivial, but I had to ask because it is not clear. Because nothing mentions what happens to subsequent HTTP requests when there's existing connection opened by EventSource.
For example, it seems possible to me to implement centralized chat app using SSE:
User 1 sends message to User 2(by sending it to HTTP server). Server sends event to user 2 with a new message, user 2 sends another request to HTTP server with message for User 1, server sends event to user 1.
How is that not considered bi-directional?
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What's the behavioral difference between HTTP Stay-Alive and Websockets?
SSE is unidirectional because when you open a SSE connection, only the server can send data to the client (browser, etc.). The client cannot send any data. SSE is a bit older than WebSockets, hence may be the difference between the unidirectional and bi-directional support between these two technos.
In your use-case, if you open a SSE connection (which is an HTTP connection), only the server will be able to send data. If you wish to send a request to your HTTP service, you will need to open a new "classical" HTTP connection. You will see your browser opening two HTTP connections: 1 for the SSE connection and 1 for the classical HTTP request (short live).
You can implement a chat with SSE. You can have a SSE connection (hence HTTP) to let the user receives the messages from the server. And you can use POST HTTP requests to enable the user to send his/her messages.
Note that most of the browsers can open around 6 HTTP/1.x connections to the same host. So, if you use 1 SSE connection, it will remain potentially 5 HTTP/1.x connections. This is only true with HTTP/1.x. With HTTP 2.x, the connections to the same host are multiplexed: so, in theory, you can send as many HTTP requests at the same time as you wish or you can open as many SSE connections as you wish and thus, by passing the limitation of the 6 connections.
You can have a look at this article (https://streamdata.io/blog/push-sse-vs-websockets/) and this video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDDp7BiSad4) to get an insight about this technology and whether it could fit your needs. They summarize pros & cons of both SSE and WebSockets.

How asp.net websites work in terms of network models?

My understanding regarding network model communication:
Application layer:
1. HTTP(Not Persistent or stateless): For exchanging messages like get, post, put etc. Here connection is made to webserver and disconnected after sending response. So server will not keep track of the previous requests.
2. Websockets(Persistent or statefull): For creating a communication channel that will be open to exchange data. Here we can keep track of the previous requests. Like we can know how many users are currently connected to our server.
Transport layer:
TCP(Persistant and Statefull): Will let the server know to which application to connect using port number. Both HTTP and web sockets will work upon this layer.
Considering working with HTTP and TCP:
I make a HTTP request from browser(application layer):
Connects to web server sends all files requested and also makes a TCP connection with the application(transport layer).
After sending response it's disconnected.
My confusion:
I got totally confused when I heard, read that TCP is Statefull and Persistant connection.
Q1. Now after step three is browser still connected to webserver because of TCP?
Q2. Is the context object we get in server side in c# code is the complete request packet with HTTP info, TCP info, function to invoke or controller to invoke in MVC etc?
Q3. If client and server are still connected with TCP. Then on next HTTP request does it will use the available TCP connection or will create new TCP and HTTP connection? Why can't it use previous TCP to communicate? Or TCP will be destroyed after HTTP? Or what's happening?

Why is HTTP protocol stateless if it can deal with persistent connections?

The HTTP protocol is stateless, but I found this on the Kurose-Ross book:
The default HTTP method is with persistent connections and pipeling.
This means that it can handle multiple requests, so it keeps opened the socket of a client that wants to ask multiple requests.Is that true? If yes, why is HTTP protocol considered stateless?
HTTP persistent connections relate to TCP connection being left open. HTTP operates on top of TCP - so TCP can be connected and/or stateful whereas HTTP would not. TCP is just the transport for HTTP.
If you look at the OSI model, you can see that TCP is on layer 4 (transport), whereas HTTP is on layer 7 (application). HTTP is not tied to TCP and could use other ways of transport too - as a protocol, it is not "inheriting" features from TCP.
(Note also that the persistent connection is not really persistent for a very long time. For Apache 2, it is open only for 5 seconds per default, and "According to RFC 2616 (page 46), a single-user client should not maintain more than 2 connections with any server or proxy".)

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