I have a web application where forms authentication is used. The user names are the same that the ones used by the users in their computers, so they want the web app to be able to detect that user name so the app can log it the user automatically.
How can it be done? I mean, if I set the authentication mode to "Form" do I still get those credentials from IIS?
I know this can be done in several better ways than this, but I am interested in this particular way. As it is a small web app in an intranet with a few users doesn't worth it a big architectural change. If it's possible, happy days, otherwise it will have to wait.
Cheers.
That cannot be done with Forms Authentication. Without prompting the client for credentials, there is no way to retrieve that information from the client's machine.
Windows auth cannot coexists with Forms auth, but it can coexists with Anonymous auth.
More info here: Windows authentication is not challenging browsers out of the domain
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First off--thanks for having a look.
MY QUESTION
In a .NET web app, is using Windows Authentication for a extra-net on a WAN consisting of various users, companies, user-agents, etc a bad idea?
BACKGROUND
I am lead dev on a fast track (very fast) web application for an extra-net that will allow the client's vendors, suppliers, partners, etc to log on and push and pull certain assets such as image files, videos, flash files, etc.
PLATFORM/TECHNOLOGY
Asp.Net 4.0, C#, MVC3
PROBLEM (Maybe)
The client's IT department has requested that the app use Windows Authentication to authenticate users. One of the reasons for this (they say) is that the assets that will be pushed/pulled by users reside on a third-party server (Signiant) which already uses credentials form their active directory to authenticate users.
MY VIEW
Windows Authentication is going to cause a bunch of headaches. Viewed as a stack, this app will sit on top of the third-party server. So if we use Forms authentication, we can just populate a data table with windows credentials for each user and pass those to Signiant's servers with our requests (you have to do this anyway). If possible, we can even make an LDAP call for the creds on the fly and then pass those to Signiant's servers.
It just seems to me that simple functionality such as "lost password" would be come extremely difficult if we are doing the Windows Auth thing. But, full disclosure, I have never built an Asp.Net app using Windows Authentication so what do I know??
Thanks!
Matt
UPDATE 8/12/11
I still don't have an answer as to whether you should do this, but the client is adamant that it must be this way. The app is supposed to be turned over in a month so I will come back and let any followers of this topic know my findings.
ASP.NET has built in support for doing AD Authentication using Forms Authentication, including password recovery.
See: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ff650308.aspx
Its not an original question. There is already a batch of articles describing this problem and solution for it. They all are dated back to times of .Net Framework 1.1 and IIS 6.0 and are not really helping with all the membership and role providers stuff we have nowadays. But lets get closer to the problem.
The problem is short.
You have an intranet site using Windows authentication and it works just fine. All you want is to give access to this site to users from their homes and to users who don`t have Windows based workstation.
Duplicate the whole site would be cumbersome because all the application except Login part would work well just if appropriate information would be saved in cookie on Login step.
You are welcome with any suggestions.
You don't say if internal users are authenticated or not, so, as it's an intranet I'm going to assume they are, via integrated authentication.
The simplest way would be to leave it as is, and turn on digest authentication if you are in a domain environment in addition to integrated authentication - this would prompt users not on the intranet with a username/password popup and they can login with their domain credentials.
If you don't have a domain - then how is it an intranet site? How are users authenticated? If you're in a workgroup scenario, where users have login details on their own box, and login details on the intranet server (in which case moving to AD would be better all round - no need to keep the passwords in sync, or deactivate user accounts in multiple places when people leave) then mixing Integrated authentication with Basic Authentication would do the same thing - however if you're going to use Basic Authentication then you will need to add an SSL certificate to the site to stop usernames and passswords being sniffed - Basic Authentication sends them in plain text.
Well, what you could consider is if you can use Active Directory, there is a provider to use the AD store for security, that would work for both.
HTH.
This will probably turn out to be a doozie.
I'm developing an application in ASP.NET to be put on our company's intranet site. I've been handed a specification in regards to security and have no idea how to do it.
