Where can I get the source for a browsers native/base stylesheet?
In particular the internet explorer ones.
Unlike Firefox and Chrome where you can see the standard styles that were applied to its elements indenpendentemente your own CSS, IE does not. The default styles are programmed into the engine itself, but are not treated as a style sheet that can be visualized.
You can get almost exact ones for different versions of Internet Explorer from here:
http://www.iecss.com/
You can pick from IE6 all the way up to IE9.
The same site also includes the user agent style sheets for some other common browsers, but it's reasonably easy to obtain them directly from these other browsers yourself.
There is a small problem here: if you want IE's default stylesheet to use on your page, you're probably doing something wrong.
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One reason why I don't use Internet Explorer for web development is the way it supports CSS attribute manipulation: it lists the most general stylesheet attributes first. When there's a lot of the stylesheet rules you have to scroll down - which is most of the time.
Is there a way to change that order ? So it list the most specific style rules first just like Firefox in firebug and Chrome do ?
Try with IE tester. www.my-debugbar.com/wiki/IETester/HomePage.
You also need to install debug toolbar for IE tester http://www.debugbar.com/download.php.
This tool will give you what you need.
Our website looks great in all browsers except IE 6-8. We're not even using many CSS3 features. These are just plain old IE rendering bugs (like margins and padding). Before trying to apply a bunch of IE specific fixes, I was wondering if anyone knows of a javascript library that I could apply to fix a bunch of these typical bugs?
Update: Like I mentioned, we're not necessarily using any "modern" CSS3 features nor HTML5, so these are just typical IE 8 bugs where IE renders things differently than all the other browsers.
Go for excellent normalize.css reset that takes care of most of it (also used by HTML5 Boilerplate)
Normalize.css is a customisable CSS file that makes browsers render
all elements more consistently and in line with modern standards. We
researched the differences between default browser styles in order to
precisely target only the styles that need normalizing.
As for getting support of CSS3 for browsers that don't support it, check out CSS3Pie
You don't need JavaScript; just use a CSS reset file: http://yuilibrary.com/yui/docs/cssreset/
That will work across most browsers to not only fix IE issues, but also make your site render more uniformly over different browsers.
You might wanna take a look at this one: https://code.google.com/p/ie7-js/
or this: https://code.google.com/p/html5shiv/
Similar to disabling JavaScript in browsers, is there a way to disable support for various CSS3 properties in Firefox or Chrome to quickly confirm a page is rendering OK if support for certain properties isn't there? I know it's only a presentation layer, but I'm just hoping there's a more efficient way to test against this without using old browsers, especially if Modernizr is being utilised.
A project called deCSS3 manages to disable a large majority of CSS3 properties through the use of a bookmarklet that overrides and neutralises their usage with !important rules.
A recent addition to the project is "Modernizr class toggling" for an added level of testing when Modernizr is utilised.
Even if there were a way to do so, would it help? Each browser has its own quirks, so there is no guarantee that e.g.:
Firefox - CSS3 = Older Browser
CSS3 isn't a set of additions to CSS2, it replaces CSS2. The backgrounds and borders module in CSS3 includes border and background as well as border-radius and box-shadow. If you 'turn off' CSS3 you turn off all CSS, and even if you could disable the new stuff Tom's answer is correct - that wouldn't leave you testing anything that actually exists in the real world.
If you need a way to "turn off CSS3" then I don't think you're thinking about/implementing progressive enhancement/graceful degradation properly. You should be starting with non-CSS3 stuff, then enhancing your site with it. When you build the non-CSS3 foundation and test it in your target browsers, then adding CSS3 shouldn't change anything (browsers ignore styles they don't recognize). If you sandbox your CSS3 in its own stylesheet, then you can tell old versions of IE to completely ignore it (or, if you're using stuff that's only partially supported in IE9, can tell all versions of IE to ignore it) to save a download.
That said, CSS is handled by the core rendering engine, so in order to view a page without CSS3, you have to view it in a browser that doesn't support CSS3. It sucks, it means you have to have several browsers, and even virtual machines (or physical machines) to test very well, but such is the state of web development, unfortunately. Theoretically, you should be testing in several browsers, anyway, and already know that IE6-8 have their own quirks that don't even relate to CSS3, and should already be set up to test them (so, therefore, if you need to test old versions of other browsers, you can install them in your IE test environment).
There's a useful add-on for Firefox called "User Agent Switcher" which allows you to bump your browser rendering down to an older version of IE (the iPhone rendering is also pretty useful). That should help you double check.
Where can I find a complete "browser specific css attributes" reference?
I mean some attributes such as -moz-border-radius that is just for Firefox or -webkit-min-device-pixel-ratio. These examples work just in a specified web browser. I want a complete reference for these attributes.
Each vendor should maintain a list of custom CSS extensions. The ones I've found are linked below.
Mozilla (Firefox)
Opera
Safari (merged with standard CSS properties)
Internet Explorer (outdated)
Ones I can't find ...
Chrome (same engine as Safari, some slight differences in vendor extensions supported)
Peter Baverloo's table is the best reference I have been able to find for all browsers in one single page.
Check out css3files. It's a site that talks about all popular css3 functions, in what browsers they work and what code you need to use.
You can take a look at this page: http://caniuse.com/
It also shows most, if not all, HTML5 and CSS3 features and their support.
I dont understand why the HTML5 website I am working on is different in all browsers. I know it must be CSS, but I dont know what.
on Chrome: http://slackmoehrle.com/chrome.png
on Safari: http://slackmoehrle.com/safari.png
on IE 7: http://slackmoehrle.com/ie7.png
on FireFox Mac: http://slackmoehrle.com/firefox.png
the style sheet can be found here: http://slackmoehrle.com/css.css
Can anyone shed any insight?
Many are saying that browser detection is not a good method, but I dont see what to do to make this all work in the various browsers
UPDATE:
without using a CSS reset: http://slackmoehrle.com/test/without-reset/
with using a CSS reset: http://slackmoehrle.com/test/with-reset/
Have a look at using a CSS reset stylesheet
My personal favorite is Meyer's: http://meyerweb.com/eric/tools/css/reset/
The only real problem with browser detection is the fact that if newer version of browser will support some new features (rounded borders for example), but you still will be doing some workarounds.
Better approach is to use feature detection, so you will be able to use some specific browser capabilities if it has support of them and some graceful degradation pattern when something isn't supported.
For CSS most pragmatic approach is to have reset CSS included for all browsers, then have some common CSS rules which look the same in all browser and additional CSS files for different browsers which contain rules that should be different for different engines.
From my latest experience it's almost always possible to maintain only two versions of these DIFF files - one for Firefox, Safari, Chrome and another for IE family. And use feature detection for JS.
First of all, no version of IE can handle the new elements of HTML5 without javascript help. Only modern browsers can and IE is not a modern browser.
As far as the other browsers go, I'll have to look more but I've not had any issue with any sites I've done but, then, I don't use CSS resets and set all the CSS on the elements myself.