So I was watching multiple tutorials about how to present data on an actual webpage using Cloud Firestore. The thing is, everyone was using an actual index.html file sitting in Public folder(instead of serving html content within node.js code) and tags which would mean that their program would use client-side JavaScript instead of node.js. But why? for what reason? According to Firebase tutorials and documentation, having an ACTUAL index.html sitting in Public folder is only for making static webpages, thus, if I'm making a complicated and dynamic webpage(which will also present Firestore data within the webpage), I should be using node.js right?
The Firebase SDKs for Cloud Firestore perform local persistence (caching) of doucments fetched from the database. The persistence is enabled by default for Android and iOS, and you can programmatically enable it for web (currently experimental). This local caching allows the client to avoid requesting documents from the server, which is obviously faster and cheaper than going through some API endpoint to request the data each time it's needed.
There is also the fact that the SDKs will push you realtime updates of data as it changes on the server, as long as you have a listener attached to some document or query of interest. You won't be able to duplicate this if you write it all in Cloud Functions. You will spend a tremendous amount of time trying to duplicate and scale this behavior using socket.io or something similar on a backend you control.
You could write the entire app to be driven through API endpoints that you create. There's nothing wrong with that, if it meets your needs. But you'll write more code, you'll sacrifice realtime updates, and it will likely be slower and more expensive than allowing the client SDKs to optimize for you.
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In my Unity project, I'm using simple web requests (POST requests) to store and retrieve information from the Cloud Firestore, and it is all working fine.
The POST requests are made to some Cloud Functions that do all the job in the database.
The thing is I'm using the database with all permission (read and write) granted to everyone.
I don't know how to safely allow this operations. What I mean by this is if I'm an user of the app (and I'm INSIDE the app), then I should be able to read and write from the database, but outside the app nobody should be allowed to do any modification in the database.
How can I secure my database within these constraints? I read about Firebase auth but I didn't understand.
You'll need to learn about Firestore security rules. It's a long and complex topic, and impossible to say for sure exactly what's required for your case. But you can start reading the documentation about it.
My Current Plan:
I'm currently creating an IOS App that will access/change java/python files that are stored in the Google Cloud Storage. Once confirmed the App will talk with App Engine that will have a Compute Engine VM receive files and compile them. Once compiled have the result returned back to the IOS App
Is there any better or easier method to achieve this task? Should I use firebase or Google Cloud Functions? Would it be any help
Currently, I'm lost how to design and have requests sent between many platforms.
It would also depend on what type of data processing you are doing to the files in Cloud Storage. Ideally you would want to avoid as many "hops" between services as possible. You could do everything via Cloud Functions and listen on GCS Triggers. You can think of Cloud Functions as a sudo App Engine Backend to use for quick request handling.
Use Cloud Functions to respond to events from Cloud Storage or Firebase Storage to process files immediately after upload
If you are already using Firebase, it would be better to stay within their ecosystem as much as possible. If you are doing bigger or more intensive data processing you might want to look at different options.
With more information and current pain points, we may be able to offer more insight.
I'm trying to build a relatively simple application that has several different views, requires authentication, collects some user data, stores it in a database, and needs backend logic to manipulate that data and spit it back out to the user in a view.
The stack I've decided on is Vue for the frontend, with Express and Node for server side logic and Firebase for some of their services (namely auth, firestore, storage).
I haven't been able to find any examples of this stack (Vue, Express, Firebase) anywhere (I have however found Vue/Express or Vue/Firebase examples). My question is whether or not Express is obsolete here in that I can use Vue router to do my routing. Is the difference that one does the rendering server-side?
You could use Cloud Functions for Firebase as your backend and then limit your stack to Vue.js and Firebase.
From the doc:
Cloud Functions for Firebase lets you automatically run backend code
in response to events triggered by Firebase features and HTTPS
requests. Your code is stored in Google's cloud and runs in a managed
environment. There's no need to manage and scale your own servers.
For your specific need: "backend logic to manipulate that data and spit it back out to the user in a view." you have several possible approaches:
You manipulate the data with Cloud Functions (in the back end), write the results of this manipulation to the Real Time Database and setup some listeners in your Vue.js frontend (with the on() method) that will refresh your front end upon changes in the database
Use some HTTPS Cloud Functions that you call, from your Vue.js front-end, as REST API endpoints. You can use Axios for example. See the doc here.
One advantage of the first solution is that you can easily, by default, rely on the database security rules, while it would need some more extra work in the second case.
To avoid rewriting Firebase DB logic in various apps (iOS, Android, Web) we earlier used a service/middle layer to hold this logic. In this way the app never interacts with the DB directly.
However, in the new architecture with Firebase and Google Cloud Functions, would it be wise to route all DB calls through Cloud Functions or should this be done only selectively based on use case?
In almost all the examples I’ve seen so far, the app directly interacts with Firebase DB and the Cloud Functions are meant to only listen to certain events and used selectively. They are not meant to be a middle layer.
This approach would however lead to the need to duplicate DB logic in all apps. Can this duplication of code be avoided?
Yes. By moving certain functionality from your application code into Cloud Functions, you will only have to implement that logic once: in JavaScript. This is great for certain logic that you either don't want on the client (too big, too secret, too slow, etc).
But:
Each client will still need code to access the functionality in Cloud Functions. This can be as simple as a write through the Database SDK, but can also get quite involved.
The functionality will only be available if the user has a network connection. Unlike client-side functionality, it won't work when the user is disconnected/offline.
How would you use Firebase's simple login to allow users to upload music files.
As I understand it, it doesn't make sense to even think about storing audio files in Firebase's database which is why I would like to be able to store them on an external PHP server.
So, the question revolves on whether I can use Firebase's simple login system to allow users to authenticate to an external server.
I have seen Using NodeJs with Firebase - Security ... which gives some great insight, but then how would you enable the large file upload to the external server?
The technique from the answer you linked will work for your situation too, you just need to translate it into PHP and the Firebase REST APIs. Additionally, since the REST API isn't real-time you must add some kind of task queue that it can poll.
Your program would flow something like this:
User logs in to Firebase with Simple Login
User write to only a place that they can (based on security rules). The user also writes an entry into a task queue.
Your PHP server connects with a token that allows reads of all of the user's secret places.
Your PHP server polls the firebase every once in awhile to look for new tasks. If there's a new task, it validates the user and allows that user to post data to it.
All that being said, this is going to be pretty complicated. PHP's execution model does not lend itself well to real-time systems, and
I strongly recommend you consider some other options:
You're using a cloud platform, Firebase, for your realtime stuff, so consider a cloud service for your binaries too, like filepicker.io
If you really want to host the files yourself, use something that's more real-time like node.js. It'll save you the effort of constructing that task queue.