I´ve finally continued work on a hobby-project of mine, after months. I had some computer problems at the beginning of the year, had to do a new Windows install, lost the DB, but could retrieve the scripts. As far as I know, everything is exactly the same as before, except for the absolute urls. I´m working purely on localhost. I´m sure everything was working fine in all major browsers before I stopped working on it, unless my memory fails me. Trying to get it to work, I simplified the code / filename:
#font-face
{
font-family: "cabin" ;
src: url("http://localhost/hrhr/fonts/cabin.ttf");
}
*
{
margin: 0px;
padding: 0px;
border: 0px;
font-family: "cabin";
}
Some remarks:
As said, it does not work in Chrome (33), nor does it work in Opera (20).
It does work in Internet Explorer (11). It already worked without simplifying the code and file name.
As said, I´m pretty sure everything was working fine a few months ago, and nothing has changed apart from absolute urls, and the browser versions.
As suggested by an anwser from a similar question, I´ve tried adding the format, this didn´t help.
I´ve tried variations on quotes.
It generally doesn´t show up in Chrome developer tools under resources. Strangely sometimes it does (after trying variations on the code), and when that happens, it displays the name right, but the example font is wrong (presumably Times New Roman).
I´ve tried copying the font file in other folders and using relative urls.
It displays fine if I remove the #font-face rule, install the font, and just use the local reference, and it also works if I use a Google webfont reference.
I think I´m grossly overlooking something, but Googling didn´t help me yet, and I find it strange IE has no problems whatsoever with my code. Thanks in advance.
Edit:
The font can be found here:
http://www.impallari.com/cabin
Edit 2:
Thanks to Dima´s anwser, I´ve solved the problem, but I´m no closer to understanding it.
I used the fonts and script the site provided me, like I said, that worked, then step by step, I removed elements so it resembled the original situation more and more, until it stopped working again. So basically, I can get it to work with my script and the "converted" ttf file, so the problem seems to be inherent to the original ttf file itself. The script, file paths or cross browser compatibility aren´t the problem. Once converted, Chrome had no issues with it. But I have no idea what the technical difference is.
Tomorrow I´ll see if I can find a font viewer to see if I can find the difference. I also may mail the creator of the font (asking if he´s aware of problems with it), and I´d like to know if other people have issues with the font "as is", so without converting it. Unless someone gives me a technical explanation, I´ll accept Dima´s anwser and will just learn to "convert" the font.
try using it like this:
#font-face {
font-family: 'Cabin';
src: url("/fonts/cabin.eot");
src: url("/fonts/cabin.eot?#iefix") format("embedded-opentype"), url("/portals/0/fonts/cabin.woff") format("woff"), url("/fonts/cabin.ttf") format("truetype"), url("/fonts/cabin.svg#cabin") format("svg");
font-weight: normal;
font-style: normal;
}
this will make sure that all browsers are covered... your best bet is to upload .ttf font to web font generator like this one or this one, it will then generate the web font in different formats and you'll be able to download it... it will also include the CSS for it which will be similar to the one I showed above
EDIT: to answer your question about why that is, there is no right or wrong answer, that's just the way it is. Different browsers support different font formats. You can read about some of it here
You can even use #import url('fonts/cabin.ttf');
And to use it, open your TTF File, and see the name of the font, if it says Cabin, then, font-family: 'Cabin';
Related
Recently had a customer send in a ticket complaining that their font has changed (within the week or so). The font on the site has not changed in probably a decade. What I suspect is that perhaps a recent windows up that times in line with the change is effecting the font he sees, or, more likely, a setting changed on his end.
the font we use
font-family: "Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif
It is my understanding that Helvetica Neue will likely get replaced by something else on windows since, just from googling, I find that font is not included in windows.
My question is, is there any way I can help debug this on his end to figure out exactly what is going on? It does make the site difficult to read for this user and I would like to fix it, and also know for sure what I am talking about. I usually try very hard not to just reply with, "looks good on my machine". Inspecting it shows the same font family as what I posted above.
None of the font options in that css appear to be what is showing.
The one distinguishing trait I can see in the font is the letters de overlap or touch.
This is for web content, the browsers mentioned where most recent Chrome, which I also tested on (verified exact same version numbers) and did not have the issue, and Edge which I do not have.
