I have two sites on which the font is set by
* {
font-family: "Varela Round", sans-serif;
}
Since the font-size is not specified, the browser use his standard values for each element. But if I set the size to 0.9em the size is really small. The output of window.getComputedStyle(element).fontSize also shows different px values. If I set font-size: 13px the size is everywhere the same.
But if I set the size to 0.9em the size is really small.
Yes, it is a relative size.
The body becomes 90% of the font size of the html.
A section inside the body becomes 90% of the body (so 81% of the html).
A p inside the section becomes 90% of the section (so 72.9% of the html)
And so on.
If I set font-size: 13px the size is everywhere the same.
Absolute units do not vary based on the font size of the parent element.
This explanation is summarized from the site Css Font Size
The reason for this is the fact, that px is not relative to other elements. % and em instead are relative to their parent which results in the following effect:
Since 100% = 1em the two units can almost (see % vs em) be used analogously.
One solution is to use rem, which acts similar to em but does not inherent the value from the parent.
An other is to set a default size for the main element e.g. body and then set the font-size relative to the parent for all elements.
I have an h1 I want to fit the entire width of the viewport which consists of 13 characters in a monospaced font. After reading the CSS-Tricks article on viewport sized typography it seems like logically if I want to achieve this I simply have to set my h1's styles to:
h1 {
font-size: 13vw;
font-family: monospace;
}
This however is rendering with a bit of space left over (highlight the text to see the white space):
(There would be an image here but I don't have enough rep so click here for the JSFiddle)
I have tried other sizes, font-size: 14vw; is slightly too big, font-size: 13.99vw; seems just right, but strangely font-size: 13.999vw; is still too big?
Can someone explain what is going on here? Why would each character of a 13 character length string in a monospaced font require more than (100/13)% of the viewport width to fit the entire viewport width?
Before I begin I'm just going to say that I'm not going to give you a workaround due to issues I've raised in comments on Stoyan Dekov's answer. Instead I'm only going to answer your question of Can someone explain what is going on here?
font-size != width
The problem here is that you're assuming font-size is the same thing as width. It isn't. The CSS Fonts Module defines font-size as:
...the desired height of glyphs from the font.
This means that font-size is more comparable to height than it is to width.
This isn't specific to the vw unit, either. If you specify a font-size in pixels you'll also notice that the computed width does not match the font-size.
But even then it all depends on which font-family you're using anyway, as the same paragraph continues to say:
For scalable fonts, the font-size is a scale factor applied to the EM unit of the font. (Note that certain glyphs may bleed outside their EM box.) For non-scalable fonts, the font-size is converted into absolute units and matched against the declared font-size of the font, using the same absolute coordinate space for both of the matched values.
The key words here being scalable and non-scalable.
Even if a non-scalable font was being used though, 13vw would not reflect each character's width. This would never work with vw, but it may work with vh but only if the aspect ratio of each individual character matched the screen's aspect ratio.
The problem is if a text is the exact same size as the parent container, it will span across a second line.
body {
margin: 0;
width:100px
}
h1 {
font-family: monospace;
width:100px;
}
That will cause the text to go onto a new line as they are both 100px. That's why 14vw is too big, but 13.99 is just enough: Fiddle DEMO
However, you can use text-align: justify; to achieve what you want.
Take a look at this Fiddle DEMO.
Im using em font sizes, which is working fine for everywhere apart from the sidebar.
In the main content the em size is great. If I copy this em size to the sidebar the text becomes larger.
Im using a html/body size of 17px. Then 1.412em to get the size I would like. To see a live link of the sidebar font bigger go to this link. If you look at the twitter feed on the right sidebar you will see its using the same em but you view it a lot larger.
Using em as measurement value would just not inhert but increases accordingly.
Here's an example:
<div>
<p>
<span>foo bar</span>
</p>
</div>
body{
font-size: 1em;
}
div{
font-size: 1.5em;/*1.5em of 1em == 1.5em*/
}
div > p{
font-size: 1.5em;/*1.5em of 1.5em inherited from div == 2.25em*/
}
div > p > span{
font-size: 1.5em; /*1.5em of 2.25em inherited from p == 3.375em*/
}
So, I would recommend you to use px as measurement value.
Use ems to make scalable style sheets only.
If you want to know more about px, em, and % please follow this link and this link
Don't use em for font-size, that's just about the only place where you should never use it.
