I am thinking about how to solve an authentication problem that i have.
I have a MVC-site with an admin area which is going to be used for customer-inputs and its very easy to have formsauthentication to protected the admin area but my problem is that other users could be able to edit other users stuff and thats not what i want =(.
My previous sites only handled authentication for one site and formsauthentication handled all my problems but this site should be able to handle authentication for X users and X customers.
For example user1 logs in to user1 admin area (mysite/customer1) but after log in changes the url to mysite/customer2 and starts editing stuff here.
One solution would be in global.asax and the FormsAuthentication_OnAuthenticate and check the url but there must be better approaches to this right? Maybe i am missing something obvious here?
What if once the user logs in (user1) you save their userId (or some unique identifier) into a claim or session. then just make one page mysite/customer which will read that Id and bring back just that one person's record. so this way the only record they will see is the one associated with their Id and you don't have to make the same pages over and over for other users, so no mysite/customer1, mysite/customer2, mysite/customer3...etc..
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I have an existing Wordpress site. The plan is to rebuild the site using the cakePHP framework. Due to time restrictions, I want to replace individual sections of the Wordpress site one at a time. This will mean that both apps will be running side by side for a certain period of time. I need to control access to the cakePHP app using the authorization provided by Wordpress. I'm not sure the best way to go about doing this. I've seen similar questions asked a lot, but I have not yet found a clear solution.
I'm thinking about two approaches:
Plan A:
Configure Cake to look for Wordpress's authorization cookies.
configure Cake to look at Wordpress's database.
Borrow some of Wordpress's authorization logic to teach Cake's Auth component how to authenticate WP users.
Plan B:
set up an authorization API on my Wordpress site.
set up separate auth component in cake.
ping the WP endpoint when a user hits a protected page in the cake app and then manually log in the user. (This would create a second set of auth cookies)
Do either of these sound like the right approach? Is there a better way to do this?
Helpful references: Article about Cake session handling, Cake Auth component documentation, Cake Auth tutorial, brief overview of WP authorization, a more in depth look at wordpress authorization
UPDATE
We've started working on this, and it seems like it will work, but there is a very tricky aspect involving password hashing that warrants its own question. If you're following this thread, you may want to have a look.
I once had a similar situation: Cross framework authentication zend + codeigniter which was few months ago...
Anyways, this is what I will prefer:
set up an authorization API on my Wordpress site.
set up separate auth component in cake.
ping the WP endpoint when a user hits a protected page in the cake app and then manually log in the user. (This would create a second set of auth cookies)
Here, I would suggest a slight change which is do-able.
Make sure, you have a token system of SSO. As in, when person is logged in on Wordpress, set another cookie which will have a token: Token will be username + password (hashed) + secret key, which will be same between Wordpress and CakePHP. On either site, look up for cookie and manually log the user in or just perform a database look up. Hashing is important for that cookie!
However, if the site is using different domains, you might need to re-strategize:
I had different domains once. At the login or unauthorized page, I would ping the other website and bring up their login box. On the other website if the user is logged in, they get post login page and if request URI has sent a token, we perform normal operation and return the authorized token to this (current) domain.
In simple words:
Site A = WordPress & Site B = CakePHP
Site B hits a page where authorization is required then, ping Site A for a login (as it happens when u do Login-with-Facebook sort), which will request via a Token (private key) and REQUEST_URI which will be part of SSO verification table on Site A, if person is already logged in then, Site A will return (via POST) a token, which further will be decrypted via (private key) of Site B and log the user in. Private key of B and A will be same.
Hope this was understandable.
Questions? :)
Answer to your questions in comment:
Ideally, why we use SSO? We use it because of many constraints. For example: You have a database of say... a million row with more than thousand tables, you need to add a module over ur huge app already... so, instead, you will use another database... SSO will return user information, which can further be replicated. For example, when you click on 'Login with Facebook', it returns requested information, like email address, or user's name or even profile picture. Which can further be added to our database... Keeping different databases is strongly recommended :)
To your 2nd and 3rd question: Should both sites reference the same users table in the database? different databases is recommended unless, you are using the same data. Or say changing the software platform.
Should I copy the site-specific user rows into separate user tables for each app? Yes, that should happen automatically. Once you are registered on a main site, nothing happens, things should happen once you are logged in already and then go to site B... Once logged in, user info can always be requested :) That way, new site will have active users ! 2 birds?
