I have an image that represents a projection. I am going to explain the problem with an example:
In the screen, there is a line from one point E(100,200) to another point
H (150,100). A represent one point
that in the real world is at 200 cm of
distance while B is a point that in
real world is at 300 cm of distance.
The thing that I would like to know is this:
Given one point of the line that passes for these two points, is there a way to calculate the z distance data that it should have?
What if the z distance is not a linear function but is some logarithmic function?
If it's not clear ask me everything,
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I think what you're getting at is perspective correct interpolation. If you know the depth at E and a depth at H, and B is on the line (in the image) joining these two points, solve for the depth at B with:
1/Zb = s * 1/Ze + (1-s) * 1/Zh
where s is the normalized distance/interpolation parameter (between 0 and 1) along the line in screen space, meaning B = s * E + (1-s) * H
Use homogeneous coordinates, which can be linearly interpolated in screen space (for depth and texture): http://www.cs.unc.edu/~olano/papers/2dh-tri/
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I have 4 points, point A(x1, y1), point B(x2, y1), and point C(x2, y2), point D(x2, y3) creating two scales: Scale1 yRange(B, D), Scale2 yRange(B, C).
I want to scale the y axis only, so that point D is scaled down to point C, so that the angle between CAB is a certain degree. Then I want to rotate the scaled point C around point B a certain degree, obtaining point E. Then I want to find the real value of point E on the un-scaled coordinate grid where original point D is located. I think I need to use affine transformations, but all examples are rotate first, then scale. But I need to scale first, then rotate. How do I find this new value? I know how to perform rotations alone and a bit of scaling alone, but not together.
Maybe I am confused, after I perform the scaling and rotation, I would not need to scale back, because the new value of E equates to F? I know there are plenty of examples, but I can not wrap my head around this...
Here is my objective. I have the 3 points A, B and D. I want to scale so that DAB equates to let's say 60 degrees, creating point C, then perform several point rotations on C inside the scaled grid. I ultimately want to find the value of F, and the other rotated points, which lies in geometrical positions inside the original unscaled grid that I can not calculate unless I scale the 3 original points to said degree first. The scaled grid contains the correct ratio I need in order to rotate my points. I need to do all my rotations inside the scaled grid, without losing values, but changing aspect ratio, and then take those new points inside the scaled grid and plot them in the unscaled grid, which will then lose correct aspect ratios, which is fine.
Coding in python.
Here's a Python3 program that I think does what you want:
import math
# Use a negative angle since we're rotating clockwise
rotate_C_angle = math.radians(-60)
A = [0, 0]
B = [100, 0]
D = [100, 250]
# Create point D such that angle CAB = target_angle_CAB
target_angle_CAB = math.radians(60)
C = [B[0], B[0] * math.tan(target_angle_CAB)]
# What do we scale B by in order to get C
scale_factor = C[1] / D[1]
# Rotate C around B by rotate_C_angle
# (translate C by -Bx, then rotate, then translate back)
E = [
C[0] - C[1] * math.sin(rotate_C_angle),
C[1] * math.cos(rotate_C_angle)
]
# Scale E back
F = [E[0], E[1] / scale_factor]
This is assuming that A is at the origin. If it isn't then subtract Ax from all the x coordinates and Ay from the y coordinates, then do the calculations before translating back again.
Whether you need to scale back E to F depends on what you're doing. What happens here assumes that the scaling transformation along y does not get rotated.
Imagine you have a grid of sample points of a function z = f(x, y) where 1 < x < N and 1 < y < N. The formula is not given, but just the raw data, that could be for example the grey level of an image.
I would like to find, given a point A, whose x and y coordinates are given (and z is known from the data, so A is a vertex of the surface) a number M of points that lie on the circumference of the circle with center in A and radius R that are a good approximation of a circular "cloth" draped on the imaginary surface described by the data points. Imagine also that the edges of the surface are a triangle mesh.
The biggest constraint in the approximation is that the sum of the length of the edges of the resulting polygon is constantly R * 2 * PI, so that moving the A point across the surface would just change the M points but never the sum of their reciprocal distances. The draping doesn't need to be perfect, it would be nice though to be as close as possible to the surface., or always on one side of the surface, above or below.
Could anybody give me a pointer to something to read about this? Is this a known problem?
I feel that the problem is not completely formulated, I'd already like some help to give a complete description of it.
Ok, I know this sounds really daft to be asking here, but it is programming related.
I'm working on a game, and I'm thinking of implementing a system that allows users to triangulate their 3D coordinates to locate something (eg for a task).
