Arial in Chrome - css

I have a problem with Arial (maybe other fonts too) in Chrome/Chromium.
It looks good when I use font-family: Arial;
But when I include Arial font-file via #font-face it looks different!
Why could it be? What can I do to make them look the same? Where exactly Chrome takes its fonts?
Here is my css
#font-face {
font-family: 'My Arial';
src: url(Arial.ttf) format('truetype');
font-weight: normal;
font-style: normal;
}
body {
padding: 20px;
font-size: 16px;
}
body#native {
font-family: Arial;
}
body#fontface {
font-family: 'My Arial';
}
Here is the rendered text:
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Sorry for my English, it's not my native language.

I use #font-face a lot, and there's always a difference in how different browsers render it. With some fonts it gets really ugly, in your particular case, I'd say difference is insignificant, and everything else just as Sparky672 already commented.
If you absolutely must have pixel-precise identical rendering on all systems, maybe some javascript based solution may help, check this:
https://stackoverflow.com/a/692994/525445
Again, if this was my site on your screenshots, I'd be perfectly happy with how it looks.
It's just the nature of the web that not everyone will see the identical thing, there are different monitors with different color settings, different resolutions, some people zoom in the text etc.
Just to mention the option, you can detect Chrome with JavaScript and then apply some specific CSS to tweak it.

Is the Arial file you're including with #font-face the same exact file from your system or did you get it from somewhere else? There could be difference in the files that's causing the difference. If not, then as #Sparky672 said in his last comment, there's not much you can do, it's just a browser rendering issue.
Also, out of curiosity, why are you including Arial with #font-face, since it's available on virtually every system?

Related

variable font flickers on page load

I have the following problem: I'm using the variable font from the family inter (https://rsms.me/inter/) and implemented it the following way:
#font-face {
font-family: 'Inter var';
font-weight: 100 900;
font-display: swap;
font-style: normal;
font-named-instance: 'Regular';
src: url("Inter-roman.var.woff2?v=3.15") format("woff2");
}
html { font-family: 'Inter var', sans-serif; }
When styling a font, I only want to change the font-weight, therefore I declare it like this:
p { font-variation-settings: 'wght' 200; }
The browser renders the font in the correct family and weight, but unfortunately on page load, the font always "flickers" shortly. It seems to me, that the browser first renders the font in the normal font-weight and then re-renders it with my wanted weight. This issue is happening on all fonts I use with the variable font-variation-settings.
The behaviour happens on every page load, also on reloads. You can have a look at the issue during page-reload here:
Thanks for a hint!
As we have found there are many causes for font flickering.
The solution for the problem that promted this post was found by the post creator:
"I have fixed it somehow: I have asked the creator of the font and this was his answer: "Probably because you are using font-display:swap (it intentionally causes "flicker" for requests to fonts that are not cached in the client, which should be rare.) See developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/#font-face/…" If I change the font-display to block, it does not flicker anymore but there is a longer period of time, where the font doesnt get rendered. I have decided to change the project and work with an standard not variable font. – Mista K."
Loading on a server:
While I am certainly not an expert on this. Loading the file on a server fixes the problem. This is likely due to the style sheet being cached when loaded on a server.
Changing font:
This is not so much a fix, but errors may be caused by the font itself infortunately.
Another quick fix:
Adding a loading screen may be required for a project and thus the font can be loaded within this.
Sorry this is not the most definitive post, this is just what we have found to be solutions over discussing this problem. Feel free to comment on this to add to this or even to tell me I'm wrong.
This seems to be a problem with the font it's self the best solution I can give is to simply use another font. I would recommend using google fonts
HTML:
<head>
<link rel="stylesheet" href="https://fonts.googleapis.com/css?family=Open+Sans">
</head>
CSS:
p {
font-family: 'Open Sans';
}
----------Original Post----------
Why not just simply use p {font-weight: 200;} instead, this might solve the problem and would probaly be easier to read (at least from an external persective)
Also try adding your font-family to body instead of html if this doesn't work

