All,
I have completed the basic GAE "Guestbook" example which uses Google Cloud Endpoints and Google Cloud Messaging. I can successfully add a note to the guestbook and have it appear on all registered devices.
I've also used the super simple Server Sent Event (SSE) mechanism to have a web page initiate an event source and then update itself as events are received. But separate web pages appear to create their own distinct event sources (even if using the same URI to the event source) and thus get their own events at their own times.
The objective here is to create a bit of collaboration such that user actions can come from an android device or a web page and the effects the received action are then pushed to all connected users/devices/web pages.
I have assumed I will need a background module and that both Endpoints and 'normal' web pages / queries would channel the received user action to that background module. I believe I can get that far. Next, I need the background module to trigger a push notification to all interested parties.
I believe I can trigger a Google Could Messaging event to registered Android devices from that background module.
But it isn't clear to me how a background module can be the source of an SSE, or how the background module can best communicate with a foreground module that already is the source of an SSE.
I've looked at the Google Queue API, but I have a feeling I'm making something quite easy much more difficult than it needs to be. If you were not going to 'poll' for changes from a web page... and you wanted to receive notifications from an SSE source when changes were made by other users, possibly using Android devices rather than a typical web page, and the deployed application is running on the Google Application Engine, what would you recommend?
Many thanks,
Randy
You are on the right track, not really sure why you are using the background module but from what i understood you need to:
Your front end module receives an update
You retrieve a list of all devices receiving that update
Use the Queue service to send the update via GCM to every single device
Why use queues? because front end instances have a 1 min time limit per request and you'll need to queue work in order to go beyond that time to serve you (potentially) thousands of users.
Now, If you already have a backend instance (which does not have the 1min limit) you could just iterate over the list and send all messages on one request. I believe you have a 24 hr request limit so you should be OK. But in this scenario you don't have need for the front end module, you can just hit this server straight up.
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I am hoping this is not too off topic for a post here.
I have an asp.net webAPI service, which provides a number of routes to get near realtime data (ie within say 10 seconds), which required the client application to poll for changes.
I am investigating on which technology would be best to add an "opt in" push notification service, which just pushes "thin" payloads to tell the client application it is now time to call the existing REST route for an update. This way, the push payload is small, and does not contain any security sensitive data (it still gets this using the existing REST security infrastructure)
Cloud based messaging
Previously, I have been told that, for a Mobile application, I should use something like Firebase cloud messaging, or some other messaging service, however this does not seem like the right solution for "subscription based notifications" I am talking about here. I can certainly see this would be useful, if the client is on either iOS or Android device, and wanted messages/notifications/alarms (etc), which could also work when the application is not running, but this does not seem like the right thing to use of these notifications of changed data (which may be happening all the time, sometimes every 5 seconds). Also, I do not want to only target these mobile devices, but also, for example either a web or desktop application, which may also use the same REST service
Other technologies
I have seen mention of Web sockets, or, in the case of asp.net, the option to use SignalR (which will wrap the web sockets, with fallback). SignalR looks good, but my worry is the availability of client libraries for non web / Windows applications (eg iOS, Android). I am also looking at Rest Hooks. These look interesting, but I can't quite see what the actual "push mechanism" is; it almost looks like they need to POST to the subscriber using HTTP, which means the subscriber has to also act as a "server endpoint".
Just after any thoughts / best practices on this, or what others have used?
In particular, (the verification or otherwise), that for this use case, using cloud based messaging is not the right thing to use due to the frequency of these push notifications (ie something where my server gets to the application via another 3rd party service which pushes to the device/application)
Thanks in advance for any suggestions!
Signalr is an option
There are some libraries which you can use in iOS and android. I suggest you to read once https://visualstudiomagazine.com/articles/2013/11/01/how-to-use-signalr-in-ios-and-android-apps.aspx (its a bit older, but on the point)
Android Client: See How to use signalr in Android
Some alternatives :
Pusher (https://pusher.com/)
Android Client: https://pusher.com/docs/android_quick_start
iOS Client: https://pusher.com/docs/ios_quick_start
Socket.IO (https://socket.io/)
Details iOS Client: https://socket.io/blog/socket-io-on-ios/
Details Andriod Client: https://github.com/socketio/socket.io-client-java
To discuss:
Why you will only send a thin payload whith signalr? I see no benefit for that.
Why "using cloud based messaging is not the right thing"? I do not understand your arguments but I do not know how your application looks like.
I am about to start working on the back-end for a mobile app (initially iOS/Android, later also website) and I am thinking whether Realm could fulfill all my needs.
The basic idea is that there are two types of users - customers and service-providers. The customers send requests to the server once in a while and are subscribed (real-time) for any event that might occur in relation to this request in the future. Each service-provider is listening for specific requests from all customers and is the one who is going to trigger various events (send data) for each of those requests.