I also want to be able to let the user make the coordinates of the points they are using for triangulation have user-determined coordinates (so the location's coordinate is relative, probably by setting up a beacon or something).
I have a method in place for calculating the distance between the points, so essentially I can calculate the lengths of the sides of the triangle/pyramid as well as all but the coordinate I am after.
It has been a long time since I have done any trigonometry and I am rusty with the sin, cos and tan functions, I have a feeling they are required but have no clue how to implement them.
Can anyone give me a demonstration as to how I would go about doing this in a mathematical/programatical way?
extra info:
My function returns the exact distance between the two points, so say you set two points to 0,0,0 and 4,4,0 respectively, and those points are set to scale(the game world is divided into a very large 3d grid, with each 'block' area being represented by a 3d coordinate) then it would give back a value at around 5.6.
The key point about it varying is that the user can set the points, so say they set a point to read 0,0,0, the actual location could be something like 52, 85, 93. However, providing they then count the blocks and set their other points correctly (eg, set a point 4,4,0 at the real point 56, 89, 93) then the final result will return the relative position (eg the object they are trying to locate is at real point 152, 185, 93, it will return the relative value 100,100,0). I need to be able to calculate it knowing every point but the one it's trying to locate, as well as the distances between all points.
Also, please don't ask why I can't just calculate it by using the real coordinates, I'm hoping to show the equation up on screen as it calculates the result.7
Example:
Here is a diagram
Imagine these are points in my game on a flat plain.
I want to know the point f.
I know the values of points d and e, and the sides A,B and C.
Using only the data I know, I need to find out how to do this.
Answered Edit:
After many days of working on this, Sean Kenny has provided me with his time, patience and intellect, and thus I have now got a working implementation of a triangulation method.
I hope to place the different language equivalents of the code as I test them so that future coders may use this code and not have the same problem I have had.
I spent a bit of time working on a solution but I think the implementer, i.e you, should know what it's doing, so any errors encountered can be tackled later on. As such, I'll give my answer in the form of strong hints.
First off, we have a vector from d to e which we can work out: if we consider the coordinates as position vectors rather than absolute coordinates, how can we determine what the vector pointing from d to e is? Think about how you would determine the displacement you had moved if you only knew where you started and where you ended up? Displacement is a straight line, point A to B, no deviation, not: I had to walk around that house so I walked further. A straight line. If you started at the point (0,0) it would be easy.
Secondly, the cosine rule. Do you know what it is? If not, read up on it. How can we rearrange the form given in the link to find the angle d between vectors DE and DF? Remember you need the angle, not a function of the angle (cos is a function remember).
Next we can use a vector 'trick' called the scalar product. Notice there is a cos function in there. Now, you may be thinking, we've just found the angle, why are we doing it again?
Define DQ = [1,0]. DQ is a vector of length 1, a unit vector, along the x-axis. Which other vector do we know? Do we know of two position vectors?
Once we have two vectors (I hope you worked out the other one) we can use the scalar product to find the angle; again, just the angle, not a function of it.
Now, hopefully, we have 2 angles. Could we take one from the other to get yet another angle to our desired coordinate DF? The choice of using a unit vector earlier was not arbitrary.
The scalar product, after some cancelling, gives us this : cos(theta) = x / r
Where x is the x ordinate for F and r is the length of side A.
The end result being:
theta = arccos( xe / B ) - arccos( ( (A^2) + (B^2) - (C^2) ) / ( 2*A*B ) )
Where theta is the angle formed between a unit vector along the line y = 0 where the origin is at point d.
With this information we can find the x and y coordinates of point f relative to d. How?
Again, with the scalar product. The rest is fairly easy, so I'll give it to you.
x = r.cos(theta)
y = r.sin(theta)
From basic trigonometry.
I wouldn't advise trying to code this into one value.
Instead, try this:
//pseudo code
dx = 0
dy = 0 //initialise coordinates somehow
ex = ex
ey = ey
A = A
B = B
C = C
cosd = ex / B
cosfi = ((A^2) + (B^2) - (C^2)) / ( 2*A*B)
d = acos(cosd) //acos is a method in java.math
fi = acos(cosfi) //you will have to find an equivalent in your chosen language
//look for a method of inverse cos
theta = fi - d
x = A cos(theta)
y = A sin(theta)
Initialise all variables as those which can take decimals. e.g float or double in Java.
The green along the x-axis represents the x ordinate of f, and the purple the y ordinate.
The blue angle is the one we are trying to find because, hopefully you can see, we can then use simple trig to work out x and y, given that we know the length of the hypotenuse.
