apart from GET method,
we can make POST implement the request typically as any other http method, so why we should use other methods rather than POST?
POST='delete some data from this resource'
also we can make the POST idempotence by ignoring the subsequent requests (ignoring that PUT can create a new resource)
Well, actually you could also use only GET and DELETE requests for everything. It's only the question how the backend handles these specific request types.
If you want to follow the rules, then you would usually develop so that you provide conformity to usual standards (PUT for creation, DELETE for deletion) and so on.
Can somehow be compared to response status codes. Of course I could return the response code 200 and 201 for "Unauthorized", as response codes can be defined individually. But that's against every standard and should not be done.
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I know that typically, GET requests pass relevant parameters by appending query strings to the URI. POST requests pass parameters by inserting them into the request body.
I also know that it is considered bad practice to pass GET parameters into the request body, but that is not an explanation as to why this behavior was initially implemented. As far as I can tell, the main difference between GET and POST requests is more or less semantic. That is, I can generally assume GET is safe and POST is not, which helps me understand that I can cache GET results, and allow GET to call multiple times without worrying that I am going to mess something up server-side. This does not explain why there is a different implementation for passing parameters. Would it have been a bad idea to have GET be semantically equivalent to the way that it is used now but use the request body to pass parameters instead of the URI? Similarly, was there a compelling historical reason for the designers of HTTP to divide how GET and POST stored parameters (in such a seemingly arbitrary way)?
I think it might help to re frame this a bit to not look at these as parameters, but take a step back.
Ultimately the purpose of the GET request is to ask a server for the representation of a given URI. The fact that the URI has things that are 'parameters' or 'variable' is kind of irrelevant here.
The idea of the GET request is, give me the thing at this URI. The fact that there are some mechanisms to dynamically build up these URIs is not important.
You can do the exact same thing with POST. Any URI that you can GET, you could send a POST request to. So these URI variables can also exist for POST.
So on a high level, this is what the requests are for:
GET - Return the representation at the given URI
PUT - Replace the representation at the given URI
DELETE - Remove the resource at the given URI
Looking at these operations as something you do at the given URI it starts to make sense that GET doesn't have a request body. If the purpose of the request is simply 'give me the thing at this uri', there's no real reason to also have a body.
Likewise, it doesn't make that much sense for a PUT request to respond with a body. The purpose of PUT is to replace whatever is at the given URI with the request body. The caller only really needs to know if the operation succeeded or not, so a HTTP status code is enough.
For DELETE neither the request or response body really makes sense. All you need to know is there is a URI, and you are calling the DELETE operation, which succeeds or fails.
So what about POST? POST is really a bit of a catch-all that is used for basically 'anything else'. You're not explicitly replacing, removing or retrieving a resource, but rather you are doing 'some arbitrary operation', like doing an RPC call or creating a new resource in a collection.
Unlike GET, PUT, and DELETE, the meaning of POST is much more loose.
POST - Do an arbitrary operation at the given URI.
Data in the URL can be linked to, bookmarked and easily shared.
Data in the request body can be big, and easily include things which are not text (like file attachments).
I have an object:
Account
{
Id,
Name,
CurrentBalance
}
Id is an immutable key, Name is a mutable string, and CurrentBalance is calculated from all of the transactions associated with the account.
I am stuck on the fact that GET \Accounts\{Id} will not be idempotent because changes to a transaction will cause a change in CurrentBalance. Should I remove this field from the object and make a request like
POST \Accounts\{Id}\CurrentBalance
But now I have to make multiple calls to the server to get the CurrentBalance of all objects:
GET \Accounts
POST \Accounts\{Id1}\CurrentBalance
POST \Accounts\{Id2}\CurrentBalance
POST \Accounts\{Id3}\CurrentBalance
....
I guess I am just looking to see if there is already a standard way to handle this that I am missing?
UPDATE
Part 2 if the original object is ok via GET. My only way to update the Account.Name is via a PATCH as I cannot allow an update to CurrentBalance, correct?
NOTE
I realize I could put this on the client to have to get all transactions and calculate it, but I would prefer to do this on the server for multiple reasons
Idempotency does not mean that you must always get the same response back.
Consider the resource /TodaysWeather. It would be pretty useless if it always returned the same value.
Idempotency simply states that if a client makes the same request multiple times instead of just once, the impact on the system (from the client's perspective) will be the same.
I just re-read the HTTP specs and realized that if I want to be truly RESTful I have to make multiple calls because GET has to be safe.
In particular, the convention has been established that the GET and
HEAD methods SHOULD NOT have the significance of taking an action
other than retrieval.
