I used the ASP.NET membership and have some confusions in its data table. Why the database has aspnet_Membership and aspnet_User table separate because both contains the info of user and apparently no need to make different tables. beside this find PasswordSalt confusing. Kindly someone explain or share a link for details of relationships of tables?
Here is the diagram: http://superpatrick.wordpress.com/2007/11/21/aspnet-membership-schema/
Membership is separate from user because you can turn on profile, authorization, web parts and still turn off membership. For example, if you are using windows authentication (i.e. Active Directory) as your membership store, then the membership table is left unused and the user table needs only a few columns to help id the windows user that owns things in the profile, or web parts table.
As to why they do what they do I'm not really sure on that one. but I can give a little context to the relationships between the two.
aspnet_users contains the user information for the account.
aspnet_membership contains the login info and ties to a user
In all reality could these be one table, sure, but they do separate two key pieces of information the user and the password. Also just like everything else the ASP.NET system is modular in the way that you can enable/disable different features and keeping the tables separate helps with that.
The PasswordSalt is used when encrypting/hashing the password to add additional randomness to the passwords so that even with the same password the values wouldn't be the same.
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I'm building a website that will be used by employees to log work that they've completed. The site contains a page to submit the information, a page to view the information and a page with the employees personal info like name, email, phone, etc. I'm using ASP.NET Membership for authentication. All code will be VB. My questions:
1) ASP.NET Membership only stores the username and email of members. I want to store additional information like first and last name, phone number, etc. Can I just update the tables in the membership database to include this information? Or should I store this information in a separate database? My goal is to populate text boxes on one of the pages with data specific to the user that is currently logged in.
2) The work completed will be stored in another database since it seems logical to keep it separate from membership data. What is the most efficient way to pull and display records from this separate "work" database that are specific to the user who has logged in and been authenticated against the member database?
3) I'm having trouble with the design of tables for the "work" database. Each record stored in the database will represent a days worth of work. However, a number of activities will occur during that day. Each activity will have a type of activity, location and amount of time worked. An employee can complete 1 activity or 100 activities. I assume I'm going to need a table just for the activities and then relate it to the work table. Does this sound correct?
For your first Point i will suggest you to create your own table of User and relate this table with membership user table with guid viz. keep on userid file in your table and relate it with membership table.
Second point will automatically get solved once you will create your own user table, all you need is to relate work and user table(created by you) to fetch the records from work
And at last if you are creating new table for activities how come you will relate it to your work table, again you will have multiple occurrence for record, instead i would suggest do not create another table for activities keep it in work table itself as if you are creating a new table, you will have to provide relationship with work which will result in redundancy.
Hope this helps.
Hi Stack Community Members,
I am developing an application under MVC3 where users have department-specific CRUD privileges. In other words, all users can view data for all departments, but only certain users can make changes to the data for any one given department. User-department privilege data is held in a join table in a database.
What I typically do in this kind of situation (in PHP) is to create a Session variable (an array) on login which is populated with the id's of the departments which the user is allowed to edit. When a user then goes to access the editing feature a drop-down list is populated with only these specific departments. I also populate a few other session variables which are used frequently like the user's name and the id of the current time period (business quarter).
Is this type of approach a good way to go in MVC3, or is some alternative approach better? While I figure that I'm going to use Forms Authentication and some specific roles (employee, admin, etc.) these types of roles are just too broad to be able to target department-by-department access, and I'm not sure that MVC3 has an out-of-the-box method which is better than what I'm planning to do.
Your guidance is appreciated!
I'm using Forms Authentication, add specific roles, and combine them if needed. I don't mind being specific for the roles, as they can be combined anyway I want. I can still have broad roles for more general actions.
I store similar data (UserId, DepartmentId, etc) in session since it does not change for the user and it is a small amount of data. It is my opinion that session state would be a good approach for you also.
I have a couple of questions regarding Membership Provider. My textbook got me started but I still need more information.
I am using Linq to Entities, does it make sense to also create LINQ entity relationships with my membership provider DB?
I would like to add additional user attributes other than provided in the membership provider. Can I add them to the aspnet.USER table without any issues?
My users will join the website and will gain privildges as they participate, much like Stack Overflow. I want to keep track of their postings by adding a field to the user table to manage that function.
Thanks in advance!
There are two ways to associate additional information with user accounts when using the Membership model. The first - which affords the greatest flexibility, but requires the most upfront effort - is to create a custom data store for this information. If you are using the SqlMembershipProvider, this would mean creating an additional database table that had as a primary key the UserId value from the aspnet_Users table and columns for each of the additional user properties. In the online messageboard example, the table might be called forums_UserProfile and have columns like UserId (a primary key and a foreign key back to aspnet_Users.UserId), HomepageUrl, Signature, and IMAddress.
Rather than using custom data stores, the ASP.NET Profile system can
be used to store user-specific information. The Profile system allows
the page developer to define the properties she wants to associate
with each user. Once defined, the developer can programmatically read
from and assign values to these properties. The Profile system
accesses or writes the property values to a backing store as needed.
Like Membership and Roles, the Profile system is based on the provider
model, and the particular Profile provider is responsible for
serializing and deserializing the property values to some data store.
The .NET Framework ships with a SqlProfileProvider class by default,
which uses a SQL Server database table (aspnet_Profile) as its backing
store.