This yellow line up to 1 is the unit vector for which scalar products are taken, this runs along the x-axis.
We need to find the black and red angles so we can deduce the blue angle by simple subtraction.
Hope this helps. Extensions can be made to 3D, all the vector functions work basically the same for 3D.
If you have the displacements from an origin, regardless of whether this is another user defined coordinate or not, the coordinate for that 3D point are simply (x, y, z).
If you are defining these lengths from a point, which also has a coordinate to take into account, you can simply write (x, y, z) + (x1, y1, z1) = (x2, y2, z2) where x2, y2 and z2 are the displacements from the (0, 0, 0) origin.
If you wish to find the length of this vector, i.e if you defined the line from A to B to be the x axis, what would the x displacement be, you can use Pythagoras for 3D vectors, it works just the same as with 2D:
Length l = sqrt((x^2) + (y^2) + (z^2))
EDIT:
Say you have a user defined point A (x1, y1, z1) and you want to define this as the origin (0,0,0). You have another user chosen point B (x2, y2, z2) and you know the distance from A to B in the x, y and z plane. If you want to work out what this point is, in relation to the new origin, you can simply do
B relative to A = (x2, y2, z2) - (x1, y1, z1) = (x2-x1, y2-y1, z2-z1) = C
C is the vector A>B, a vector is a quantity which has a magnitude (the length of the lines) and a direction (the angle from A which points to B).
If you want to work out the position of B relative to the origin O, you can do the opposite:
B relative to O = (x2, y2, z2) + (x1, y1, z1) = (x1+x2, y1+y2, z1+z2) = D
D is the vector O>B.
Edit 2:
//pseudo code
userx = x;
usery = y;
userz = z;
//move origin
for (every block i){
xi = xi-x;
yi = yi - y;
zi = zi -z;
}
I have:
axis-aligned rectangle R;
non-vertical line A (specified by two points);
vertical line B (specified by x-coordinate).
All objects above is specified by integer coordinates.
I need to check, if result of crossing A and B is in the R. But I can't just calculate result of crossing A and B because it may be unpresentable in integer coordinates. Also I can't convert it to doubles because I need to get absolutely accurate result without any inaccuracy.
So, how can I check it?
If lines are specified by integer coordinates, then their crossing point has rational coordinates, which may be compared with absolutely precision.
Let's A goes through points (ax0, ay0) and (ax1, ay1), and B is at X0 coordinate.
Then crossing point Y-coordinate is (ay0*(ax1-ax0)+(X0-ax0)*(ay1-ay0))/(ax1-ax0) = p/q, where p and q are integer, and q is positive (negate nominator if needed).
Then p may be compared with R.Top*q and R.Bottom*q
[let's ignore not interesting case when B does not intersect R]
R cuts a segment from B, let's call it S. Intersection of B and A lies inside of R if and only if A crosses S.
Finding points of S is trivial.
To check whether a line crosses a segment, you should check that ends of S lie on different sides from A - this can be checked by signed angles.
Let's say that the 2 points on A are (x0, y0) and (x1, y1), with 'x0 < x1'.
The rectangle is determined by a x-coordinate xR and a y-coordinate yR
The B line is determined by the x-coordinate xB
The point you're looking for is (xB, yB), where yB is to be determined somehow, by manipulating integers only :
So first, you need to check
if xB * xR >= 0 (same side of the x-coordinate)
if abs(xB) <= abs(xR) (the B line cuts the rectangle)
If it's ok, then you need to check that this integer (which is equal to (x1-x0)yB)
Y = (y1-y0)(xB-x0)+(x1-x0)y0
verifies
Y * yR >=0 (same side of the y-coord)
abs(Y) <= (x1-x0) * abs(yR) (meaning that your intersection point is in the R area regarding its y-coord)
Your point is inside R if and only if the 4 conditions are true.
Hope it helps.
I am new to this forum and not a native english speaker, so please be nice! :)
Here is the challenge I face at the moment:
I want to calculate the (approximate) relative coordinates of yet unknown points in a 3D euclidean space based on a set of given distances between 2 points.
In my first approach I want to ignore possible multiple solutions, just taking the first one by random.
e.g.:
given set of distances: (I think its creating a pyramid with a right-angled triangle as a base)
P1-P2-Distance
1-2-30
2-3-40
1-3-50
1-4-60
2-4-60
3-4-60
Step1:
Now, how do I calculate the relative coordinates for those points?
I figured that the first point goes to 0,0,0 so the second one is 30,0,0.