I am not deleting this question because I think it could help others in the future, but if the majority disagree I will delete it
If it's important that you're able to PUT some data, then immediately retrieve the same data via GET, then you could simply treat it as a different resource entirely, e.g.:
# Change an account name
PUT \Accounts\{id}
# Get accounts/names/balances
GET \AccountDetails
# Get balance of an account
GET \AccountDetails\{id}\CurrentBalance
However, there's really no good reason to go through the trouble of doing that. Your PUT is idempotent as long as making the same request multiple times doesn't change the state of the system. Not changing the system's state if some spurious value is submitted is the correct behavior. In fact, if someone does try a PUT including CurrentBalance, you might want to return a 400 (Bad Request) status explaining that CurrentBalance can't be updated.
While the HTTP 1.1 spec seems to allow message bodies on DELETE requests, it seems to indicate that servers should ignore it since there are no defined semantics for it.
4.3 Message Body
A server SHOULD read and forward a message-body on any request; if the
request method does not include defined semantics for an entity-body,
then the message-body SHOULD be ignored when handling the request.
I've already reviewed several related discussions on this topic on SO and beyond, such as:
Is an entity body allowed for an HTTP DELETE request?
Payloads of HTTP Request Methods
HTTP GET with request body
Most discussions seem to concur that providing a message body on a DELETE may be allowed, but is generally not recommended.
Further, I've noticed a trend in various HTTP client libraries where more and more enhancements seem to be getting logged for these libraries to support request bodies on DELETE. Most libraries seem to oblige, although occasionally with a little bit of initial resistance.
My use case calls for the addition of some required metadata on a DELETE (e.g. the "reason" for deletion, along with some other metadata required for deletion). I've considered the following options, none of which seem completely appropriate and inline with HTTP specs and/or REST best practices:
Message Body - The spec indicates that message bodies on DELETE have no semantic value; not fully supported by HTTP clients; not standard practice
Custom HTTP Headers - Requiring custom headers is generally against standard practices; using them is inconsistent with the rest of my API, none of which require custom headers; further, no good HTTP response available to indicate bad custom header values (probably a separate question altogether)
Standard HTTP Headers - No standard headers are appropriate
Query Parameters - Adding query params actually changes the Request-URI being deleted; against standard practices
POST Method - (e.g. POST /resourceToDelete { deletemetadata }) POST is not a semantic option for deleting; POST actually represents the opposite action desired (i.e. POST creates resource subordinates; but I need to delete the resource)
Multiple Methods - Splitting the DELETE request into two operations (e.g. PUT delete metadata, then DELETE) splits an atomic operation into two, potentially leaving an inconsistent state. The delete reason (and other related metadata) are not part of the resource representation itself.
My first preference would probably be to use the message body, second to custom HTTP headers; however, as indicated, there are some downsides to these approaches.
Are there any recommendations or best practices inline with REST/HTTP standards for including such required metadata on DELETE requests? Are there any other alternatives that I haven't considered?
Despite some recommendations not to use the message body for DELETE requests, this approach may be appropriate in certain use cases. This is the approach we ended up using after evaluating the other options mentioned in the question/answers, and after collaborating with consumers of the service.
While the use of the message body is not ideal, none of the other options were perfectly fitting either. The request body DELETE allowed us to easily and clearly add semantics around additional data/metadata that was needed to accompany the DELETE operation.
I'd still be open to other thoughts and discussions, but wanted to close the loop on this question. I appreciate everyone's thoughts and discussions on this topic!
Given the situation you have, I would take one of the following approaches:
Send a PUT or PATCH: I am deducing that the delete operation is virtual, by the nature of needing a delete reason. Therefore, I believe updating the record via a PUT/PATCH operation is a valid approach, even though it is not a DELETE operation per se.
Use the query parameters: The resource uri is not being changed. I actually think this is also a valid approach. The question you linked was talking about not allowing the delete if the query parameter was missing. In your case, I would just have a default reason if the reason is not specified in the query string. The resource will still be resource/:id. You can make it discoverable with Link headers on the resource for each reason (with a rel tag on each to identify the reason).
Use a separate endpoint per reason: Using a url like resource/:id/canceled. This does actually change the Request-URI and is definitely not RESTful. Again, link headers can make this discoverable.
Remember that REST is not law or dogma. Think of it more as guidance. So, when it makes sense to not follow the guidance for your problem domain, don't. Just make sure your API consumers are informed of the variance.
