Currently, we have many web applications (external & internal) developed using Classic ASP through .NET 2.0 technologies. Each of those web applications have their own login screen authenticating against their own custom database or using Windows authentication. Users have access to one or more of these applications, meaning they have to log out and log back into applications that they would like to access. All applications share some part of the back-end data sources. Also, the business logic is embedded in the UI in addition to being duplicated across applications because there is no code/business logic sharing. Screenshot #1 gives a brief idea of the existing architecture.
Screenshot #2 shows the suggested architecture, which I hope will help in faster development, code/business re-usability and may be simpler maintenance. Users will access either external or internal url. In external, users will provide credentials and will be authenticated against custom database. In internal site, users will be automatically logged in using Windows authentication. After creating some samples, I have begun to like ASP.NET MVC 3. It keeps business logic separate from UI and I also like the unit testing capabilities.
Here are my questions:
Based on what I have found on the web so far, multiple authentications are not feasible within a single website. My understanding is that I have to host one website for each type of authentication (Forms and Windows). How do I redirect users to common landing page after they are authenticated so they can see the modules (links/menus) that they are authorized to access? Should I have to publish the same code set (dlls and content) to both the websites?
Has anyone faced a similar architecture problem? If yes, could you please share the challenges that you faced and how you tackled them? What are the industry standards in designing applications of this sort?
Does the suggested architecture make any sense or is it a really bad design? Are there any drawbacks in doing this in ASP.NET MVC 3?
I would really appreciate your inputs.
Thanks in advance.
I would set up a seperate web site which only handles the windows authentication. I would then rely on something like OpenID and/or OAuth to ask for credentials/token to make sure to user has proper access.
The user that want to sign in using windows credentials go through that process because you are right in that a IIS server running windows authentication is hard to mix with other stuff.
You can set up some kind of claim based network of thrust in which you applications get thier credentials from trusted sources and through that process you can negotiate and control access privileges cross many web sites. As long as your not doing custom hosting or white label branding you can have everything in one place (or even if you did you could design it so that you have a central solution of handing out authentication tokens).
Keep in mind the difference between Authentication and Authorization. You presumably want a single authentication mechanism (or maybe two, one for internal and one for external users). There is a similar post here that lays out some pretty good guidelines: How to allow multiple authentication methods in ASP.NET?
On one project we built a common controller class used in every page of the site. It handled authentication and access control. When a user tried to access any page it checked to see if they had a session identification cookie. If they did not they were required to authenticate(login). A challenge was doing a good implementation of the security. Current browsers have many flaws that make this difficult.
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I need all your inputs for a use case with SSO implementation. Let me explain you my use case. I have couple of applications which written way back in 2004 – 2005 with ASP.NET, C#, SQL etc.. and uses ASP.NET cookie based Form Authentication to maintain the SSO between these web applications. It is working great and no issues so far. Now in early 2015, we are in the initial stage of building next generation application using HTML5, Angular JS & Web API which should work in all platforms & devices. So we decided to move with JWT Token based authentication in the new applications to maintain the SSO between. But the curtail use case pitch in now that is, the new set of application also should allow user to go back to their old applications by not asking any login information ( eventually, SSO between new applications vs old application). Since both uses different way of authentication, it is not going to be a straight forward implementation (My guess ).
Would any of you come across such situation before? Any suggestions?. Advance thanks for all of you.!!
The latest version of ASP.NET includes the new authentication framework ASP.NET Identity, which should be the core building block for user management in all new and near future ASP.NET projects and websites.
I have seen that it can integrate with the WebAPI quite nicely, but haven't seen any example of integration as authentication for mobile client devices. For example - suppose I have a ASP.NET website with Identity implemented in use. Now I want to build client applications for Windows 8.1 and Windows Phone 8. I see two main issues that are limiting this.
Firstly - ASP.NET Identity apparently issues only short-lived auth. tokens, which is quite a bad user experience for mobile applications. I have seen some attempts to create a refresh token mechanism - http://leastprivilege.com/2013/11/15/adding-refresh-tokens-to-a-web-api-v2-authorization-server/ . This is quite a nice approach, but it would still be more interesting to see a really built in solution.
Second - and maybe more important - external authentication provider support. On the ASP.NET Identity website it is quite clear and easy to see a way to authenticate via WebAPI, but I haven't seen this in use with external authentication. How is it possible to get the authentication URLs for Facebook, Microsoft and Twitter and how can the authentication flow be completed from within the app?
Has anyone some experience with this? It would be great to find a complete walkthrough, I will gladly reward the correct solution with some bounty points :-) .
The problem is that security is complicated and that Microsoft's solutions only address the simple scenarios.
Also, you're consing terminology (which increases everyone's confusion, including your own). ASP.NET Identity manages users' credentials stored in a database. It's unrelated to the type of application that needs to validate credentials (mobile, api, browser, desktop, etc).
Katana middleware is what allows an application to authenticate the caller. There's cookie middleware for browser applications, external middleware for google, facebook, WS-Fed, etc, and then there's OAuth2 for API applications. Each work differently based upon the nature of the application. Some of them interact as well, depending on the requirements of the application.
I don't mean to pick on you -- this is more of a complaint about Microsoft's lack of education/documentation in the frameworks they provide. And I suppose this is an answer to your question -- Microsoft doesn't have what you're asking for. They have bits and pieces, but you're left to connect the dots.