If you can't access their computer, it's going to be hard to pinpoint the exact cause. Windows font substitution is the normal culprit in this situation:
As stated here:
https://office-watch.com/2021/windows-substituting-arial-font-for-helvetica/
"Windows is setup to use Arial whenever it sees a reference to ‘Helvetica’. This happens at the Windows level and doesn’t just apply to Microsoft Office. Most web browsers get the same thing – web pages that ask for ‘Helvetica’ to display in web page will get the Arial font instead. It drives web designers crazy, especially since CSS has a way to choose from a family of preferred fonts.
Way down in the bowels of the Windows Registry is HCLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\NTCurrentVersion\FontSubstitutes which lists the substitutions."
Additionally, if you run a comparison of arial vs helvetica neue...using the word video you mentioned, you get this:
Notice the difference in kerning (separation between letters/characters) between characters 'd' and 'e'. Arial appears 'clumped' when compared to Helvetica Neue.
I have no reputable source to provide, but this exact situation has happened to me before. It was caused by me installing a faulty font of a similar name.
It was hell to read most websites and I had to get a chrome extension to change everything to Arial to be readable. Ask them if they're having this problem on other websites as well then tell them to delete the "Helvetica Neue" font file on their computer (Mine was named Helvatica Neue56878 if it helps). This solved the problem for me.
How to debug: Check whether the specific computer have the Helvetica font installed. You can do this by going to the Fonts settings of windows. To open Font Settings just open windows search and type Font:
Font Settings will show you Available Fonts that are installed in your computer. Type Helvetica in the search bar and see if Helvetica font is installed:
If it's not, you can go and download and install the font on that computer and the problem would be solved.
CSS solution: To avoid this problem from happening in the future, you can include the font's .ttf file in your project and use #font-face to set it as a font on your project.
#font-face {
font-family: "digital-7";
font-style: normal;
src: url("~/assets/fonts/digital-7.ttf");
}
You can use it like so:
.container{
font-family: "digital-7";
font-size: 4em;
color: black;
}
I’m loading a font using #font-face on my Website. Everything is working well on Windows but apparently not so on Macs. On Macs the font renders super blurry.
I don’t have access to a Mac myself, but I’ve got several colleagues to check for me and send me a screenshot. I’m attaching screenshots from both operating systems below.
This is the code I’m using to load the font:
#font-face {
font-family: HelveticaNeue;
src: url('//wasawards.com/wp-content/themes/wasawards/fonts/HelveticaNeue-BlackCond.ttf'),
}
Any ideas what might be happening or what I'm doing wrong?
The articles below tell why and how to resolve the issue:
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/1347149?start=0&tstart=0
http://www.creativebloq.com/computer-arts/helvetica-wrong-choice-mac-os-81412755
You may need to adjust your font-smoothing settings for certain fonts, or it could be your font is not terribly well constructed and Macs aren't handling that as you would like.
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/font-smooth
I'm going mad with an issue and I wonder if anyone can help. I'm currently using http://font-combinator.com to see what different style of fonts look like together. This website simply loads fonts in from Google Fonts and displays them onscreen.
Now I choose a font, think it looks ok, and head over to Google and download it. I then paste that font into my local font directory so I can see what it looks like locally, and add it's name in my css like so:
font: 100%/1.6 "Font name here";
color: #bbb;
font-weight: 400; (for example)
Problem is when I look at it in the same browser as I did the Font Combinator, it looks rougher and more jagged. No settings have been changed. The font on both sites is 16px. For reference I am using Windows XP with cleartype turned off (I don't like it).
Now if I link to Google Fonts directly through my website, then it displays the same as on the Font Combinator. I don't understand how installing the same font that Google uses produces a different result? Ideally I would like to host the font on my website myself, but can't see a way around this? Am I doing something wrong, or is there something I've missed? Thanks!
For reference I am using the following reset:
html,body,etc.... {
margin: 0;
padding: 0;
border: 0;
outline: 0;
list-style-type: none;
font-size: 100%;
}
Edit: #Fontface code that I've used, that does seem to look the same!
#font-face {
font-family: 'Molengo';
src: url('./fonts/Molengo-Regular.ttf')
format('truetype');
}
(just picked this font as an example)
I had same problem and it's a mess and hard to solve. The main problem is that the font you've downloaded is not actually the "same" that google webfonts provides.