First part: The application is to use Windows Authentication. This part seems easy enough; I opened IIS in Administrative Tools, right clicked the node of my website, properties and checked 'Integrate Windows Authentication'. However, I have no idea how I will govern which people have access to my site. I'm thinking this should be taken care of at the database level. This is Q#1
Second part -- I have to implement a process for the following scenario: User 'Jane' can log in to our network, but does not have rights to my application. User 'Bob' does have rights to use my application. Bob needs to be able to sit at Jane's computer (under her network account), but be able to enter his credentials into my application and use it (even though Jane is logged into the local machine and network). This is Q#2
Any help, general direction, or advice would be appreciated. The winning lottery numbers would be appreciated even more.
Thanks,
Jason
You're looking for Windows Authentication and Authorization in ASP.NET
How To Use Windows Auth in ASP.NET
Authentication/Authorization Explained
How To Implement Windows Auth in ASP.NET
Part 2...you're right, that's tough. You'll need to roll your own custom security provider.
You'll have a login page, then check that against Active Directory yourself. From MSDN
ASP.NET also supports custom solutions
for using Windows authentication,
which bypasses IIS authentication. For
example, you can write a custom ISAPI
filter that checks the user's
credentials against Active Directory.
With this approach you must manually
create a WindowsPrincipal object.
You've got requirements around authentication and authorization here.
Authentication: The act of confirming identity
Authorization: The act of correlating an identity to a privilege (eg Read/Write/Delete)
Windows Authentication is useful if you want "auto-signon" capability. The site will "know" the user by ID without them having to sign in.
The need for users to login from multiple locations means that you must implement a login page. This would fulfill your requirement in which one user may sit at another's workstation and log in.
You will want to authenticate users against the Windows domain. This can be done with a custom membership provider. Here's a walkthrough:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms180890(v=vs.80).aspx
This will allow you to present a login page that will authenticate users with their domain username and password. This will authenticate users- the identity of the user will be stored in the HttpContext.User. You can then also maintain a user list in a database to store authorization data.
Also found this -- a pretty good resource for anybody out there who's in the same boat:
Mixing Forms and Windows Security in ASP.NET
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms972958.aspx
I'm looking for a way to pass some sort of credentials or Authorization token from a VB.Net Client to an ASP.Net web application that allows the Client to auto-login to our Forms-Authenticated website. If a user is logged into a local application, I want them to be able to view some web pages without having to login to the website as well. The credentials are not the same between the apps, but I would just like to pass some sort of encrypted token or key to the web page so I know they are coming from the desktop application. Is this possible without requiring a username and password login?
I also need to make sure this URL that is used cannot be simply copied and used from another location, so I'll need to include some sort of information in the encrypted value to know where it's coming from.
I know how to login the user with Forms Authentication and all that, just need to figure out the best way to secure this. Thanks!
OAuth is commonly used to allow desktop applications to access a user's private data on a web site. Since you're using .NET, I suggest you check out DotNetOpenAuth which includes sample OAuth web sites and client applications. It allows for this secure token to be passed that can tell your web site that the desktop app is the one making the requests and (usually) whose data is being accessed.
The best part about the OAuth solution is your desktop app never has to ask for the user's credentials. No credentials are in the URL. And if the desktop application is ever compromised (perhaps by the computer being stolen), the web site can kill the secure token the desktop app was using to cut off access without requiring the user to change their password.
You might want to look into issuing client-side certificates for these applications. Basically, you generate a certificate that you install with the client application and then on the server side, you check the ClientCertificate property of the HttpRequest instance exposed by the Request property on the current context.
Note that what you are doing is really a very bad idea, in that applications should never be assigned identity, only users. To that end, you should be authenticating each and every user that is using your app, not considering the application to be the identity. It's commonly considered a bad practice to do such a thing.
You can share credentials between the applications using ASP.NET Client Application Services.
Here are some resources:
Client Application Services
Client Application Services with Visual Studio 2008
Is your desktop app running on machines that are in the same domain as your web server (i.e. all in the same company)? If so, Integrated Windows Authentication is your easiest solution.
I think its best idea to use a web browser control inside the desktop application .
Then use the WebBrowser1.Document most probably
WebBrowser1.Document.Cookie
get if the user is singed in.
I also need to make sure this URL that
is used cannot be simply copied and
used from another location, so I'll
need to include some sort of
information in the encrypted value to
know where it's coming from.
If you store the encrypted value in a cookie or as a field in a form (POST request), then the credential is no longer in the URL and so it can't be easily copied (note that I said "easily").
I am in the process of writing an application that will need multiple forms of authentication.