Some links that might help:
http://www.asp.net/identity
http://www.asp.net/web-api/overview/security
http://www.asp.net/vnext/overview/authentication
http://brockallen.com/category/owin-katana/
http://leastprivilege.com/category/katana/
http://leastprivilege.com/category/webapi/
HTH
I need to implement a SSO between a custom Asp.Net application and a SharePoint site. The asp .net Application has custom authentication and the sharepoint has windows authentication. I have already read about using forms authentication in both applications but i can not use forms authentication in Sharepoint.
Is this possible? Any tips and tricks?
Zorro,
Sharing a Forms Based Authentication (FBA) authorization cookie would be one of the cheaper and easier routes to investigate/implement, but you've indicated that FBA isn't an option for you. That said ...
... without knowing more about the custom authentication mechanism you have in place on your ASP.NET application, it's very difficult to offer a good suggestion. CptSkippy's question (regarding reconciliation) is a good one, as that becomes the basis for what's feasible and what isn't. If your app and site don't share a common user base, then SSO becomes a real challenge.
I don't know how feasible it is for you and your situation, but Microsoft's ISA 2006 server does an admirable job when used in an SSO role. It supports a wide variety of publishing and authentication mechanisms, and it plays quite nicely with SharePoint leveraging both NTLM and Kerberos authentication:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb794722.aspx
The big question, again, is your custom ASP.NET application. If you've got some flexibility there, ISA may be a option.
For what it's worth!
Have you checked Microsoft Single Sign-On Service?
I am moving a legacy winform app to the web and would like some advice on forms authentication. Am I correct in assuming that forms authentication is better than rolling up my own user authentication functionality?
It would be easy enough to roll my own since the this is what the winform application did and the table structure already supports it, but forms authentication looks like it would do a much better job securing the site and the user authentication info.
I'm an old programmer, but pretty young in web dev and I have learned over the years that using MS built in tools sometimes looks better than it works...forms authentication isn't one of those cases is it?
Thanks!
I'd say that Forms Authentication is a case where you're likely to experience no "buyers remorse". You can opt in to use some pretty nice features. The model is very flexible because it allows you to implement your own Membership Providers.
Using forms authentication doesn't means you don't get to use those tables. You will do the check for username/password, and tell asp.net that the user is authenticated. Asp.net will continue from there, ensuring further requests from that user are identified and authenticated (based on an authentication ticket).
Update 1: Later on asp.net included membership providers, with some controls for it. Even then you can still implement your own membership provider, which in really simple cases you can do by implementing only 1 or 2 of the methods. If you have several features, and they don't map well with what the membership provider supports, I would stick to a custom implementation.
I've just been tasked with building a web application using ASP (.net) and am looking for some advice on where to start. In a nutshell the application needs to be able to.
Handle user verification / authentication
Handle sessions
Do SOAP messaging
The application is intended to act as a front end for system functions that are accessible via web service calls.
I intend to do a lot of work on the client side using JavaScript and am thinking of using ASP solely as the framework for the 3 items I listed above.
Appreciate any suggestions you may have.
Use Visual Studio 2008 if you can. Its support for Ajax client libraries and javascript intellisense is very good. (Check out the jQuery add in)
ASP.NET has built in Login controls (and the membership services mentioned by ChrisE), and also has Forms Authentication. Try to leverage these existing components and avoid using session to store user specific objects/data.
---session rant
Its sometimes unavoidable, but you should avoid it whenever you can. It incurs a burden on the webserver for each user, and that leads to some very difficult scaling problems. The FormsAuthentication Ticket has a value property that you can store about 4K worth of user data in - try to use that instead.
---End session rant
Try to use a MVC approach (not necessarily an ASP.NET MVC), but at least one that seperates your presentation / view layer from the data / model layer.
Create a default theme and use it. Most sites will need to have multiple themes later, and refactoring that will be a PIA.
If you need SOAP to interact with Non-.NET services then by all means use it. If you are only connecting to .NET services then look into WCF clients and services. They will give you more flexibility.
If you are doing the client work in javascript, then dont use the update panel. It adds lots of overhead.
Get FireFox + FireBug + YSlow, and IE8 (yeah its beta still). They will help you when dealing with the client end of debugging / styling.
Take a look at the rules for website performance, but take these with a grain of salt. They are intended for very large sites, and some of the items may not be applicable (CDN, DNS lookups, Redirects).
WCF for Soap -- I would also suggest picking this up:
alt ASP.NET 3.5 http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/518N8vYWf1L._SL500_AA240_.jpg
This book is in tutorial form -- and Jesse Liberty is a great teacher (as are his co-authors).
ASP.NET provides out of the box authentication/authorization through the SqlMembershipProvider and SqlRoleProvider classes, or you can use the ADMembershipProvider along with a custom RoleProvider to authenticate and authorize against an Active Directory setup.
Session handling is readily provided by ASP.NET as well, through an in-process server, an external StateServer service, or through a connection to SQL Server (and of course, you can provide a custom Session service if you need something different).
As Lou Franco mentioned, WCF provides the framework for the SOAP calls, and will blend in with your ASP.NET application quite handily.
If you are using ASP.NET Web Forms then for handling user authentication/verification I'd recommend ASP.NET Membership services http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/yh26yfzy.aspx because it does some of the heavy lifting for you and also helps you from making any elementary security mistakes.
This is not directly related to your requirements, but I'd suggest you study the differences between Web Site and Web Application. The sooner the better. Everything will go smoother if you understand how the project is managed.
You can start here: http://www.codersbarn.com/post/2008/06/ASPNET-Web-Site-versus-Web-Application-Project.aspx