Don't complicate (bother) yourself with how what works but, concentrate on how, what is achievable in short period. SSO - Logged in - Restricted page - Look out for log ins - Either login - If already logged in - fetch user info - If user info exists - login via secondary site OR set the new user info . Done!
We developers love flow charts! Don't we? I just created one:
Further answers:
Does the "Fetch User Info" stage mean that we take the user info from the site which is logged in, and create a new user (row) automatically in the other site?
Ideally, you will ask permission from the user before they 'allow' their info to be used but, it varies how your privacy policies are.
In other words, one site handles all the registration/user-creation and the other site just waits for that user to show up and trigger automatic creation. OR at the moment a user registers on the one site, BOTH databases get a user row inserted?
one site handles all the registration/user-creation and the other site just waits for that user to show up and trigger automatic creation. You can have both. Sign up on your website and also a trigger based automatic creation. Depends on your strategy. OR at the moment a user registers on the one site, BOTH databases get a user row inserted? That would be a horrible practice! It will kill the motive of SSO. Motive of SSO is to create an auth family which can be used by users so that they do not have to register every now and then for different websites. update only one database at a time and other when required :)
Questions? :)
I have done this once. I don't have the snippets and/or any references to anything. But thought it might be helpful.
Configure WP and CakePHP both to use same session, you can do this by session id and session name,
When User registers for your website, register them using both WP and CakePHP,
Choose one framework that will handle login view from the front end. I had chosen CakePHP as I was more proficient with it, once the login is successful locate the same user in other framework's DB and authenticate the user using their authentication system.
Hope this helps !!!
Suggestions:
If you are building a closed system, meaning you have to be signed in to access anything useful in the site, then you can use CAS . I know it's used by mainly universities, but for closed systems it works.
( If you need to handle anonymous users the suggestions below might help)
Keep it simple and, similar to Part A of your plan, have a cookie ( visible by both cake and wordpress ) that simply states if a user is logged in. The cookie should be created/checked by both cake and WP. Cake does not need to look at WP's DB. The cookie can have information on how the users in each system are mapped.
Have a central login screen, this is similar to what CAS does. But please build your own. CAS does not handle anonymous users. I am currently creating a central login screen for work. It's simple. The central login screen will handle all authentication and create the cookie visible to both WP and cake. This would mean that the login link for WP and cake will redirect a user to a common page. The link will need to provide a callback URL so that after the user authenticates successfully, he is redirected back to the original service. You will need to decide on a central DB for user authentication.
The cookie approach has following bonus:
It's a lightweight solution and can be wrapped with an on/off switch. In WP, simply wrap the cookie logic with a wp_options value.
You can use WP's and cake's authentication system. no need to work with API's and/or sessions. No need to couple applications by looking at each other's DB.
You can keep roles and permissions native, meaning WP will work with it's own roles and permissions system and your cake application will work with it's system.
Adding a new "service" to your platform is as simple as "create/check for a cookie" then use the system out-of-the-box auth system to log the user in.
Single Sign On is as simple as creating a cookie. Single Sign Off would be deleting the cookie.
I can definitely go into more detail on each suggestion if you're interested.
I'm trying to figure out how when using the default asp.net forms authentication stuff one can change the roles that a user has dynamically. In our case a user has access to many accounts and there roles can change per account. This doesn't seem like rocket science to me but I can't figure out I would do this. Does anyone have a experience trying to do this or a link that would be helpful?
UPDATE:
Just to clarify. We know at startup that User X has access to account #1 with roles 1,2,3 and account #2 with roles 1,2.
So first off I have to handle this part of the problem. Getting their roles based off their current account. For this I think I'd use a RoleProvider. The problem I'm trying to solve though is once ASP.Net has a User how do I tell it to invalidate that user or refresh that user so it would hit my custom RoleProvider (or what not) again.
Roles.AddUserToRole() should take care of adding the user to a role.
For removing: Roles.RemoveUserFromRole()
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/system.web.security.roles.aspx
Im building an ASP website with user login. Does any one knows what is the best and must secure way to make login page and make pages restricted access? I know some ways and used them for some website but sometimes they were not that secure. There is couple access level for this website. Admin, User, Sales Team, and couple more. Thanks.
you can use session variables to store user level and then on asp code define what user can or can not see.