The font family is the same, but Google can provide it in different formats. The font that you've installed on your system is probably a .ttf file, that's a truetype font and Windows can use it. But, if you look the css that Google serves you when you includes a font, it's something like this:
For this:
http://fonts.googleapis.com/css?family=Open+Sans
you get this:
#font-face {
font-family: 'Open Sans';
font-style: normal;
font-weight: 400;
src: local('Open Sans'), local('OpenSans'), url(http://themes.googleusercontent.com/static/fonts/opensans/v8/cJZKeOuBrn4kERxqtaUH3T8E0i7KZn-EPnyo3HZu7kw.woff) format('woff');
}
As you can see, if there is no local matching, it requests the font BUT in woff format, it's the same font but in another font format. In fact, I've done this example using chrome, but the css that google provides choose the best font format depending on browser and SO that made the request.
That's the reason why you see same font family rendering so different, the local one is .ttf, the another could be woff, svg (I think for IE), and there is other posibilities. And same font on different formats looks different, sometimes too much different.
I think the best choice is to create that css by yourself, not asking it to Google, and remove the local part, but it's important to add the other formats, other way it will not work on all supported browser.
This is potentially a duplicate of this question but this was my answer to that:
Fonts render differently based on:
Screen/Monitor resolution
Browser
Operating System
Size of use and hinting
Without seeing your code the only things I can recommend are:
Making sure you are using decent reset css (something like this: http://meyerweb.com/eric/tools/css/reset/).
Try adding font-weight: normal; to fonts to see if this makes a difference; sometimes browsers and frameworks try adding a fake bold to things.
Assuring you are using the actual versions of the fonts and not just applying CSS styles.
If all else fails then try bumping the font-size up/down a small amount and see if the font hints better at these sizes.
Some people also recommend not using the #import or direct link from google. Perhaps try downloading the file and using #font-face in your css.
Hope this helps!
EDIT:
If you’re hosting the font yourself — double check the #font-face call. Make sure you are calling all versions possible of the typeface. Also, Some browsers prefer certain formats being called earlier.
I downloaded a custom font (Gotham-Light.eot), but it doesn't work on Internet Explorer 9.
#font-face {
font-family: Gotham-Light;
src: url('Gotham-Light.eot');
}
This doesn't work. I'm using ASP MVC3 rebuilt, used custom tool, still nothing.
First, the goods:
#font-face {
font-family: 'ludger_duvernayregular';
src: url('http://jfcoder.com/css/fonts/ludgerduvernay-fontsquirrel/ludgerduvernay.eot');
src: url('http://jfcoder.com/css/fonts/ludgerduvernay-fontsquirrel/ludgerduvernay.eot?#iefix') format('embedded-opentype'),
url('http://jfcoder.com/css/fonts/ludgerduvernay-fontsquirrel/ludgerduvernay.woff') format('woff'),
url('http://jfcoder.com/css/fonts/ludgerduvernay-fontsquirrel/ludgerduvernay.ttf') format('truetype'),
url('http://jfcoder.com/css/fonts/ludgerduvernay-fontsquirrel/ludgerduvernay.svg#ludger_duvernayregular') format('svg');
font-weight: normal;
font-style: normal;
}
p.test {
font-family: 'ludger_duvernayregular', Arial, serif;
font-weight: 400;
color: blue;
}
Note, I used a font face that was purposefully easy to see as working. (And I don't have access to Gotham in a web font, so... I'm not even sure Gotham is licensed to use in web font form. If you do not have a license or the license does not allow for it, please respect that.) So you will have to do a little thinking about the paths to your font files.
What I've done is consult the blog post AlienWebGuy linked to, which is good. It's not long, so I'd read it. It boils down to:
Possibly a misconfigured MIME type for the font file. See below for more info. There's also a note that Apache may have this problem, it seems to be more of an IIS issue (according to the article).
You can trick (?) IE9 to use the EOT file instead of the WOFF, which apparently fixes the issue (according to the article).
Additionally, and as an aside, IE9 had a problem displaying the font with a jsFiddle demo using the same exact CSS. Very weird. IE7 and 8 worked fine, so I know it was working in some ways. I did not figure out what that was about, but I saved the same markup and CSS to a file on my site and it works fine.
Breakdown...
Let me explain what's going on in the above CSS. I'll go through each line. However, keep in mind I have the web font in the following file formats:
eot
woff
ttf
svg
You really probably only need eot, ttf and woff if you don't care to support legacy iOS. SVG translations are hard to obtain, though.
Now, first name your font so you can reference it:
font-family: 'ludger_duvernayregular';
IE9 Compat Modes:
src: url('http://jfcoder.com/css/fonts/ludgerduvernay-fontsquirrel/ludgerduvernay.eot');
Remember to verify the URLs you're using here actually lead to a real file. Put it in the address bar and see what happens (does it download? 404?).
