I have been working on a little photo slider. It looks slightly different in Chrome than in FF so I thought a CSS reset would make them both look the same. I used the Yahoo! YUI CSS reset model but nothing changed. It looks good in FF but in Chrome the "Resume" button on the right side sticks up too high and a thin gray line at the bottom of the big pictures gets cut off where the main buttons are located. Here is the URL:
http://www.replayground.com/slider/02.html
You can ignore the stuff below the circles. Just testing stuff down there.
Here is what I added to my 02.html file:
<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="http://yui.yahooapis.com/2.9.0/build/reset/reset-min.css">
I'd really like advice on how to get CSS Reset working correctly. Not how to fix the specific buttons problem you see. As I add elements to the page I don't want to have to go through this each time.
A CSS reset is not designed to make all the rest of CSS cross-browser. It is designed to set all of the client default rules on all the different browsers to the same thing so that you are always working from a predictable set of CSS rules. How the browsers interpret those rules is still specific to each one.
In your case, you still need to figure out how to write CSS rules that operate the same in both Chrome and FF - the reset simply levels your starting point a little, it doesn't remove the browser rendering differences.
You may find a cross browser CSS framework (e.g. blueprintcss.org or 960.gs) to be more helpful for your current situation. They often use a reset, but also have rules that compensate for the differences in the rendering of the after-reset CSS rules.
jball is very right about the resets. They just allow you to start with a blank page, but you should still write a proper document structure and good CSS to get good and consistent results.
In your case, all elements in your page are loose in the page. This will give you trouble in the end. Some things will shift a few pixels, especially when you don't specify exact height for every item. Fonts are rendered in different heights by each browser. These may be tenths of pixes, but when they get rounded, your website is a little off between browsers.
When you use a little deeper nesting of elements, you can make better use of positioning elements (relative and absolute). If you put in a specific div for the header, and give it a fixed size, you can position each element in there very precisely, which is especially handy for headers and menu's.
I took the liberty of creating a small example, which shows just some basics of positioning. It is not perfect and uses brightly colored borders instead of images for the layout. But it's just for showing the element nesting and absolute and relative positioning, along with a negative margin trick.
http://jsfiddle.net/YwCxQ/3/
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I have a responsive Drupal Zen subtheme that I hacked together about a year & a half ago from some CSS & HTML that a non-Drupal designer handed off to me for my website. I've known that in certain layouts, it is buggy, and needs to be fixed, but I just haven't gotten around to it. After repeatedly reaching out to a local Drupal developer (and offering to pay him), I've gotten tired of waiting, and just need to fix this thing.
My bounce rate for folks on mobile devices is awful.
The URL is http://developcents.com. The homepage looks decent on any device. Internal pages need a lot of help, though, when viewed in certain screen sizes (including mobile devices). Let's use http://developcents.com/blog as an example.
In the below scenario, my question is not how to find the CSS files themselves. Rather, my question is, how can I find the necessary CSS settings using Firebug Lite, so that I can debug the CSS through my browser, instead of having to manually update each CSS file every time I want to test a change?
I can't find the actual CSS-styled divs, blocks, etc... causing the layout to break under certain dimensions. I know how to find, and edit, the CSS within the CSS panel, but I can't track down the specific CSS in this instance.
Additionally, as a secondary question, if you want to provide pointers on what I actually need to change, then please be my guest! But if you point me in the right direction on how I can go figure it out myself, that's fine too. :)
Let's get on to the scenario (which you can easily see by testing it yourself):
When I resize my browser window down to a certain size, the links & tweets section in the left sidebar move over to the right, so that the left side of the navbar aligns with the right side of the header area, while the content spans the full width of the page, except for the left margin, which stays in place but gets wider. Basically everything below the header gets screwed up, and it's easier to see the problems than explain them (so go test it).
Using Firebug Lite in Chrome, I can't seem to find the left margin for the "main" content area (see this screenshot clearly indicating the yellow margin), nor can I find the CSS for the navbar / tweets block (which I presume is some sort of float).
To modify the CSS within Firebug or Firebug Lite just select an element inside the HTML panel or inspect it via its inspector. Inside the Style side panel you'll see all CSS rules applying to the element.
Clicking the name or the value of a CSS property opens an inline editor to allow editing it.
On the right side of each rule you'll see the name of the style sheet, which contains the rule. Hovering it displays you the full URL and clicking it allows you to inspect it within the CSS panel.
You can also edit the styles directly within the CSS panel, which lists all style sheets available on the page.
Note: The changes you do there are not permament, i.e. on the next page reload they are gone! To make permanent changes you need to edit the files on the server.
Also note that I'm referring to the panels within Firebug. The panels within Firebug Lite basically work the same, though may look and work a little bit different. Furthermore Firebug Lite is not maintained anymore, so there's no guarantee that everything is working as expected.
I'm going nuts on this, I can't figure out what causes the margins of the right sidebar gallery images to be rendered differently on opera browser. More specifically the bottom margin of the images seems to be doubled in every other common browser, its set to 2px and only opera displays it as 2 px.
