This is my first post/question so please let me know if/how I can improve it. I found similar questions but nothing quite covered this.
When you store to InProc session you're just storing a reference to the data. So, if I have a public property foo, and I store it in Session("foo") = foo, then I haven't really taken up any additional memory (aside from the 32/64 bits used by the pointer)?
In my case, we are currently reloading foo on every page of our website, so if I were to instead store it in session, then it should be taking the same about of space, but not needing to reload on every page. I'm seeing a lot of people say not to store large objects in session, but if that large object already exists, what difference does it make to have a pointer to it? Of course I would remove the object from session the moment it was no longer needed.
The data we are trying to store is an object specific to the user's current work, but not user data. As an analogy, say the user was a car dealer, and he is looking at all the data for a particular customer. We have multiple pages for this customer, and we want to keep all the customer info loaded on each page, All the customer data is stored in a single xml data column in a SQL table, which we parse on every page.
We have tried binary serialization instead of parsing xml, so we could store with session in state server mode, but we found the performance to actually be worse.
We are running on a single web server.
First off, no. When you store something in the session state all the data required to store that object is consumed by the website process(s). Just because .NET treats variables like references doesn't mean it actually uses less memory than a no-GC language. It just means that copying that variable around is done efficiently without using reference operators or pointers.
Your question is a bit vague, but you have a few options for persisting data:
1) Send the data to the client as JSON and store it on the browser if it should be per-user and is needed more on the client side than the server side. You can then send pieces of the data with different requests if you need to (put it in hidden fields if you have to use ASPX web forms).
2) Store it in the session state if it is a small bit of per user data.
3) Store it in the ASP.NET cache if it is large and common to all users, see here (https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/6hbbsfk6.aspx).
4) If it is large and user-specific that is used primarily on the server then you have more of a performance problem. You should see if you can break out any user specific stuff from static stuff. If you do that and its still large then a database may not be a bad solution. If you are already using DB calls in your application then looking up this data on every request won't cause too much overhead and you won't have to regenerate it from scratch (You should only do this if the data takes a considerable time to generate as a DB call could be slower than just regenerating the data itself). I recommend writing some sort of middleware (HttpModule or OwinMiddleware) that uses whatever user Identity you use for auth to look up the data and then set it on the HttpContext.Current.Items collection. This way the data is usable for the entire request and you can add logic in the middleware to figure out when to set it.
I would think that having a large chunk of user-specific data would be a red flag as user data should just be a list of what the user can/can't do and what their preferences are.
If this is static data then its super simple. The application cache is what you want. The only complications would be if you have multiple servers that need synced data.
We have a very large HTML form (> 100 fields) that updates a SQL Server database with user-entered data. It will take the user a long time to fill out the form, but every piece of information they submit is very valuable to the business process. Even if the user gives up on the form, we want to retain everything they have entered.
We plan to attach an onblur event to each field and use jQuery/AJAX to post each piece of data back to the application server immediately. That part is pretty straightforward. The question we have is when and how to best save this application-level information to the database. Again, our priority is data retention as opposed to performance but we also want to do this as efficiently as possible.
Options as I see it are:
Have the web service immediately post each piece of data to the database server.
Store the information in a custom class on the application server, then periodically call an update method to post new data to the database.
Store the information in view or session state, then run a routine to post this information to the database server.
Something else that we haven't thought of.
Option 1 seems the most obviously failsafe, but also the most resource intensive. Option 2 seems the most elegant, but can we be absolutely certain that the custom class instance can't be destroyed without first running its update method?
Thanks for your help!
IMHO, I'd really cut up the form into sections (if possible). Since this is ASP.Net, if you are using Web Forms then look into using wizards (cut up the form into logical Steps)
You can do same without Form Wizard, but still cut up the process into logical steps, client-side. You can probably do this in pure JavaScript, but it would likely be easier if you used a framework (jQuery, Knockout, etc.) - the concept remains the same, cut up the form entry process into sections (aka 'Steps') - e.g. using display toggles, divs for each "step", etc.
"retain everything even if abandoned later": assumed that the steps are "hierarchical" where the "most critical" inputs are at the beginning. This makes the "steps" approach even more important - this is a "logical group" (of inputs you really want) so if you do the Step approach, then you can save this data (of this "step") to DB in whatever fashion you deem appropriate (e.g. Ajax, or ASP.Net Post/postback).
