I deployed an ASP.net web site to two servers and put them behind the load balanced environment. Now that problem is that the performance is really slow. Even for just simple button event, it takes long time to finish the simple button event. However, if I access the site separately (by its server’s address), performance is good. What our system engineer told me was that the application handles session state in process as if it runs on only one server, it could not handle clustering. So, he suggested that I should use the session object in the code to store the session in SQL server, or cookie.
I am currently using session variables to store the session.
I am kind of a new to ASP.net and I am not sure exactly what this mean and how I can accomplish this in my .net code (C#)?
Thanks.
Here is a good link to start you off: ASP.NET Session State
You would probably want to go with the Out of process mode where the servers all access 1 session process on a designated server, if speed is your top priority or SQL Server mode where all servers access 1 database if reliability is your top priority as with out of process mode if the process dies your session data is lost similar to how in-process session handling works.
No coding changes for storing session data would be needed, just the initial configuration of the environment and a web.config change.
First off, you need to configure sessionstate in your web.config for what you want to do. Here is a step by step tutorial on storing sessionstate in sql server. Hope it helps!
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/317604
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Since we have moved to azure, we have numerous session lost issues only on production.
We have InProc, cookie based, sticky session, large timeout, no high traffic and no high memory/process usage.
We use HAProxy as loadbalancer.
I have done basic research and none of the following seems to be the cause:
session timeout
application pool settings/recycling
memory size and usage thresholds
no eaten exceptions
there is no changes to file system to cause a restart
I'm particularly more suspicious about how loadbalancer/ssl and application work together and if http headers are fine, but I don't know any tools to really monitor that.
I'm assigned to find a solution at the same time I have no privilege to access the machines.
Logs(Log4Net) are all stored in database but doesn't help to give a clear understanding of what is going on the system and cannot follow a user session using them.
I'm allowed to find the problem by adding required logs to code or to develop some kind of monitoring module or to use profiling/debugging tools.
Only once a month there will be a production deployment so I'm trying to use the opportunity as best as possible.
Question:
Is there any useful monitoring/profiling tool that can give me a clear view of what is happening in the system by aggregating information I may need? for example following a user/session between requests from time of login until session drop plus information about headers and other system application parameters.
if there is not such a tool out there, please give me your ideas to write one?
This is a common issue in load balanced environment. As mentioned in this answer for a similar question,
InProc mode, which stores session state in memory on the Web server. Which means that session data is maintained inside your web server on a given VM and is not shared outside of the VM. So when you have multiple server for load balancing, the session state isn't shared with each other. To solve this, you must store your session state external to the web server.
Use Redis, or SQL Database, or something else.
The ASP.NET SQL SessionState provider seems excessive for my requirements. SQL Server has to be 'configured' to support it and I have questions about how optimized it is (i.e. is there one db hit to fetch the whole session or one for every session item requested?).
I think I could implement a custom solution very easily that I would understand and easily redeploy to other projects. Is there something fundamental I haven't considered here and an obvious reason why the built in SessionState handler is the 'best' way to go?
Just to clarify, our applications run on single servers at the moment. My main motivation for doing this is to enable Session to persist across IIS restarts and therefore provide more reliability for users.
you could use StateServer mode.
StateServer mode stores session state in a process, referred to as the ASP.NET state service, that is separate from the ASP.NET worker process or IIS application pool.
Using this mode ensures that session state is preserved if the Web application is restarted and also makes session state available to multiple Web servers in a Web farm.
more info at http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms178586.aspx
It takes just minutes to setup SQL session state server (assuming you have SQL server already running). I can't imagine that you can write anything in less time than it would take to at least try out what already exists and is free and supported by MS.
A proven, built-in/off-the-shelf solution is always better place to start than custom. You may still end up with a custom solution, but don't pick it because you didn't bother to test what is already available to you.
We have an MVC web app that uses FormsAuthentication and also stores a couple of variables in Session variables. We've encountered a few situations lately where the session variables are lost, but the user is still logged in. A quick Google lead me to a few SO articles mentioning that In Proc Session State is regularly lost and that if we require it to persist, we should consider moving to a non In Proc solution.
Coming from a classic ASP background, where we relied on Session state for the lifetime of the session, it seems a bit baffling that I now can't rely on it at all. Surely In Proc Session State is of no value to anyone if it can be lost at the drop of a hat? Am I missing something?
I realise that storing it in an SQL server has it's benefits, but for small webapps with little traffic, In Proc is an ideal solution, could it be relied upon.