What you seem to want is one of two things, neither of which are a pure DELETE:
You have two operations, a PUT of the delete reason followed by a DELETE of the resource. Once deleted, the contents of the resource are no longer accessible to anyone. The 'reason' cannot contain a hyperlink to the deleted resource. Or,
You are trying to alter a resource from state=active to state=deleted by using the DELETE method. Resources with state=deleted are ignored by your main API but might still be readable to an admin or someone with database access. This is permitted - DELETE doesn't have to erase the backing data for a resource, only to remove the resource exposed at that URI.
Any operation which requires a message body on a DELETE request can be broken down into at it's most general, a POST to do all the necessary tasks with the message body, and a DELETE. I see no reason to break the semantics of HTTP.
I suggest you include the required metadata as part of the URI hierarchy itself. An example (Naive):
If you need to delete entries based on a date range, instead of passing the start date and end date in body or as query parameters, structure the URI such a way that you pass the required information as part of the URI.
e.g.
DELETE /entries/range/01012012/31122012 -- Delete all entries between 01 January 2012 to 31st December 2012
Hope this helps.
I would say that query parameters are part of the resource definition, thus you can use them to define the scope of your operation, then "apply" the operation.
My conclusion is that Query Parameters as you defined it is the best approach.
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I've only recently been getting involved with PHP/AJAX/jQuery and it seems to me that an important part of these technologies is that of POST and GET.
First, what is the difference between POST and GET? Through experimenting, I know that GET appends the returning variables and their values to the URL string
website.example/directory/index.php?name=YourName&bday=YourBday
but POST doesn't.
So, is this the only difference or are there specific rules or conventions for using one or the other?
Second, I've also seen POST and GET outside of PHP: also in AJAX and jQuery. How do POST and GET differ between these 3? Are they the same idea, same functionality, just utilized differently?
GET and POST are two different types of HTTP requests.
According to Wikipedia:
GET requests a representation of the specified resource. Note that GET should not be used for operations that cause side-effects, such as using it for taking actions in web applications. One reason for this is that GET may be used arbitrarily by robots or crawlers, which should not need to consider the side effects that a request should cause.
and
POST submits data to be processed (e.g., from an HTML form) to the identified resource. The data is included in the body of the request. This may result in the creation of a new resource or the updates of existing resources or both.
So essentially GET is used to retrieve remote data, and POST is used to insert/update remote data.
HTTP/1.1 specification (RFC 2616) section 9 Method Definitions contains more information on GET and POST as well as the other HTTP methods, if you are interested.
In addition to explaining the intended uses of each method, the spec also provides at least one practical reason for why GET should only be used to retrieve data:
Authors of services which use the HTTP protocol SHOULD NOT use GET based forms for the submission of sensitive data, because this will cause this data to be encoded in the Request-URI. Many existing servers, proxies, and user agents will log the request URI in some place where it might be visible to third parties. Servers can use POST-based form submission instead
Finally, an important consideration when using GET for AJAX requests is that some browsers - IE in particular - will cache the results of a GET request. So if you, for example, poll using the same GET request you will always get back the same results, even if the data you are querying is being updated server-side. One way to alleviate this problem is to make the URL unique for each request by appending a timestamp.
A POST, unlike a GET, typically has relevant information in the body of the request. (A GET should not have a body, so aside from cookies, the only place to pass info is in the URL.) Besides keeping the URL relatively cleaner, POST also lets you send much more information (as URLs are limited in length, for all practical purposes), and lets you send just about any type of data (file upload forms, for example, can't use GET -- they have to use POST plus a special content type/encoding).
Aside from that, a POST connotes that the request will change something, and shouldn't be redone willy-nilly. That's why you sometimes see your browser asking you if you want to resubmit form data when you hit the "back" button.
GET, on the other hand, should be idempotent -- meaning you could do it a million times and the server will do the same thing (and show basically the same result) each and every time.
Whilst not a description of the differences, below are a couple of things to think about when choosing the correct method.
GET requests can get cached by the browser which can be a problem (or benefit) when using ajax.
GET requests expose parameters to users (POST does as well but they are less visible).
POST can pass much more information to the server and can be of almost any length.
POST and GET are two HTTP request methods. GET is usually intended to retrieve some data, and is expected to be idempotent (repeating the query does not have any side-effects) and can only send limited amounts of parameter data to the server. GET requests are often cached by default by some browsers if you are not careful.
POST is intended for changing the server state. It carries more data, and repeating the query is allowed (and often expected) to have side-effects such as creating two messages instead of one.
If you are working RESTfully, GET should be used for requests where you are only getting data, and POST should be used for requests where you are making something happen.
Some examples:
GET the page showing a particular SO question
POST a comment
Send a POST request by clicking the "Add to cart" button.