The application will need to support authentication to Active Directory, but be able to fail back to a SQL Membership Provider if the user is not in Active Directory. We can handle the failing to the SQL Provider in code based on the username provided because the username will be a different format than the Active Directory username.
Is this even possible? What I mean is, can I use membership and use both ActiveDirectoryMembershipProvider and SqlMembershipProvider together or will I have to roll my own?
Another additional added complexity is that I would like to automatically authenticate my internal users based of Windows Authentication back to AD, but use Forms Authentication for users not on our internal network, or users that are using the SQL Provider.
These will most likely be separate servers, one internal, and the other external so I have a lot of planning to do to figure out the data replication, and how I will authenticate the AD users if they hit the outside server etc.
I am wondering what thoughts are out there as I start down this road. Is what I am wanting to do even possible without me rolling my own, or is there a way to mesh these together?
Thanks for the reply.
The reason I asked originally was because I was able to get this specific senerio working about 7 years ago using IIS to authenticate and then passing back the credentials to a Lotus Domino Server Web App. If the user was not authenticated via the Windows Authentication/ISS then Domino would handle the authentication. This was what I was looking to do here, but really couldn't think of a way to make it work in IIS.
As for the rest of your reply, I think you are on to the way that I will need to take. I have thought this through and tossed it around in my head a lot. The application will be somewhat different on the two servers anyway since there is going to be limited access to the data on the external server anyway. The fact that so much is going to be different already I may just treat these as two applications, thus negating the need to use two types of authentication in the same application anyway.
I am playing around with the idea already of writing my own authentication/login window for the external server, and if the user trys to log in with their AD credentials on the external server I will be able to detect that and redirect them to the internal server. If they are not on the local network or VPN'd in they will simply not get access. This part still has some thought process to go though so I am not sure.
As an additional thought - is there a way to pull just enough of AD into a SQL database to allow me to authenticate users to the SQL database from the external server using their AD credentials, without creating any security issues? I hope I am clearly typing what I am thinking....
Thanks again!
Tim
This is the way I've handled a similar situation based on this info:
Configured the application to use Forms authentication.
Set the LoginUrl to a page called WinLogin.aspx.
In WinLogin.aspx, use Request.ServerVariables["LOGON_USER"] to get the username then call FormsAuthentication.RedirectFromLoginPage( authorizedUserName, false ) to log them in. I guess you can manually check Active Directory as this point as well.
Create an html page that redirects to a page called Login.aspx
Login.aspx is your standard username/password login.
In IIS, Enable Integrated Authentication and Anonymous on the entire site, but deny anonymous access to WinLogin.aspx.
In IIS, set your 401 errors to the page created in step 3.
What basically happens is that when an unauthenicated user hits the site, they're redirected to WinLogin.aspx. Since anonymous is turned off, integrated security makes a check. If that passes, your custom code in WinLogin can run. If the integrated security check fails, a 401 error occurs. Your custom 401 page redirects to Login.aspx where the user can log in using their username and password with the SQL provider.
As far as I know, Web Applications are configured to use either Windows Authentication or Forms Authentication, but not both. Therefore, I do not believe it is possible to automatically authenticate internal users while requiring others to enter a username / password.
You could authenticate to Active Directory or a SQL user store via Forms authentication by using a custom provider. However, the AD users would still need to enter their username and password. Although I've never combined these two methods, I have used Forms authentication to authenticate against both sources at one time or another.
With that said, I think you may want to consider reducing the "flexibility" of your system. If you have an external facing server and an internal facing server, you could simply change the provider configuration on each copy of the application to go against a different source. Then, you could configure the internal one to use Windows (automatic) authentication and the external one to use Forms authentication.
IMHO, I believe that internal users should not be using the external server to access the application. If they are, they should have a user account stored in SQL, completely separated from their AD account. Basically, when someone accesses the application externally, they are acting as an external user, irregardless of their physical location.
Well, it is possible to use ActiveDirectoryMembershipProvider and SqlMembershipProvider, but this requires you design your log on page with your own code instead of the Login controls.
About the mix authentication (Windows and Forms), as far as I know only IIS 7 makes it easy and clean. See this post for details,
http://mvolo.com/blogs/serverside/archive/2008/02/11/IIS-7.0-Two_2D00_Level-Authentication-with-Forms-Authentication-and-Windows-Authentication.aspx