ASP.NET session state is able to run in a separate process from the ASP.NET host process. If session state is in a separate process, the ASP.NET process can come and go while the session state process remains available. Of course, you can still use session state in process similar to classic ASP, too.
You don’t have to use SQL server to store session data in out of process, you can use out of process state server which can be in memory on the same server as the web server.
You can read more about how to configure out of process session state under http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms972429.aspx
As far as i know in-proc sessions state is lost after recompiling application and recycling application pool. App pool could be recycled if there is not enough memory or it's have regular restart time interval.
Site hosted via IIS 7.0
I would like to set my session time-out to 9 hours in my ASP.NET application.
This has been set at web.config
<sessionState timeout="540"></sessionState>
But, as I understand, if the timeout is set as 20 minutes inside the IIS where the website is hosted, setting an extended session state will be of no use.
Firstly, I would like to confirm whether this assumption is right.
The problem is that I do not have access to the IIS of my shared hosted web server.
Now, after some research, I came up with another solution in code project. This sounds like a wonderful idea. The idea is to insert an iframe to master page. The iframe will contain another page with meta refresh less than 20 minutes.
Response.AddHeader("Refresh", "20");
This idea seemed good for me. But the article is 7 years old. Plus at comments section a user complaints that this won't work if the page is minimized and I am worried that the same happens when my pages tab is not active.
I would like to know these things
Whether the refresh method will work for my scenario , even if the page is minimized?
Are there any other methods that could increase session time out that overrides IIS timeout setting?
Also I read some questions in Stack Overflow where the answers state that the IIS session timeout is for clasic ASP pages. Then why is not my extended timeout not firing?
Firstly, I would like to confirm whether this assumption is right.
Yes, this assumption is absolutely right in case you are using in-memory session state mode. In this case the session is stored in memory and since IIS could tear down the AppDomain under different circumstances (period of inactivity, CPU/memory tresholds are reached, ...) the session data will be lost. You could use an out-of-process session state mode. Either StateServer or SQLServer. In the first case the session is stored in the memory of a special dedicated machine running the aspstate Windows service and in the second case it is a dedicated SQL Server. The SQL Server is the most robust but obviously the slowest.
1) Whether the refresh method will work for my scenario , even if the page is minimized?
The hidden iframe still works to maintain the session alive but as I said previously there might be some conditions when IIS unloads the application anyway (CPU/memory tresholds are reached => you could configure this in IIS as well).
2) Are there any other methods that could increase session time out that overrides IIS timeout setting?
The previous method doesn't increase the session timeout. It simply maintains the session alive by sending HTTP requests to the server at regular intervals to prevent IIS from bringing the AppDomain down.
3) Also I read some questions in Stack Overflow where the answers state
that the IIS session timeout is for clasic ASP pages. Then why is not
my extended timeout not firing?
There is no such thing as IIS session timeout. The session is an ASP.NET artifact. IIS is a web server that doesn't know anything about sessions.
Personally I don't use sessions in my applications. I simply disable them:
<sessionState mode="Off"></sessionState>
and use standard HTTP artifacts such as cookies, query string parameters, ... to maintain state. I prefer to persist information in my backend and retrieving it later using unique ids instead of relying on sessions.
I have an iframe keep alive (iframe that hits a page, defibrillator.aspx, on my site every few minutes to keep the session alive) on my masterpage for an asp.net app. This works most of the time but every so often my session variables return null during the page load on my defibrillator page. At first, I thought the session was being timed out by the server for some reason so I put some logging into the Session_End event in the global.asax but it was never hit.
Any ideas what could cause the session to be lost.
Many things can cause session to be lost. An AppPool recycle, iisreset, the client could lose its session cookie, etc. Without knowing more it is difficult to tell what is the problem.
If session is so critical that you poll the application to keep the worker process from sleeping perhaps you ought to look into persisting your session state to SQL Server.
Peter Bromberg outlines the primary reasons for ASP.NET session timeouts on his blog.
I had this same sort of problem, storing a shopping cart state in Session but having it randomly return null instead. I think I found the answer on Bertrand Le Roy's blog, which seems to work for me:
Session loss problems can also result
from a misconfigured application pool.
For example, if the application pool
your site is running is configured as
a web farm or a web garden (by setting
the maximum number of worker processes
to more than one), and if you're not
using the session service or SQL
sessions, incoming requests will
unpredictably go to one of the worker
processes, and if it's not the one the
session was created on, it's lost. The
solutions to this problem is either
not to use a web garden if you don't
need the performance boost, or use one
of the out of process session
providers.
Blog
If the chosen persistence mechanism is InProc then it can be triggered by many things. Totally counter-recommended for a production environment.