Hth...
I would package everything up in some xml or dataset (.getxml) and pass the xml to a stored procedure....
How to pass XML from C# to a stored procedure in SQL Server 2008?
And maybe put the call on a background thread.
http://code.msdn.microsoft.com/CSASPNETBackgroundWorker-dda8d7b6
The xml will be faster than calling the values row by row (RBAR).
You can save just the xml, or shred the xml into a relational table(s).
This is a common case for a developer. You want to add a feature for every content types of your website that need to store data. It is a kind of metadata, not configuration data.
I see two solutions:
zope.annotation
setattr: add attribute to the persistent object
I don't really know why but from Plone2.5 it was nice to use zope.annotation and now it seems to not be the prefered way to store additionnal data. For example plone.uuid use setattr to store the unique id.
Either one, depending on how often your data changes and how big it is. It's all about how the ZODB stores this information.
Storing data directly on the object using setattr means that data is stored in the persistent record for that object. If that's a big object that means there is a big transaction going to take place for that write.
Storing data in a zope.annotations annotation means you get a separate persistent record for each annotation entry, so any changes to your data will result in a smaller transaction. But if you want to access this data often, that extra persistent record will need to be loaded, on top of all the other persistent records. It'll take a slot in your ZODB cache, your ZEO server or RelStorage server will need to serve it, etc.
plone.uuid uses setattr because it is generally generated only once for a given object, usually at a time it is being created already. It is also a piece of data that is accessed often and quite small. So, by putting it directly on the object itself it'll be loaded as soon as you load that object, no extra trips to the ZODB required, and it'll only be changed once in it's lifetime.
Note: the above presumes that the annotations are stored with the AttributeAnnotations adapter, which is the most common method and the default for Plone content.
I am developing a website for a client (ASP.NET, T-SQL). It is a data-entry website allowing many of their users to login and manipulate records in the same database.
There are instructions (basically a list of string) throughout the form, telling the users what to do for each section; these instructions are themselves present in the database.
On each login, I store these instructions in the Session[] object per authenticated user. The instructions are identical for everyone.
I've looked at a solution which suggested storing a common session identifier in the database and then querying it to re-use that particular session but this seems very hacky. What is a best-practices solution to accomplish this? Is there a 'common' object available to all users?
Firstly, does it matter at this point? Yes, it's bad practice and inefficent, but if you're storing 20Kb of strings in memory and have a maximum of 100 users, that's 2,000Kb of data. Hardly a lot of memory "wasted". Even at 200Kb of strings, that's 20,000Kb of data. Again, not a lot. Is it worth your time, and the client waiting for you to solve it, right now?
If you decide it is then you could:
Store the strings in the Application object or a static class so that they're retrieved once and used many times.
Retrieve the strings on every page view. This may not be as performance damaging as it seems.
Use something like the Cache class in System.Web.Caching.
Make use of Output Caching.
Make use of Windows Server AppFabric "Velocity" memory cache.
Sounds to me like you're looking for the Application Cache. Like the Session, it is an in-memory cache of data. Unlike the session, it is shared among all users; each user doesn't get their own individual copy of the data. Also, when you add data elements to the cache, you can specify criteria which will automatically invalidate that data, and cause it to be reloaded/refreshed (useful when your seldom-changing data actually does change :).
Here's some articles which should give you everything you need to know about using the Application cache (and some other caching options within ASP.NET as well):
ASP.NET Caching Overview
Using the ASP.NET Application Cache to Make Your Applications Scream
Caching Data at Application Startup
.NET Data Caching
I would suggest using the application-level Cache object. It is available everywhere as part of HttpContext. You can populate it on App_Start.
You can put any kind of object into Cache, though obviously, the smaller the better.
Here are some examples of how to populate it using C#:
1) Add items to the cache as you would add items to a dictionary by specifying the item's key & value.
Example: add the current Value property of a text box to the cache.
Cache["txt1"] = txtName.value;
or
Cache["result"] = dataset;
2) The Insert method is overloaded, allowing you to define values for the parameters of the version you're using.
Example: add only an item key & value:
Cache.Insert("MyData1", connectionString);
3) The Add method has the same signature as the Insert method, but it returns an object representing the item you added.
Cache.Add("MyData1", connectionString);
To retrieve the from cache:
stringName = Cache["MyData"];
If the cached data is not a string, you may need to cast it to the proper data type.
result = (DataSet)Cache["result"];
One of the benefits of using the Cache object as opposed to the Application object is that the CLR will dump contents of Cache if the system is in danger of running out of memory.