Examining ASP.NET's Membership, Roles, and Profile - Part 6
By Scott Mitchell
This should get you started. I guess I could answer your questions as follow:
It shouldn't be necessary. Explore the membership API, everything you ever wanted is... probably in there.
Read the article and decide what's best.
Good luck, :).
Sincerely,
Maxime
Designing a new application in asp.net 4 I have to make a decision how to use a MS SQL Membership API along with my own data in the MS SQL data base. Firstly I need to store and access user profile data in more flexible manner then the Profile provider supports. Secondly I would like to link other user related information (e.g. Orders).
No matter where you store your aspnetdb tables (in the separate data base or in the same data base with your data), the problem stays how to keep your data synchronized.
After a research I see the following relevant options:
1. Foreign key UserId from asp_Users (suggested in this tutorial).
2. No foreign key - use transactions (suggested here).
3. No foreign key - use customized AccountController (whatever it is, suggested here).
4. Additional table which links Membership UserId (uid) with custom UserId (int).
5. ...
On the one hand I like the first solution as it is quite straightforward and is suggested in an official asp.net tutorial.
On the other hand opponents note quite reasonably that using foreign keys breaks the general idea of providers which are supposed to help separating concerns and to be interchangeable. But unfortunately they do not go much into implementation details so it is not really easy to estimate those suggestions in terms of relevance and ease of implementation.
So what is the best option to approach this? Furthermore how would the implementation look like? Would it be enough to use just additional ADO.NET or LINQ etc code or is it worth implementing a custom Membership and/or Profile Provider?
Thank you in advance.
The first is the simpliest approach. Add the GUID of the user as a foreignkey in the related tables (f.e. Ordered_by). I don't see where it breaks separating concerns. If you want to keep the order-record in database, you also have to keep the user who has ordered, that makes perfectly sense.
I have used option 4 successfully in my current application. I've created a table aspnet_UserID with idUser int as primary-key and fiUser(the GUID of the aspnet_Users) as foreign-key. Here is the model:
(Note: User is the standard aspnet_Users table created via aspnet_regsql.exe and aspnet_UserId is my custom table that maps every Guid with my int-ID)
Now i'm storing only my idUser as FK in all related tables (like in your Order-Table). That has the advantage of less storage and more readable UserID's(i could never remember a GUID). Maybe it's somewhat more separated with this "wrapper-table" but that was not my main intention.
You can change the delete-rule on your foreignkeys if you want to control the behavior. Set it to Cascade if you f.e. want to delete all orders that were ordered by the user you're deleting or set it to no Action if you want to keep this order.
I can't suggest any alternatives for the Profile question because you haven't mentioned what you mean with "need to store and access user profile data in more flexible manner then the Profile provider supports".
You should consider writing your own custom membership provider that uses the tables/data as per your need (instead of using ASP.NET provided schema).
See this MSDn sample (schema, code) for writing a custom provider - this sample uses OLEDB to access database. Yet another sample is here - it uses active directory as a store.
I'm working on an ASP.NET4.0/C# application for a public site that needs to authenticate only the employees that work at the associated business. The idea is for the site to have a CMS such that employees can go in and make changes to certain content without having to work with any html.
My question relates to the design and use of a ASP.NET membership provider. I'm not trying to make the site work with an existing database, so there's no need to create my own MembershipProvider for that purpose. However, since each user is an employee, I want to track additional information such as name and office number. I can think of two readily apparent ways to accomplish this:
Use the default SqlMembershipProvider class. As a result, I would need to add the appropriate tables to my database and create a separate table for any "additional" information I want to store. This effectively creates a vertical partition on the user table, since I would use the asp.net-assigned userID as the primary key of the employee table as well. To retrieve the "additional" information, I could ask the provider for information about the current user and requery the database in the event I want to know anything else.
Create one table for all employee information (including login and password) and create my own custom MembershipProvider and MembershipUser classes with the functionality I desire.
I've also considered the use of profiles to store such information, however, the site will publicly contain employee listings, and these pages will need to access some of this information. As a result, I should probably cache this data and it seems like using the serialized fields that profiles provide would cause a problem.
Thus, purely in regards to design... would it be best to make a distinction between a user and an employee and use the default SqlMembershipProvider and associated tables, or write my own user tables that store the information I need and my own MembershipProvider for accessing that information?
If I understand your question correctly, you'd like to store additional user info within the ASP.NET Membership. I've created a number of sites using the following setup.
Install the default .NET Membership using the aspnet_regsql.exe tool
Create a UserProfile table with a uniqueidentifier (PK) UserID column that is linked via a foreign key to the aspnet_Users table
To access that information, all you need is the UserId of a particular User, then you can query your custom table for more information.
Microsoft has written an excellent post on how to do this.
Good luck!
M
I am doing something similar, using your option 1. Works great for me.
My business logic has some functions for mutating users. It knows when to touch my users table or the Membership functionality.
Using a custom MembershipProvider for this sort of thing will give you more work than you bargained for.
SQL Table profile provider (http://weblogs.asp.net/scottgu/archive/2006/01/10/435038.aspx ) will help you do just that.
You will get the power of the Profiles and on the same time not worry about caching or serialization since this provider stores the profile information in clear database table without any serialization. You can use them directly in your queries.