The short story: me and friend are making a multiplayer action game and we thought playn would be great for this. Android, java and HTML5 support is the most important ones but we don't want to cut out the others if not necessary.
The problem is now when we want to implement the networking part of it. We have implemented our own capable server and thought we would use long polling http requests for communication. We estimate now we need some way to have one thread running for the communication that use messages and two multithread safe queues. One queue for incoming messages that the update() part can consume from and one queue for outgoing messages to the server.
Is there any way to implement this without losing platform support? Or any other idea how we can implement this?
PlayN currently has no cross-platform support for persistent socket connections to a server. You will need to implement your own cross-platform abstraction. You can use WebSockets for the HTML5 backend, and you can look for a WebSockets library for Android and whatever other platforms you intend to support.
You can also use the Nexus library, which is designed to work with PlayN and provide client/server communication. However, it raises the level of abstraction substantially beyond passing simple messages between the client and server, so it might be easier to just implement your own simple WebSockets based communication than to learn how Nexus works.
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I have to connect an old but critical software to RabbitMQ. The software doesn't support AMQP, but it can do HTTP Requests.
Does RabbitMQ support plain HTTP? Or should I use a "proxy" or "app" that actively transforms the HTTP Requests to AMQP 1.0 and pushes it to the RabbitMQ server?
https://www.rabbitmq.com/management.html
The management plugin supports a simple HTTP API to send and receive messages. This is primarily intended for diagnostic purposes but can be used for low volume messaging without reliable delivery.
As mentioned, it's designed for very low loads, but it may be usable. If you need higher loads, then by all means cast around for a library that does the job and create a proxy. Most languages will have something. I've personally created a lightweight API using Lumen and https://github.com/bschmitt/laravel-amqp to tie a few disparate services together in the past, and it seems to work very well.
It is possible not but really recommended depending on load. You have three options really, two of which are web socket based and one that seems like what you're looking for. I'd suggest starting with the rabbitmq docs.
I want to create a web app using React as the front end technology. A requirement for the app is that the server will be able to update all the clients with information about changes (not have to be an exact real time, but should update after no more than 10 seconds).
Solutions like clients requesting updates from the server every several seconds are out of the question.
Requirements:
1) The server's should be implemented with either .NET or with Node.js.
2) The connection MUST be secured via port 443 of the IIS.
I read a bit about Micorsoft's SignalR and about Pusher Channels which seems to provide exactly the kind of service I require.
Could you please elaborate about what exactly are the differences between them? When should I choose each? Which of them got more community support? Which is easier to implement? Stuff like that...
Both SignalR and Pusher Channels ultimately both use websockets to deliver messages to clients, so both should meet your requirements to deliver messages to clients in realtime.
1) Both offerings also meet your requirements for both library support:
SignalR supports .NET:
https://dotnet.microsoft.com/apps/aspnet/signalr
Pusher Channels has server support for both nodejs and .NET:
https://github.com/pusher/pusher-http-node
https://github.com/pusher/pusher-http-dotnet
2) Both offerings also meet your requirements for sending messages over TLS/WSS:
SignalR:
https://kimsereyblog.blogspot.com/2018/07/signalr-with-asp-net-core.html
Pusher Channels:
Securing Pusher's messages
In terms of the differences between them this depends on your implementation, if you just run SignalR on your own ISS server then it will be down to you to manage all of the websocket connections and all of the scaling challenges that come with this.
However similar to how Channels works, SignalR also has a managed websocket service, so you do not need to manage the connections or scaling. You just make an API request with the message you want to send to either Channels or SignalR and this message is then broadcast to the interested clients connected by websockets. In this scenario you do not manage the websocket connections yourself.
However in terms of pricing Channels appears to be far more competitive (especially the free offering), so if you are looking at the managed offering Channels looks to be a better value proposition:
https://azure.microsoft.com/en-gb/pricing/details/signalr-service/
https://pusher.com/channels/pricing
Both offerings look fairly similar in terms of implementation (assuming you are using the managed service). The complexity would increase if you implement SignalR on ISS:
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/aspnet/core/signalr/scale?view=aspnetcore-2.2
In terms of support Pusher has a free application support offering:
https://support.pusher.com/hc/en-us
Hope this helps!
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I am searching for a good method to transfer data over internet, and I work in C++/windows environment. The data is binary, a compressed blob of an extracted image. Input and requirements are as follows:
6kB/packet # 10 packets/sec (60kBytes per second)
Reliable data transfer
I am new to network programming and so far I could figure out that one of the following methods will be suitable.
Sockets
MSMQ (MS Message Queuing)
The Client runs on a browser (Shows realtime images on browser). While server runs native C++ code. Please let me know if there are any other methods for achieving the same? Which one should I go for and why?
If the server determines the pace at which images are sent, which is what it looks like, a server push style solution would make sense. What most browsers (and even non-browsers) are settling for these days are WebSockets.
The main advantage WebSockets have over most proprietary protocols, apart from becoming a widely adopted standard, is that they run on top of HTTP and can thus permeate (most) proxies and firewalls etc.
On the server side, you could potentially integrate node.js, which allows you to easily implement WebSockets, and comes with a lot of other libraries. It's written in C++, and extensible via C++ and JavaScript, which node.js hosts a VM for. node.js's main feature is being asynchronous at every level, making that style of programming the default.