For the sake of argument assume that I have a webform that allows a user to edit order details. User can perform the following functions:
Change shipping/payment details (all simple text/dropdowns)
Add/Remove/Edit products in the order - this is done with a grid
Add/Remove attachments
Products and attachments are stored in separate DB tables with foreign key to the order.
Entity Framework (4.0) is used as ORM.
I want to allow the users to make whatever changes they want to the order and only when they hit 'Save' do I want to commit the changes to the database. This is not a problem with textboxes/checkboxes etc. as I can just rely on ViewState to get the required information. However the grid is presenting a much larger problem for me as I can't figure out a nice and easy way to persist the changes the user made without committing the changes to the database. Storing the Order object tree in Session/ViewState is not really an option I'd like to go with as the objects could get very large.
So the question is - how can I go about preserving the changes the user made until ready to 'Save'.
Quick note - I have searched SO to try to find a solution, however all I found were suggestions to use Session and/or ViewState - both of which I would rather not use due to potential size of my object trees
If you have control over the schema of the database and the other applications that utilize order data, you could add a flag or status column to the orders table that differentiates between temporary and finalized orders. Then, you can simply store your intermediate changes to the database. There are other benefits as well; for example, a user that had a browser crash could return to the application and be able to resume the order process.
I think sticking to the database for storing data is the only reliable way to persist data, even temporary data. Using session state, control state, cookies, temporary files, etc., can introduce a lot of things that can go wrong, especially if your application resides in a web farm.
If using the Session is not your preferred solution, which is probably wise, the best possible solution would be to create your own temporary database tables (or as others have mentioned, add a temporary flag to your existing database tables) and persist the data there, storing a single identifier in the Session (or in a cookie) for later retrieval.
First, you may want to segregate your specific state management implementation into it's own class so that you don't have to replicate it throughout your systems.
Second, you may want to consider a hybrid approach - use session state (or cache) for a short time to avoid unnecessary trips to a DB or other external store. After some amount of inactivity, write the cached state out to disk or DB. The simplest way to do this, is to serialize your objects to text (using either serialization or a library like proto-buffers). This helps allow you to avoid creating redundant or duplicate data structure to capture the in-progress data relationally. If you don't need to query the content of this data - it's a reasonable approach.
As an aside, in the database world, the problem you describe is called a long running transaction. You essentially want to avoid making changes to the data until you reach a user-defined commit point. There are techniques you can use in the database layer, like hypothetical views and instead-of triggers to encapsulate the behavior that you aren't actually committing the change. The data is in the DB (in the real tables), but is only visible to the user operating on it. This is probably a more complicated implementation than you may be willing to undertake, and requires intrusive changes to your persistence layer and data model - but allows the application to be ignorant of the issue.
Have you considered storing the information in a JavaScript object and then sending that information to your server once the user hits save?
Use domain events to capture the users actions and then replay those actions over the snapshot of the order model ( effectively the current state of the order before the user started changing it).
Store each change as a series of events e.g. UserChangedShippingAddress, UserAlteredLineItem, UserDeletedLineItem, UserAddedLineItem.
These events can be saved after each postback and only need a link to the related order. Rebuilding the current state of the order is then as simple as replaying the events over the currently stored order objects.
When the user clicks save, you can replay the events and persist the updated order model to the database.
You are using the database - no session or viewstate is required therefore you can significantly reduce page-weight and server memory load at the expense of some page performance ( if you choose to rebuild the model on each postback ).
Maintenance is incredibly simple as due to the ease with which you can implement domain object, automated testing is easily used to ensure the system behaves as you expect it to (while also documenting your intentions for other developers).
Because you are leveraging the database, the solution scales well across multiple web servers.