From the Realm docs, it is obvious that the real-time data sync is not going to be a problem. The thing I am concerned about is how to model the scenario (customer/service-provider) in the Realm 'world'. Based on what I read, it is preferred to have one realm per user. Therefore, I suppose the user will register and will be given a realm. Then whenever he makes a request, it is going to be stored in his realm. Now the question is how to model the service-provider. There are going to be various service-providers each responding (triggering various kinds of events up to one hour after request) to different kinds of requests. (Each user can send any request and therefore be served by any service-provider.)
I read a bit about that Realm supports data sharing among different realms which could be a partial solution for this problem, however I was not able to find if this 'sharing' could share only particular requests. (Meaning each service-provider will get only requests intended for him.)
My question is whether this scenario is doable using Realm?
This sounds like a perfect fit for Realm's server-side event-handling. Put simply, Realm offers the ability through our Node SDK to listen for changes across Realms on the server.
So in your example, where each mobile user would have their own Realm, the URL for this would be /~/myRealm in which the tilde represents the Realm user ID. The Node SDK event handling API allows you to register a JS function that will run in response to changes represented by a Regex pattern for Realm URLs. In this case you could use: ^/([0-9a-f]+)/myRealm so that any time any user's myRealm updated, the server could perform some logic.
In this manner, the server via the Node SDK is really a "super-user" or service-provider as you describe. When an event fires, the JS function that runs is provided the Realm that was updated and a list of indexes pertaining to the objects in the Realm that were inserted, deleted, or modified. You can then perform any logic in JS, such as using the changed data to call out to another API or opening the Realm in question or any other and writing changes which will get pushed back out to the respective clients.
The full server-side event handling is part of Realm Professional Edition, but we recently released another way to interact with this called Realm Functions. This provides the ability through the server's dashboard to create the same JS functions that will run in response to changes across Realms. The developer edition support 3 functions so you can try it out immediately!
Problem
Due to the haphazard creation and management of watch requests to certain calendar id's, the resource_ids for these watch notifications have been lost. In order to cancel the requests, the resource_id must be included in the request.
Question(s)
Is there any way to poll Google (using the channel_id or through other means) for the missing resource_id?
Is there a way cancel the push request programmatically through other means?
Is there a way to collectively cancel all active watch requests through the Google developer console?
Context
This is being written in node.js but the question really applies to any platform.
No, unfortunately push notification channels cannot be list or cancelled without the resource ID returned when they were created. Luckily they have a relatively short lifespan, so the problem should go away naturally.
I just have a general question. Can you send a url from a button on the band. I have a home automation system that you can trigger events by sending a RESTful url (endpoint) to. Basically I can put the url in any web browser and trigger the event. It would be great if this could be done through the Band. I don't really need a response from the Url, just to send it.
Does that make sense?
Thanks,
Scott
No, the Band communicates only via Bluetooth to (applications on) its paired device. On Windows (Phone), the application must be running, with a connection to the Band, and subscribed to the Tile button pressed event in order to receive such notifications. This generally rules out scenarios that require ad-hoc input from the Band unless you're willing to use voice commands via Cortana.
But i think its possible by creating custom tile and handling custom tile events. Haven't tried it in my project but can see from sdk documentation.
For android you can implement broadcast receiver and listen to tile events. Check: sdk doc
Chap 9, page 51
In short, yes it is possible.
However, the problem would be that the button would be single use to only send that ONE URL command and it actually wouldn't be done via the Band.
You can create custom layouts for your applications with the Microsoft Band SDK which will allow you to create a button. You'll then need to register to the click event from the Band which then would get fired on the device the app is running on. From there, you'd be able to send the URL but it would be sent from the Windows Phone or Windows PC rather than the Band so you'd need to be connected. The documentation covers how you can do this here: http://developer.microsoftband.com/Content/docs/Microsoft%20Band%20SDK.pdf
A downside to doing this with WinRT is that as soon as the app is closed and the connection to the Band is lost, your button click won't have any action. The best way to get around this is to create the connection to the Band in a background task but unfortunately, you can't keep hold of the connection to the Band for an infinite amount of time and you'd have to live with the possibilities that you may have times where it doesn't work. I have a GitHub sample which shows you how to connect to the Band in a background task for an indefinite amount of time.
The Microsoft Band has really been developed for the Health aspect and collecting data rather than interactions with other apps which it does in some way support.
Suppose I have either an ASP.NET displaying my results, or a Silverlight client. And I'd like to show the current status of my server, or embedded device. (pretend the device reads temperature and humidity stats)
How should I send the status information from my device to the front end? Should I poll the device and save the results to SQL, Azure Table, or the like? (Azure is a technology that fits with this project for other reasons. That's why I mention it)
Or should I create a WCF service that polls the device directly and returns the current status.
What makes more sense?
In either ASP.NET or Silverlight you are going to have to poll from the client (web page or Silverlight app) to the backend to get the current status. In ASP.NET I'd look into doing this via an AJAX poll to a service using Javascipt (look at using Jquery or something similar to make this easier).
In silverlight you will need to have some sort of service configured to return the results and poll it using the Timer control running on a seperate thread.
You can also using a "push" binding within your silverlight app. Basically instead of you manually polling the server, the server will send you a push notification anytime it deems it necessary to let the client know of any change.