But of course there are other ways to implement WebSockets on the server side, maybe node.js is more than you need. I have implemented a C++ extension for node.js on Windows and use socket.io to do WebSockets and non-WebSocket transports for older browsers, and that has worked out fine for me.
But that was textual data. In your binary data case, socket.io wouldn't do it, so you could check out other libraries that do binary over WebSockets.
Is there any specific reason why you cannot run a server on your windows machine? 60kb/seconds, looks like some kind of an embedded device?
Based on our description, you ned to show image information, in realtime on a browser. You can possibly use HTTP. but its stateless, meaning once the information is transferred, you lose the connection. You client needs to poll the C++/Windows machine. If you are prety confident the information generated is periodic, you can use this approach. This requires a server, so only if a yes to my first question
A chat protocol. Something like a Jabber client running on your client, and a Jabber server on your C++/Windows machine. Chat protocols allow almost realtime
While it may seem to make sense, I wouldn't use MSMQ in this scenario. You may not run into a problem now, but MSMQ messages are limited in size and you may eventually hit a wall because of this.
I would use TCP for this application, TCP is built with reliability in mind and you can simply feed data through a socket. You may have to figure out a very simple protocol yourself but it should be the best choice.
Unless you are using an embedded device that understands MSMQ out of the box, your best bet to use MSMQ would be to use a proxy and you are then still forced to play with TCP and possibly HTTP.
I do home automation that includes security cameras on my personal time and I use the .net micro framework and even if it did have MSMQ capabilities I still wouldn't use it.
I recommend that you look into MJPEG (Motion JPEG) which sounds exactly like what you would like to do.
http://www.codeproject.com/Articles/371955/Motion-JPEG-Streaming-Server
Is it a good idea to use Websockets (comet, server push, ...) to overcome a problem with long running HTTP requests? Imagine you have an app, build on full-stack web app framework, like Django, or Rails. You want to do some background processing in the name of performance. That's easy to do from programmer perspective, but the problem arises in the UI.
Users demand immediate response. So my idea was to use Socket.IO + node.js + AMQP messaging, to push notifications back to browsers, once the background task completed. I like the idea, but it still feels like lots of engineering, just because we don't want to long running requests in our main app. Competing idea could be to use another, more robust, web server, that can handle many long running HTTP requests.
Which one you think is better?
Is it a good idea to use Websockets to
overcome a problem with long running HTTP requests?
Yes it is. You can save singificant amount of data when compared to other techniques, such as continuous or long polling. Try to look at this article, namely the Step 3 part.
I like the idea, but it still feels like lots of engineering, just
because we don't want to long running requests in our main app.
Competing idea could be to use another, more robust, web server, that
can handle many long running HTTP requests.
Socket.io abstracts transport layer and fallback solutions (in case of websockets absence) for you. If you want to use socket.io/node.js/AMPQ stack only for messaging and notifications then it shouldn't be a complex or time consuming development process, however it may depend on various stuff around.
By delegating messaging/notifications to node.js you may disburden your main app to great extent thanks to its non-blocking architecture although you will introduce dependency on another technology.
On the other hand choosing more performant web server may solve your performance concerns for some time, but you may eventually end up with scaling your system (either up or out).
WebSockets in themselves provide little here over e.g. XHR or jsonp long polling. From the user's perspective, messaging over either transport would feel the same. From the server's perspective, an open WebSocket connection or an open long poll isn't violently different.
What you're really doing, and should be doing regardless of the underlying technology, is build your application to be asynchronous - event driven.
I'm developing a multi-player game and I know nothing about how to connect from one client to another via a server. Where do I start? Are there any whizzy open source projects which provide the communication framework into which I can drop my message data or do I have to write a load of complicated multi-threaded sockety code? Does the picture change at all if teh clients are running on phones?
I am language agnostic, although ideally I would have a Flash or Qt front end and a Java server, but that may be being a bit greedy.
I have spent a few hours googling, but the whole topic is new to me and I'm a bit lost. I'd appreciate help of any kind - including how to tag this question.
If latency isn't a huge issue, you could just implement a few web services to do message passing. This would not be a slow as you might think, and is easy to implement across languages. The downside is the client has to poll the server to get updates. so you could be looking at a few hundred ms to get from one client to another.
You can also use the built in flex messaging interface. There are provisions there to allow client to client interactions.
Typically game engines send UDP packets because of latency. The fact is that TCP is just not fast enough and reliability is less of a concern than speed is.
Web services would compound the latency issues inherent in TCP due to additional overhead. Further, they would eat up memory depending on number of expected players. Finally, they have a large amount of payload overhead that you just don't need (xml anyone?).
There are several ways to go about this. One way is centralized messaging (client/server). This means that you would have a java server listening for udp packets from the clients. It would then rebroadcast them to any of the relevant users.
A second way is decentralized (peer to peer). A client registers with the server to state what game / world it's in. From that it gets a list of other clients in that world. The server maintains that list and notifies the other clients of people who join / drop out.
From that point forward clients broadcast udp packets directly to the other users.
If you look for communication framework with high performance try look at ACE C++ framework (it has Java bindings).
Official web-site is: http://www.cs.wustl.edu/~schmidt/ACE-overview.html
You could also look into Flash Media Interactive Server, or if you want a Java implementation, Wowsa or Red5. Those use AMF and provide native functionality for ShareObjects including synching of the ShareObjects among connected clients.
Those aren't peer to peer though (yet, it's coming soon I hear). They use centralized messaging managed by the server.
Good luck