Or in database, I assume, you have field where level of access is defined as well.
Basically make your security level part of SQL query and show only data user should be able to see.
Basically you should have level of access in database, login page verify credentials and then store user level in session variable.
On any given page, while header loads, ASP retrives session variable and compare it to database.
If user have clearance to see that data he will if not-- display message that he is not authorized or redirect somewhere else where he can be.
Add an include file at the top of your ASP pages which is executed before any of the page's code. This way you can write your security code once, and apply it to all of your pages.
Assuming you are using IIS as your web server, you can let it handle your website security by using the different available authentication methods.
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/WindowsServer2003/Library/IIS/9b619620-4f88-488b-8243-e6bc7caf61ad.mspx?mfr=true
http://www.authenticationtutorial.com/tutorial/
Perhaps the best authentication method for you would be Windows Integrated Authentication since it allows you to create groups (or maybe use the existing ones) to give access to certain directories or pages.
My bank's website has 2 login pages for online banking. On the first page, I enter my username. If I don't enter a valid username, I get an error message, and do not get to the 2nd page. The 2nd page displays a picture based on my user name, and has me enter my password. If I manually type a URL to a page inside the site after entering my username but before entering my password, I am redirected back to the first login page.
Is there a good way to implement this in ASP.NET with Forms Authentication? I only get 1 loginUrl in my web.config.
I am fairly certain my bank uses Java.
I do not find this a good idea, because this way any attacker know if the user name is the correct, then its need to know the password.
Second reason is that is more complicate and you need to be sure that you do not forget something on the way to login.
Third reason is that is not the common way to login, so people did not have use to it.
If you like to make the same, you need 2 pages, in the first you ask the user name, then you search on your local database if this is a valid user, then you keep this user name on a variable that you send on the second page that is the actual login. On the second page you have a common asp.net login module, but you have hide the user name, and at the same time you have set it with the value from the previous page. And then the rest is up to you.
Hey I know the bank on this one. Well provided it's the same bank there is another page that the user has to visit if they are on a computer thats never accessed the login before. Once the enter the user name they visit a question answer page where the question is a random one they picked when they first signed up or at least when they thought up this cockeyed login page. Then they visit the password page.
You can implement this yourself if you are using the built in AspNetSqlMembershipProvider provider you can customize the built in login control and override the OnLoggingIn method. You can then do what ever checks you need on that login and move it to another page. On the next page you can override other methods the same way like: OnAuthenticate, and OnLoggedIn while still using the built in control (but customized) if needed. Then you can set the login page in your web.config to your first login page. You can see MSDN for other methods as well.
Now as already pointed out this is not ideal because it's not typical and most users will not understand what is going on or think it's flaky (just like i do about the bank). Not to mention you will need to do additional checks similar to how that bank is doing it to make sure everything is legit coming from the client. So in the end I wouldnt recomend it, it's to much hassle for the end user mainly.
I have managed to get all the authentication parts working, however i am confused about setting up registration.
By registration i mean that if the OpenID is not attached to an existing account, then a new account must be created.
Should i simply have it return to a registration page (with from fields for registration) and redirect to a different page if the user is registered?
Is there a way to set up a clean and simple registration flow without signing the user in first (formsauthentication.redirectfromloginpage) then checking if they are new on every page?
Sorry if this is worded badly, like most other things i ask it is difficult to explain!
Thanks
Ideally, no registration is required at all beyond simply an OpenID. Does your site require to know more than a user identifier to provide any functionality at all?
If your site can offer any services to users (even just informational) without asking for more than their identifier, which OpenID supplies, then don't have a registration page at all. This is by far the best for the users and will lower the barrier of entry to new users to your site. Then, when the user accesses a page that offers something that requires the user to give up more information about themselves, stick them with a registration page at that time.
If you must stick up a registration page for all new users, I suggest you do a check every time someone logs in with their OpenID. If you recognize the OpenID Claimed Identifier upon successful login, you just let them through... otherwise you create a database entry for them and redirect them to the registration form.
You can optimize the experience by using OpenID extensions such as Simple Registration or Attribute Exchange so that the user might get a pre-filled out registration form courtesy of the OpenID Provider, further streamlining the registration process.