This is the url - http://www.roxopolis.de/media See screenshots here.
Please help me out with this, I don't care too much about the fact that its displayed differently but it exposes a bit of the following gallery images which are supposed to remain hidden so thats what bothers me. If there is another way to hide the following images (which are placed by widget) that'd be fine too. Maybe setting the margin conditionally for opera?
I've had a quick look at the page in Dragonfly as well as Chrome's inspector for comparison and no particular style, including inherited ones, strikes me as "causing" this issue. Maybe someone else can find something, but at a glance, I'd say Opera seems to be "doing the right thing".
You might have more control over the spacing if you put each anchor tag along with its respective image inside its own container and tried to style those (e.g. a div containing the anchor containing the image for each item, and float them left within the parent container div).
Is there a particular reason you have more images than you want to display? I don't see any controls to scroll the images on that page, so I'm not sure why you need to have more than the six images you're showing already. Surely if you have code somewhere that randomises the order, you can change it so that it only displays the first six images.
Also, have you tried breaking the problem down to a smaller use case that can be tested/tweaked in a jsfiddle? That may help to get to the bottom of your issue if you can't solve it using the above suggestion.
I just spent an hour troubleshooting an issue I had were all my paragraph elements were shifted down.
This happened after I moved the design from jsfiddle.net to my web host.
I killed an hour before I finally realized I needed to insert
p{margin:0px;}
and all was well...well still off by 1px;
Questions:
Why did this error not occur in jsfiddle.net?
Why does FF CSS Debugger not let me know that there is a margin in there or where it came from. I don't know what is was set to but it was not 0px;
I'm trying to learn from "my mistakes" so I can know what to expect next time.
Web browsers set their own default values for rendering HTML elements. This includes margins, paddings, font sizes etc. When you create a HTML document with no CSS you can see lists, paragraphs and headings are formatted in a default way.
Debuggers tend to show the values that you have applied to the document in your CSS.
To get around these sorts of inconsistencies (browsers use different defaults) some people use a 'reset' CSS file that removes this behaviour by setting as much as possible to 0.
Take a look at http://meyerweb.com/eric/tools/css/reset/
Everyone knows that there are problems with the float CSS property: there are text jogs in some browsers, you have to clear them to pull parent elements around a floated div, etc.
Let's assume I build a layout and float everything, and I'm careful to control for the browser-specific bugs. Are there disadvantage to using float for everything? Will the page take longer to render, or is there a better practice?
I'm trying to improve my CSS layout building technique.
#kevin; float is not a bad practice; it depends on how you are using it & what the needs of the design are. There is no need to use it on everything when there is no need & it comes from experience.
Every browser renders float correctly.
yes if you use clear:both in your markup like this
<div style="clear:both"></div>
it's increase your markup which increase your page loading time.
. SO, use overflow:hidden in your css to clear it.
Floating everything can make for a great deal of inconsistency; depending on how wide a screen is and how tall certain elements are rendered, you can end up with a hodgepodge of screen jag.
For example, widening the screen would cause more elements to fit on the top line, so they would jump up. Items not in the top line will slide down, and then catch on the corner of an element slightly taller than everything before it.
Float is a handy tool, but it's no panacea; use with caution. Make yourself a sandbox site, and use something like Chrome's developer tools, or Firefox w/ Firebug to see what results you get when floating it all.
I dislike using floats because of these clearing issues. I generally use display:inline-block, and for my IE6/7 stylesheet for the same rules, I put zoom:1; display:inline
With inline-block, block elements flow like inline elements, while behaving like blocks. This I feel is more intuitive than breaking out of the flow like floats do.
I use this kind of layout on my twitter client: https://timshomepage.net/twitter
And here's the uncompressed stylesheet: https://static.timshomepage.net/css/twitter.css
Working on a rather small, and simple layout, I decided to use Meyer's CSS Reset rules to clear some of the expected discrepancies between browsers. All was working fairly well until I decided to add a few paragraphs into a couple nested divs.
Once I placed the paragraph-tags within the second nested div, the background images of both the parent, and the grant parent divs vanished in IE7.
Removing the paragraph tags (and going with untagged-text) returns the background images. Additionally, leaving the tags and removing reference to the reset.css file restores the background images.
Obviously I don't want to go with either of those routes to solve this issue. Any CSS gurus here know what is taking place?
Demo: http://www.sampsonresume.com/projects/patriot-depot/
It looks like a version of the disappearing content bug in IE.
Add zoom:1 to div.pd_horiz_content and div.pd_horiz_content_b. That will invoke 'hasLayout' in IE and your background will show up.
You can also invoke hasLayout by adding a dimension (width:960px) to the divs. This would probably make more sense in your case since your divs have a fixed width based on the background images.
Oddly enough, when I remove the following rule from the reset.css file, the issue is resolved:
background:transparent
This rule is applied to the first large block of matched elements, so I'm not sure the implications it will have in the long run. Hopefully there's a better solution, as I'm a little uneasy about editing Meyers' reset.css in order to "fix" my problem.