With POST you can also do multipart mime encoding which means you can attach files as well. Also if you are using post variables across navigation of pages, the user will get a warning asking if they want to resubmit the post parameter. Typically they look the same in an HTTP request, but you should just stick to POST if you need to "POST" something TO a server and "GET" if you need to GET something FROM a server as that's the way they were intended.
The only "big" difference between POST & GET (when using them with AJAX) is since GET is URL provided, they are limited in ther length (since URL arent infinite in length).
I have REST services which should receive really long queries via GET. Say for example I want to query a service with many geographical coordinates to find out something about all this coordinates.
1) My first thought was to use long URIs and increase the max URI length of the servlet container.
It would look like this:
GET http://some.test/myresource?query={really big JSON object}
But it seems that URIs longer than 2 KB are not reliable due to old proxy servers (is that right?).
2) My workaround is to create a temporary resource via POST first and use the URI of this resource as parameter in the actual GET request. That would look like this:
POST http://some.test/temp
Request Body: {really big JSON object}
201 Created Location: http://some.test/temp/12309871
GET http://some.test/myresource?query=http://some.test/temp/12309871
3) Use body of GET request. I've read the answers to the question whether it is a good idea to use the body of a GET request for the query, and the consensus is: no. Even Roy Fielding says that this is a bad idea.
4) Another approach could be to interpret POST as "create query result resource" and delete this resource after the request. But I consider that to be not RESTful and to be a bad idea.
Is there a better way to handle big queries with GET requests?
Use PUT.
Why? For the following reasons:
Just because the verb PUT 'may update' the resource, doesn't mean it will or must alter underlying state of the resource.
No new resource identifier (url) should be created by the API side of a PUT. Yes, technically a PUT with a client specified identifier is possible, but in this case you're hitting an existing resource.
PUT is like GET in the fact that it should be idempotent, meaning the results of the request will always be the same regardless of how often you call it and it has no side effects.
PUT means you're putting resource data to an existing resource. In terms of a article or post in the document / blog post worlds, it would be like uploading a new revision of some document to an existing resource URL. If you upload the same revision to the same URL, nothing should change in the resource you get back.
In your case, the geo data is some new resource data you're uploading and the result you get back should be the same every time you make the same request.
A more purist method to use the GET verb for the request might be:
Create an endpoint for a query resource type
POST the JSON set of query details to a query resource endpoint and get an identifier for the query resource (say it returns a query id of 123)
Submit to the get request a query identifier http://some.test/myresource?query_id=123
Delete the query resource 123
I see the pure method much more overhead than using PUT with query resource data in the body.
I thought that the whole point in REST was to work on "documents" (or something alike). The URI part of a request is there to identify uniquely the resource to work on. The body part in contrast is there for the "contents" part of the document.
Hence, use the "body" part of the request.
Also note that the semantics of a "GET" request isn't supposed to be used for "PUTTING" or "POSTING" documents (comment in relation to your "query" example above which seems to "create" an object).
In any case, as you have pointed out, the URI part is limited (for good reason I am sure).
If you are concerned with caching, then the use of ETag/Last-Modified fields (in conjunction with "conditional GET" helps for this purpose.
Here is a slight variation on your second option. Create yourself a processor resource called QueryMaker. POST your parameters to it and let it redirect you to a temporary query resource that will return your results.
POST /QueryMaker
Body: Big Json representation of parameters
303: See Other
Location: http://example.org/TemporaryQueries/123213
If you are using a GET request to send large objects, you are not using REST correctly.
GET should be used for retrieving
resources (via some sort of unique
identifier)
POST should be used for
creating resources (with the contents
in the body)
PUT should be used for
updating a resource (with the
contents in the body)
DELETE should be used for deleting a resource
If you follow these guidelines you will never have to have overly long URIs.
Some best practice REST guidelines are here: http://www.xml.com/pub/a/2004/08/11/rest.html
The biggest limitation of URL lengths on the open Web is actually IE, which constraints them to 2083 characters.
Some proxies (e.g., all but the most recent versions of Squid) will limit them to about 4k, although this is moving towards 8k slowly.
Your #2 workaround is a good approach, depending on your use case.
Sending bodies on GETs may be allowed by some implementations, and disallowed by others, so it's a bad idea for interoperability as well as theoretical reasons. Most importantly, how will a cache know what to use as a key?
Can't you just send the big JSON data with the GET request body, instead of creating the temp resource?
Although it's not 100% kosher, i've found it works nicely with firefox and IE and IMO, the querystring is inelegant and usually exposes implementation details that don't belong in the URI. Just make sure to add a cache buster querystring parameter if you need up-to-date data because the server will ignore the data when determining whether it can return a cached response.
See here for a discussion of pros and cons of stuffing data in the GET request body.