On the following, though, I'm going to remove the full URL so you can see the entire statement, including the end.
IE6, 7 and 8:
src: url('http://../ludgerduvernay.eot?#iefix') format('embedded-opentype'),
Note this part:
.eot?#iefix <<< See below for an explanation.
Further IE CSS Fix
In some rare cases, IE will fail because the #font-face declaration
has too many characters. This can be solved in most instances by
adding a ‘#’ hash mark after the ‘?’ question mark. This buys you a
bit of extra room.
- From the Font Spring article
I have no idea why this works, so I'm taking their word for it.
Modern Browsers:
url('http://../ludgerduvernay.woff') format('woff'),
Safari, Android, iOS:
url('http://../ludgerduvernay.ttf') format('truetype'),
Legacy iOS:
url('http://../ludgerduvernay.svg#ludger_duvernayregular') format('svg');
Then use it:
p {
font-family: 'ludger_duvernayregular', Arial, serif;
}
I was actually surprised this works back to IE6. Anyways, notice that I use a full path to the file, not a relative one. That's usually a good place to start; check to make sure the link downloads. I'm making a big deal of this because it's basic and easy to screw up.
So if the file is downloading with the url and you've got it working in other browsers, and in IE6, 7 and/or 8, you can look at another possibility:
Fix IE9 on the Server Side (IIS)
Microsoft’s IIS server will refuse to send resources that it does not
have a MIME type for. The syntax we developed forces IE9 to take the
WOFF over the EOT, but if it is served on IIS, it will fail. This is
because IE9 requests the WOFF file, but since WOFF is not a defined
MIME type in IIS, a 404 Not Found error is returned. To solve this,
you must add ‘.woff’ with MIME type ‘application/x-font-woff’ to your
IIS installation.
- From the Font Spring article
So you may have to check your server isn't borking it. You can also use Chrome Console or Firebug NET tab to view the headers sent with the file.
Now I had a little help here, and I think you should think about the following options:
Google Web Fonts. Don't be a hero. They host the font, give you the include stylesheet markup, and presto whammo, you're in business. They also have some pretty cool fonts. There are other web font services, such as Typekit, Webtype, Fontdeck, and Fonts Live.
Font Squirrel has a #Font-Face Generator, which can give you all of the files you need (Warning: Only submit fonts you know to be licensed for web use.). Use the Expert mode, and it will give you a ZIP file with lots of great stuff, including a demo. The one I received you can download here. The interesting thing is, the generated CSS is identical to the Font Spring one, minus the comments. That's probably not a coincidence.
I found that awesome tool on this Opera Dev page. That is also worth reading.
And of course, that blog post AlienWebGuy linked to at Font Spring.
This stuff isn't hard, but you need to know how to troubleshoot. Always check that the file is downloading; you can use Chrome Console Resources tab or Firefox's Firebug add-on and watch the NET tab to see if it downloads. It if just literally won't work, post the page or code somewhere where we can get to it and we can review it.
Happy coding. :)
The super awesomely cool font used in the demo is Ludger Duvernay Regular. For more information, see Steve Cloutier/Cloutierfontes site. Thank you for making it free for personal use. :)
If you're following the instructions layed out here -- http://www.fontspring.com/blog/fixing-ie9-font-face-problems -- then it's most likely how your calling the fonts.
Make sure you are pointing to the right location from your stylesheet - the code you have above will only work if the font file is in the same directory as the stylesheet.
Hope this helps.
Gotham is a commercial product, and if you have just downloaded it from somewhere, it’s probably an illegal copy or a fake, and may well be technically broken too.
Consider using a free font of similar design, such as Cicle.
For googlers: I had a problem with either long font name or conflict with already installed font. Anyway IE were the only browser having problems.
I changed
font-family: 'HelveticaLTUltraCompressedRegular';
to
font-family: 'HelveticaLTUCR';
which solved my issue.
I'm working on an MVC project which uses localisation via resource files, all other foreign characters seem to render no problem in Internet Explorer 7 & 8, except for hyphens.
It just displays a space where the hyphen should be. I've tried putting the ascii code - but this doesn't work.
Any help would be great, thanks
I've figured out this was down to the font being used on the site, "Lucida Grande", even though this was being imported with #font-face it didn't like the hyphens!
Changing the font to Trebuchet MS in my conditional stylesheet fixed the problem. Hopefully this is helpful to anybody else having a similar problem