font-face with bold weight not being recognized

I am using 2 #font-face on my index.css file with the purpose of using a font in regular weight and in bold weight as my default font in my entire application:
index.css file:
body {
padding: 0px;
margin:0px;
font-family: "LucidaGrande";
}
#font-face {
font-family: 'LucidaGrande';
src: local('LucidaGrande'), url(../assets/fonts/LucidaGrande.ttf) format('truetype');
}
#font-face {
font-family: 'LucidaGrande';
font-weight: 900;
src: local('LucidaGrande'), url(../assets/fonts/LucidaGrandeBold.ttf) format('truetype');
}
Now, the regular weight seems to be working for the entire application, however, on an other part of my application I am trying to use the font in bold weight like this:
#presentation-text em{
font-size: 35px;
color: rgb(139, 59, 28);
font-style: normal;
font-weight: 900;
}
However the 900 i.e the bold weight is not being applied, still regular.
Am I using this correctly?
If you're using #font-face, never use local(...). The whole reason you're using #font-face is to ensure that you control exactly which font resource gets loaded for which (set of) font properties. The last thing you want is for the OS to black-box fetch you what it thinks the font is for the name you specified. Even if it really does find Lucida Grande for some user, there is zero guarantee it's going to be the same version you have installed on your development machine.
Interestingly that actually tangential to the real problem here: the way you've written your CSS right now means that, because you have the font installed locally, whatever follows local(...) will never even be looked at by the browser, similar to what happens when you're using font-family: serif, Times. The browser knows how to resolve the first thing, so it immediately stops: it already found what it needed to find.
Effectively your current CSS, running in a browser on your own machine, says this, as far as the browser is concerned:
#font-face {
font-family: 'LucidaGrande';
src: local('LucidaGrande);
}
#font-face {
font-family: 'LucidaGrande';
font-weight: 900;
src: local('LucidaGrande);
}
So you're loading the exact same thing in both declarations. As CSS weights for the text shaper in the browser are entirely independent from the system text engine, the result is exactly what you're seeing: both rules declare the same font resource as the one to use when you say font-family: LucidaGrande, both with or without font-weight: 900.
Drop local(...) and it'll instead work exactly as you need it to.
Also, you'll want to turn those .ttf files into WOFF2 and then load those, because they're much smaller, as well as a promise to the browser that these are indeed unencumbered webfonts.

How to set different font-weight for fallback font?

I've came across a problem with custom font i use for my website.
So i use following CSS for text.
font-family: "Open Sans",Helvetica,Arial;
font-weight:600;
As website is built in my native language, i have to use UTF-8 symbols, that doesn't seems to be included in Open Sans, so they are being shown in Helvetica instead, but the problem is that they have more weight.
Is there any possible solutions to set font-weight parameter to normal, if fallback font is being used?
You could define a new #font-face for each font you want.
#font-face {
font-family: 'mainFont';
src: url(/*Link to Open Sans*/);
font-weight: 600;
}
#font-face {
font-family: 'secondaryFont';
src: local('Helvetica');
font-weight: 400;
}
#font-face {
font-family: 'tertiaryFont';
src: local('Arial');
font-weight: 600;
}
Then you'll end up with font-family: 'mainFont', 'secondaryFont', 'tertiaryFont'; which should get the desired results.
Unfortunately, there is no way to define fallback font specific styling using CSS alone.
As such you may want to attempt to work out the font being used, then apply a style as a result, see here for one method which works out the width resulting from applying a font to an element before 'best guessing' which it is.
That said, it is essentially a hack/workaround.
Otherwise, you could look into implementing a method to identify where the symbols are and then wrap them in styles span tags, again this would be a fairly dirty hack as opposed to a clean solution.
I believe MichaelM's solution won't work. What you can do is specify the font files using the "postcript name" that you can find in various font info sites online.
font-family: "Open Sans",Helvetica-Light;
unfortunately specifying font-weight: 600 might result in undefined behavior. some browser might try to make it bolder, some might just leave it be.,

Installed font from Google looks different than font gained through their API?