After that the third points can be calculated by finding the crossing of the 2 circles from points 1 and 2 with their distances to point 3 (50 and 40 respectively). How do I do that mathematically? (though I took these simple numbers for an easy representation of the situation in my mind). Besides I do not know how to get to the answer in a correct mathematical way the third point is at 30,40,0 (or 30,0,40 but i will ignore that).
But getting the fourth point is not as easy as that. I thought I have to use 3 spheres in calculate the crossing to get the point, but how do I do that?
Step2:
After I figured out how to calculate this "simple" example I want to use more unknown points... For each point there is minimum 1 given distance to another point to "link" it to the others. If the coords can not be calculated because of its degrees of freedom I want to ignore all possibilities except one I choose randomly, but with respect to the known distances.
Step3:
Now the final stage should be this: Each measured distance is a bit incorrect due to real life situation. So if there are more then 1 distances for a given pair of points the distances are averaged. But due to the imprecise distances there can be a difficulty when determining the exact (relative) location of a point. So I want to average the different possible locations to the "optimal" one.
Can you help me going through my challenge step by step?
You need to use trigonometry - specifically, the 'cosine rule'. This will give you the angles of the triangle, which lets you solve the 3rd and 4th points.
The rules states that
c^2 = a^2 + b^2 - 2abCosC
where a, b and c are the lengths of the sides, and C is the angle opposite side c.
In your case, we want the angle between 1-2 and 1-3 - the angle between the two lines crossing at (0,0,0). It's going to be 90 degrees because you have the 3-4-5 triangle, but let's prove:
50^2 = 30^2 + 40^2 - 2*30*40*CosC
CosC = 0
C = 90 degrees
This is the angle between the lines (0,0,0)-(30,0,0) and (0,0,0)- point 3; extend along that line the length of side 1-3 (which is 50) and you'll get your second point (0,50,0).
Finding your 4th point is slightly trickier. The most straightforward algorithm that I can think of is to firstly find the (x,y) component of the point, and from there the z component is straightforward using Pythagoras'.
Consider that there is a point on the (x,y,0) plane which sits directly 'below' your point 4 - call this point 5. You can now create 3 right-angled triangles 1-5-4, 2-5-4, and 3-5-4.
You know the lengths of 1-4, 2-4 and 3-4. Because these are right triangles, the ratio 1-4 : 2-4 : 3-4 is equal to 1-5 : 2-5 : 3-5. Find the point 5 using trigonometric methods - the 'sine rule' will give you the angles between 1-2 & 1-4, 2-1 and 2-4 etc.
The 'sine rule' states that (in a right triangle)
a / SinA = b / SinB = c / SinC
So for triangle 1-2-4, although you don't know lengths 1-4 and 2-4, you do know the ratio 1-4 : 2-4. Similarly you know the ratios 2-4 : 3-4 and 1-4 : 3-4 in the other triangles.
I'll leave you to solve point 4. Once you have this point, you can easily solve the z component of 4 using pythagoras' - you'll have the sides 1-4, 1-5 and the length 4-5 will be the z component.
I'll initially assume you know the distances between all pairs of points.
As you say, you can choose one point (A) as the origin, orient a second point (B) along the x-axis, and place a third point (C) along the xy-plane. You can solve for the coordinates of C as follows:
given: distances ab, ac, bc
assume
A = (0,0)
B = (ab,0)
C = (x,y) <- solve for x and y, where:
ac^2 = (A-C)^2 = (0-x)^2 + (0-y)^2 = x^2 + y^2
bc^2 = (B-C)^2 = (ab-x)^2 + (0-y)^2 = ab^2 - 2*ab*x + x^2 + y^2
-> bc^2 - ac^2 = ab^2 - 2*ab*x
-> x = (ab^2 + ac^2 - bc^2)/2*ab
-> y = +/- sqrt(ac^2 - x^2)
For this to work accurately, you will want to avoid cases where the points {A,B,C} are in a straight line, or close to it.
Solving for additional points in 3-space is similar -- you can expand the Pythagorean formula for the distance, cancel the quadratic elements, and solve the resulting linear system. However, this does not directly help you with your steps 2 and 3...
Unfortunately, I don't know a well-behaved exact solution for steps 2 and 3, either. Your overall problem will generally be both over-constrained (due to conflicting noisy distances) and under-constrained (due to missing distances).
You could try an iterative solver: start with a random placement of all your points, compare the current distances with the given ones, and use that to adjust your points in such a way as to improve the match. This is an optimization technique, so I would look up books on numerical optimization.
If you know the distance between the nodes (fixed part of system) and the distance to the tag (mobile) you can use trilateration to find the x,y postion.
I have done this using the Nanotron radio modules which have a ranging capability.