Vertical CSS Menu with large top and left gaps - css

Question

I have a vertical CSS menu but there is a gap to the left and above and i cannot work out where to remove it - my menu CSS is below and i have created a fiddle with my full code:
#vertical_menu {
float:left;
}
#vertical_menu > ul > li {
display:inline-block;
width:140px;
}
#vertical_menu > li {
display:inline-block;
list-style:none;
margin-left:-20px;
}
#vertical_menu li a {
display:block;
padding-bottom:10px;
margin-top:15px;
border-bottom:4px solid #000000;
color: #000000;
text-decoration:none;
}
#vertical_menu li a:hover {
border-color:#666666;
color:#666666
}
any ideas?
http://jsfiddle.net/Dfw9f/1/

Answer 1

i think what you are looking for is a reset CSS, kindly check CSS Tools: Reset CSS
The goal of a reset stylesheet is to reduce browser inconsistencies in
things like default line heights, margins and font sizes of headings
for quick solution just add this to your CSS
ul,tr,hr{margin:0;padding:0;}

Answer 2

I think adding this to your code will solve your problem:
ul
{
padding:0px;
margin:0px;
}
Hope this helped.
UPDATE
I think the gap is not because of an issue with margin or padding, but because of an empty row in your table. You can see this by giving the table a border, like <table border="1"> (jsfiddle).
I see that you included the last row of the table to have a line between the table and the menu. You can accomplish this simply by deleting the last row of the table (which is messing your layout) and add a border-bottom to the table, like <table border="0" style="border-bottom:1px solid gray;">
JSFIDDLE - here is an updated version, with the line and correctly laid out menu.
Hope this helped.