I'm going mad with an issue and I wonder if anyone can help. I'm currently using http://font-combinator.com to see what different style of fonts look like together. This website simply loads fonts in from Google Fonts and displays them onscreen.
Now I choose a font, think it looks ok, and head over to Google and download it. I then paste that font into my local font directory so I can see what it looks like locally, and add it's name in my css like so:
font: 100%/1.6 "Font name here";
color: #bbb;
font-weight: 400; (for example)
Problem is when I look at it in the same browser as I did the Font Combinator, it looks rougher and more jagged. No settings have been changed. The font on both sites is 16px. For reference I am using Windows XP with cleartype turned off (I don't like it).
Now if I link to Google Fonts directly through my website, then it displays the same as on the Font Combinator. I don't understand how installing the same font that Google uses produces a different result? Ideally I would like to host the font on my website myself, but can't see a way around this? Am I doing something wrong, or is there something I've missed? Thanks!
For reference I am using the following reset:
html,body,etc.... {
margin: 0;
padding: 0;
border: 0;
outline: 0;
list-style-type: none;
font-size: 100%;
}
Edit: #Fontface code that I've used, that does seem to look the same!
#font-face {
font-family: 'Molengo';
src: url('./fonts/Molengo-Regular.ttf')
format('truetype');
}
(just picked this font as an example)
I had same problem and it's a mess and hard to solve. The main problem is that the font you've downloaded is not actually the "same" that google webfonts provides.
The font family is the same, but Google can provide it in different formats. The font that you've installed on your system is probably a .ttf file, that's a truetype font and Windows can use it. But, if you look the css that Google serves you when you includes a font, it's something like this:
For this:
http://fonts.googleapis.com/css?family=Open+Sans
you get this:
#font-face {
font-family: 'Open Sans';
font-style: normal;
font-weight: 400;
src: local('Open Sans'), local('OpenSans'), url(http://themes.googleusercontent.com/static/fonts/opensans/v8/cJZKeOuBrn4kERxqtaUH3T8E0i7KZn-EPnyo3HZu7kw.woff) format('woff');
}
As you can see, if there is no local matching, it requests the font BUT in woff format, it's the same font but in another font format. In fact, I've done this example using chrome, but the css that google provides choose the best font format depending on browser and SO that made the request.
That's the reason why you see same font family rendering so different, the local one is .ttf, the another could be woff, svg (I think for IE), and there is other posibilities. And same font on different formats looks different, sometimes too much different.
I think the best choice is to create that css by yourself, not asking it to Google, and remove the local part, but it's important to add the other formats, other way it will not work on all supported browser.
This is potentially a duplicate of this question but this was my answer to that:
Fonts render differently based on:
Screen/Monitor resolution
Browser
Operating System
Size of use and hinting
Without seeing your code the only things I can recommend are:
Making sure you are using decent reset css (something like this: http://meyerweb.com/eric/tools/css/reset/).
Try adding font-weight: normal; to fonts to see if this makes a difference; sometimes browsers and frameworks try adding a fake bold to things.
Assuring you are using the actual versions of the fonts and not just applying CSS styles.
If all else fails then try bumping the font-size up/down a small amount and see if the font hints better at these sizes.
Some people also recommend not using the #import or direct link from google. Perhaps try downloading the file and using #font-face in your css.
Hope this helps!
EDIT:
If you’re hosting the font yourself — double check the #font-face call. Make sure you are calling all versions possible of the typeface. Also, Some browsers prefer certain formats being called earlier.

