I'm sorry if it's a duplicate question, but I haven't found any answers that answer my question.
I use firebaseConfig to initialize firebase in my app. As far as I know, there's no way to secure keys when using only client-side code so anyone may access my firebase config.
I've read about security rules. But what prevents bad guys from siging up in my app, copying my config, and starting local server, logining in and accessing database data?
I thought about authDomain, but it allows using localhost, even if I can prevent from sending requests from localhost, the app needs maintaining so it's required to use localhost from time to time.
So the questions is how to prevent from signin-up, and using firebase key on localhost.
By the way, is it secure enough to use stripe API payments without in my single page app?
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Disclaimer: I am new to mobile app development and have little to no knowledge on authentication systems
Normally, when my mobile app makes https calls to my backend server, I know that I cannot trust that these calls to my server came from my app, as anyone can make https requests to my backend server. Even if I give the app a secret key, it is still possible for a hacker to obtain the key and include it in https requests. Therefore, I will not allow https requests to accomplish whatever it wants on the server; rather, I will limit the request to doing only what a user can normally do with their own data – delete their OWN posts, edit their OWN profile, and so on.
Does Firebase work the same way? I saw this StackOverflow thread regarding OAuth consumer secrets, and how they can be compromised and used to imitate a mobile app.
Is this also the case for Firebase?
Can a malicious user theoretically obtain whatever keys/secrets Firebase gave to my mobile app, and use that to emulate requests from my app to Firebase? For example, could they create new users and cause de-syncing issues with my own backend database?
If so, how can I prevent it?
Thanks.
Does Firebase work the same way?
Firebase works in whatever way you program it. Normally you do not put private keys in software that you distribute to end users. The recommended approach is documented very well - use Firebase Auth ID tokens to indicate who is making the call, and use code on your backend to figure out if they should be able to do the work they are requesting. This is what happens with direct database access from your app, but you have to write security rules to protect data according to your requirements.
If you are passing tokens yourself to your own backend, it is up to you to revoke any refresh tokens that you find to be compromised. You cannot fully stop hackers from compromising a system that stores user tokens on devices that you don't control. All you can do is make it hard for them to do so.
Can a malicious user theoretically obtain whatever keys/secrets Firebase gave to my mobile app
Yes, that's why you don't put secrets in code that you distribute to end users. The Firebase config that you're asked to add to your app is not considered private.
See also:
Is it safe to expose Firebase apiKey to the public?
I think from searching the web this is not technically possible but I want to ask again in case I'm missing something.
I have an app that uses Firebase. Reading and writing is locked down through security rules for authorised users only but there's certain information I want unauthorised users to be able to access (so I don't have to put a login wall in front of them, influencing churn).
What I want to know is, is there any way of locking down this read access that only my app can call the DB? I know I can lock down domains to prevent someone writing localhost scrapers but what's to stop someone cloning and re-skinning an app and pointing it to the same back end? Is it possible to achieve this using your certificates fingerprint?
There is no way to limit access to your database to just your app. That just doesn't match with the cloud-based nature of the Firebase APIs. Anyone that knows the URL of your database can in in principle access it, and security rule are the way to ensure all access is authorized.
Note that security rules are not an all-or-nothing approach: you can require sign-in for some parts of your database, while leaving other parts publicly readable. But you can't make the publicly readable parts only be readable by your own app.
Some previous questions on the same topic:
how to make sure only my own website (clientside code) can talk to Firebase backend? (pretty much my go-to answer for this)
How to allow only my app to access firebase without a login?
Restrict Firebase database access to one Android app
How to allow only my app to access firebase without a login?
Update: since May 2021 you can actually restrict access to just users of your App by implementing Firebase App Check.
I have found a solution that maybe helps you or anyone that have a similar question. I answered it in this question:
Restricting Cloud Firestore to a specific domain
I think from searching the web this is not technically possible but I want to ask again in case I'm missing something.
I have an app that uses Firebase. Reading and writing is locked down through security rules for authorised users only but there's certain information I want unauthorised users to be able to access (so I don't have to put a login wall in front of them, influencing churn).
What I want to know is, is there any way of locking down this read access that only my app can call the DB? I know I can lock down domains to prevent someone writing localhost scrapers but what's to stop someone cloning and re-skinning an app and pointing it to the same back end? Is it possible to achieve this using your certificates fingerprint?
There is no way to limit access to your database to just your app. That just doesn't match with the cloud-based nature of the Firebase APIs. Anyone that knows the URL of your database can in in principle access it, and security rule are the way to ensure all access is authorized.
Note that security rules are not an all-or-nothing approach: you can require sign-in for some parts of your database, while leaving other parts publicly readable. But you can't make the publicly readable parts only be readable by your own app.
Some previous questions on the same topic:
how to make sure only my own website (clientside code) can talk to Firebase backend? (pretty much my go-to answer for this)
How to allow only my app to access firebase without a login?
Restrict Firebase database access to one Android app
How to allow only my app to access firebase without a login?
Update: since May 2021 you can actually restrict access to just users of your App by implementing Firebase App Check.
I have found a solution that maybe helps you or anyone that have a similar question. I answered it in this question:
Restricting Cloud Firestore to a specific domain
I think from searching the web this is not technically possible but I want to ask again in case I'm missing something.
I have an app that uses Firebase. Reading and writing is locked down through security rules for authorised users only but there's certain information I want unauthorised users to be able to access (so I don't have to put a login wall in front of them, influencing churn).
What I want to know is, is there any way of locking down this read access that only my app can call the DB? I know I can lock down domains to prevent someone writing localhost scrapers but what's to stop someone cloning and re-skinning an app and pointing it to the same back end? Is it possible to achieve this using your certificates fingerprint?
There is no way to limit access to your database to just your app. That just doesn't match with the cloud-based nature of the Firebase APIs. Anyone that knows the URL of your database can in in principle access it, and security rule are the way to ensure all access is authorized.
Note that security rules are not an all-or-nothing approach: you can require sign-in for some parts of your database, while leaving other parts publicly readable. But you can't make the publicly readable parts only be readable by your own app.
Some previous questions on the same topic:
how to make sure only my own website (clientside code) can talk to Firebase backend? (pretty much my go-to answer for this)
How to allow only my app to access firebase without a login?
Restrict Firebase database access to one Android app
How to allow only my app to access firebase without a login?
Update: since May 2021 you can actually restrict access to just users of your App by implementing Firebase App Check.
I have found a solution that maybe helps you or anyone that have a similar question. I answered it in this question:
Restricting Cloud Firestore to a specific domain
Hello fellow developers,
I have an app using Firebase realtime as a main database (users info, authentication, chatting), and also using Mlab as a second database for situations that require more complex queries.
I make GET/POST queries to my heroku hosted node server, which then connects to my mlab (through mongoose).
But my question is the following:
How can I secure this secondary database / heroku endpoint?
How can I make sure someone will not spam my heroku endpoint with request?
One way would be through JWT tokens if I understand correctly, but that would require another authentification, on top of my firebase one?
Is there any other way to make sure only someone from my app (developed with Ionic) can send requests to my heroku; and to make sure one single users cannot create "loops" to send thousands of request in a second to my server?
Any feedback would be greatly appreciated, I am really clueless for now.