Using this approach does not require any alterations to your existing domain model, therefore the impact on existing code is minimal. Biggest downside is getting your head around the concept of domain events and how they are used and abused =)
This is effectively the same approach as described by Freddy Rios, with a little more detail about how and some nice keyword for you to search with =)
http://jasondentler.com/blog/2009/11/simple-domain-events/ and http://www.udidahan.com/2009/06/14/domain-events-salvation/ are some good background reading about domain events. You may also want to read up on event sourcing as this is essentially what you would be doing ( snapshot object, record events, replay events, snapshot object again).
how about serializing your Domain object (contents of your grid/shopping cart) to JSON and storing it in a hidden variable ? Scottgu has a nice article on how to serialize objects to JSON. Scalable across a server farm and guess it would not add much payload to your page. May be you can write your own JSON serializer to do a "compact serialization" (you would not need product name,product ID, SKU id, etc, may be you can just "serialize" productID and quantity)
Have you considered using a User Profile? .Net comes with SqlProfileProvider right out of the box. This would allow you to, for each user, grab their profile and save the temporary data as a variable off in the profile. Unfortunately, I think this does require your "Order" to be serializable, but I believe all of the options except Session thus far would require the same.
The advantage of this is it would persist through crashes, sessions, server down time, etc and it's fairly easy to set up. Here's a site that runs through an example. Once you set it up, you may also find it useful for storing other user information such as preferences, favorites, watched items, etc.
You should be able to create a temp file and serialize the object to that, then save only the temp file name to the viewstate. Once they successfully save the record back to the database then you could remove the temp file.
Single server: serialize to the filesystem. This also allows you to let the user resume later.
Multiple server: serialize it but store the serialized value in the db.
This is something that's for that specific user, so when you persist it to the db you don't really need all the relational stuff for it.
Alternatively, if the set of data is v. large and the amount of changes is usually small, you can store the history of changes done by the user instead. With this you can also show the change history + support undo.
2 approaches - create a complex AJAX application that stores everything on the client and only submits the entire package of changes to the server. I did this once a few years ago with moderate success. The applicaiton is not something I would want to maintain though. You have a hard time syncing your client code with your server code and passing fields that are added/deleted/changed is nightmarish.
2nd approach is to store changes in the data base in a temp table or "pending" mode. Advantage is your code is more maintainable. Disadvantage is you have to have a way to clean up abandonded changes due to session timeout, power failures, other crashes. I would take this approach for any new development. You can have separate tables for "pending" and "committed" changes that opens up a whole new level of features you can add. What if? What changed? etc.
I would go for viewstate, regardless of what you've said before. If you only store the stuff you need, like { id: XX, numberOfProducts: 3 }, and ditch every item that is not selected by the user at this point; the viewstate size will hardly be an issue as long as you aren't storing the whole object tree.
When storing attachments, put them in a temporary storing location, and reference the filename in your viewstate. You can have a scheduled task that cleans the temp folder for every file that was last saved over 1 day ago or something.
This is basically the approach we use for storing information when users are adding floorplan information and attachments in our backend.
Are the end-users internal or external clients? If your clients are internal users, it may be worthwhile to look at an alternate set of technologies. Instead of webforms, consider using a platform like Silverlight and implementing a rich GUI there.
You could then store complex business objects within the applet, provide persistant "in progress" edit tracking across multiple sessions via offline storage and easily integrate with back-end services that providing saving / processing of the finalised order. All whilst maintaining access via the web (albeit closing out most *nix clients).
Alternatives include Adobe Flex or AJAX, depending on resources and needs.
How large do you consider large? If you are talking sessions-state (so it doesn't go back/fore to the actual user, like view-state) then state is often a pretty good option. Everything except the in-process state provider uses serialization, but you can influence how it is serialized. For example, I would tend to create a local model that represents just the state I care about (plus any id/rowversion information) for that operation (rather than the full domain entities, which may have extra overhead).
To reduce the serialization overhead further, I would consider using something like protobuf-net; this can be used as the implementation for ISerializable, allowing very light-weight serialized objects (generally much smaller than BinaryFormatter, XmlSerializer, etc), that are cheap to reconstruct at page requests.
When the page is finally saved, I would update my domain entities from the local model and submit the changes.
For info, to use a protobuf-net attributed object with the state serializers (typically BinaryFormatter), you can use:
// a simple, sessions-state friendly light-weight UI model object
[ProtoContract]
public class MyType {
[ProtoMember(1)]
public int Id {get;set;}
[ProtoMember(2)]
public string Name {get;set;}
[ProtoMember(3)]
public double Value {get;set;}
// etc
void ISerializable.GetObjectData(
SerializationInfo info,StreamingContext context)
{
Serializer.Serialize(info, this);
}
public MyType() {} // default constructor
protected MyType(SerializationInfo info, StreamingContext context)
{
Serializer.Merge(info, this);
}
}