Fonts looks different in Firefox and Chrome

I am using Google Web Font's PT-sans
font-family: 'PT Sans',Arial,serif;
but it looks different in Chrome and Firefox
Is there anything that I need to add so that it looks same in all browsers?
For the ChunkFive font from FontSquirrel, specifying "font-weight: normal;" stopped Firefox's rendering from looking like ass when used in a header. Looks like Firefox was trying to apply a fake bold to a font that only has one weight, while Chrome was not.
For me, Chrome web fonts look crappy until I put the SVG font ahead of WOFF and TrueType. For example:
#font-face {
font-family: 'source_sans_proregular';
src: url('sourcesanspro-regular-webfont.eot');
src: url('sourcesanspro-regular-webfont.eot?#iefix') format('embedded-opentype'),
url('sourcesanspro-regular-webfont.svg#source_sans_proregular') format('svg'),
url('sourcesanspro-regular-webfont.woff') format('woff'),
url('sourcesanspro-regular-webfont.ttf') format('truetype');
font-weight: normal;
font-style: normal;
}
Even then, Chrome's fonts look thinner than in Firefox or IE. Chrome looks good at this point, but I usually want to set different fonts in IE and Firefox. I use a mixture of IE conditional comments and jQuery to set different fonts depending on the browser. For Firefox, I have the following function run when the page loads:
function setBrowserClasses() {
if (true == $.browser.mozilla) {
$('body').addClass('firefox');
}
}
Then in my CSS, I can say
body { font-family: "source_sans_proregular", Helvetica, sans-serif; }
body.firefox { font-family: "source_sans_pro_lightregular", Helvetica, sans-serif; }
Likewise, in an IE-only stylesheet included within IE conditional comments, I can say:
body { font-family: "source_sans_pro_lightregular", Helvetica, sans-serif; }
There are a few fixes. But usually it can be fixed with:
html {
-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased;
-moz-osx-font-smoothing: grayscale;
}
Sometimes it can be due to font-weight. If you are using a custom font with #font-face make sure your font-weight syntax is correct. In #font-face the idea of the font-weight/font-style properties are to keep your font-family name across different #font-face declarations while using different font-weight or font-style so those values work properly in CSS (and load your custom font -- not "fake bold").
I've seen -webkit-text-stroke: 0.2px; mentioned to thicken webkit fonts, but I think you probably won't need this if you use the first piece of code I gave.
css reset may fix the problem, I am not sure .
http://yuilibrary.com/yui/docs/cssreset/
I've noticed that chrome tends to make fonts a bit more sharper and firefox a bit smoother.
There is nothing you can do about it. good luck
To avoid font discrepancies across browsers, avoid using css styles to alter the look of the font. Using the font-size property is usually safe, but you may want to avoid doing things like font-weight: bold; instead, you should download the bold version of the font and give it another font-family name.
i found this to be working great :
-webkit-text-stroke: 0.7px;
or
-webkit-text-stroke: 1px rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.7);
experiment with the "0,7" value to adjust to your needs.
The lines are added where you define the bodys font.
here is an example:
body {
font-size: 100%;
background-color: #FFF;
font-family: 'Source Sans Pro', sans-serif;
margin: 0;
font-weight: lighter;
-webkit-text-stroke: 0.7px;
As of 2014, Chrome still has a known bug where if the webfont being used has a local copy installed, it choses to use the local version, hence, causing OP rendering issues.
To fix this, you can do the following:
First, target Chrome Browser or OSX (For me, the issue was with OSX Chrome only). I have used this simple JS to get quick Browser/OS's detection, you can chose to do this in any other way you're used to:
https://raw.github.com/rafaelp/css_browser_selector/master/css_browser_selector.js
Now that you can target a Browser/OS, create the following 'new' font:
#font-face {
font-family: 'Custom PT Sans';
src: url(http://themes.googleusercontent.com/static/fonts/ptsans/v6/jKK4-V0JufJQJHow6k6stALUuEpTyoUstqEm5AMlJo4.woff) format('woff');
font-weight: normal;
font-style: normal;
}
The font URL is the same your browser uses when embedding the google webfont. If you use any other font, just copy and change the URL accordingly.
Get the URL here http://fonts.googleapis.com/css?family=PT+Sans:400,700&subset=latin,latin-ext
You may also rename your #font-face custom font-family alias.
Create a simple CSS rule to use that font targeting Browser/OS or both:
.mac .navigation a {
font-family: "Custom PT Sans", "PT Sans", sans-serif;
}
Or
.mac.webkit p {
font-family: "Custom PT Sans", "PT Sans", sans-serif;
}
Done. Just apply the font-family rule wherever you need to.
Different browsers (and FWIW, different OSes) use different font rendering engines, and their results are not meant to be identical. As already pointed out, you can't do anything about it (unless, obviously, you can replace text with images or flash or implement your own renderer using javascript+canvas - the latter being a bit overboard if you ask me).
I had the same issue for a couple of months. Finally, it got worked by disabling below settings in Chrome browser's settings.
Set "Accelerated 2D Canvas" to "Disabled"
(In the browser's address bar, go to chrome://flags#disable-accelerated-2d-canvas, change the setting, relaunch the browser.)
Since the fix for this issue has clearly changed, I would suggest in general turning off any hardware-accelerated text-rendering/2D-rendering features in the future if this fix stops working.
On Google Chrome 55, this issue appears to have cropped up again. As anticipated, the fix was disabling hardware acceleration, it just changed locations.
The new fix (for me) appears to be:
Settings -> Show advanced settings... -> System
UNCHECK "Use hardware acceleration when available"
https://superuser.com/questions/821092/chromes-fonts-look-off
The issue might be more what we don't set in our CSS than what we do set.
In my case, FF is showing text in the default Times New Roman, while Chrome uses Montserrat as expected.
This happens to be because in Chrome I set Montserrat as the default, while FF has no default.
So, I think that some browser differences are rooted in the browser's configuration rather than in my CSS.

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