1em is the size of an m in the current standard font. You can use this to set paddings/margins, for example between paragraphs or around text blocks, that need to scale according to font size, to cater for people using custom settings at OS/browser level, or just as an easy way to keep a 'good' distance without having to worry about precise pixels.
Scaling a font to a relative size to the m of the current standard font makes no sense at all, unless you want to achieve this effect. If you would want to, it would be more logical to specify font-size:110%, for a single element or block. As a rule, use pt or px to specify font sizes.
There are many articles and questions about percentage-sized vs other-sized fonts. However, I can not find out WHAT the reference of the percent-value is supposed to be. I understand this is 'the same size in all browsers'. I also read this, for instance:
Percent (%): The percent unit is much like the “em” unit, save for a few fundamental differences. First and foremost, the current font-size is equal to 100% (i.e. 12pt = 100%). While using the percent unit, your text remains fully scalable for mobile devices and for accessibility.
Source: http://kyleschaeffer.com/best-practices/css-font-size-em-vs-px-vs-pt-vs/
But if you say "ie 12 pt = 100%", then it means you first have to define font-size: 12pt. Is that how it works? You first define a size in an absolute measure, and then refer to this as '100%'? Does not make a lot of sense, as many samples say it is useful to put:
body {
font-size: 100%;
}
So by doing this, WHAT is the font size relative to? I notice that the size I see on my screen differs for every font. Arial looks way bigger than Times New Roman, for instance. Also, if I would just do this, body size = 100%, would that mean that it will be the same on all browsers? Or only if I first define an absolute value?
UPDATE, SAT JUL 23
I am getting there, but please bear with me.
So, the % value relates to the default browser font size, if I understand correctly. Well, that is nice but gives me again several other questions:
Is this standard size always the same for every browser version, or do they vary between versions?
I ! found (see image below) the settings for Google Chrome (never looked at this before!), and I see standard "serif", "sans-serif" and "monospace" settings. But how do I interpret this for other fonts? Say I define font: 100% Georgia;, what size will the browser take? Will it look up the standard size for serif, or has the "Georgia" font a standard size for the browser
On several websites I read things like Sizing text and line-height in ems, with a percentage specified on the body [..], was shown to provide **accurate, resizable text across all browsers** in common use today. But from what I am learning now I believe that you should actually choose between either resizable text (using % or em, like what they recommend in this quote), or having 'accurate, consistent font-sizes across browsers' (by using px or pt as a base). Is this correct?
Google Settings:
This is how I think things could look like if you do not define the size in absolute values.
The browser default which is something like 16pt for Firefox, You can check by going into Firefox options, clicking the Content tab, and checking the font size. You can do the same for other browsers as well.
I personally like to control the default font size of my websites, so in a CSS file that is included in every page I will set the BODY default, like so:
body {
font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;
font-size: 14px
}
Now the font-size of all my HTML tags will inherit a font-size of 14px.
Say that I want a all divs to have a font size 10% bigger than body, I simply do:
div {
font-size: 110%
}
Now any browser that view my pages will autmoatically make all divs 10% bigger than that of the body, which should be something like 15.4px.
If I want the font-size of all div's to be 10% smaller, I do:
div {
font-size: 90%
}
This will make all divs have a font-size of 12.6px.
Also you should know that since font-size is inherited, that each nested div will decrease in font size by 10%, so:
<div>Outer DIV.
<div>Inner DIV</div>
</div>
The inner div will have a font-size of 11.34px (90% of 12.6px), which may not have been intended.
This can help in the explanation:
http://www.w3.org/TR/2011/REC-CSS2-20110607/syndata.html#value-def-percentage
My understanding is that when the font is set as follows
body {
font-size: 100%;
}
the browser will render the font as per the user settings for that browser.
The spec says that % is rendered
relative to parent element's font size
http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS1/#font-size
In this case, I take that to mean what the browser is set to.
A percentage in the value of the font-size property is relative to the parent element’s font size. CSS 2.1 says this obscurely and confusingly (referring to “inherited font size”), but CSS3 Text says it very clearly.
The parent of the body element is the root element, i.e. the html element. Unless set in a style sheet, the font size of the root element is implementation-dependent. It typically depends on user settings.
Setting font-size: 100% is pointless in many cases, as an element inherits its parent’s font size (leading to the same result), if no style sheet sets its own font size. However, it can be useful to override settings in other style sheets (including browser default style sheets).
For example, an input element typically has a setting in browser style sheet, making its default font size smaller than that of copy text. If you wish to make the font size the same, you can set
input { font-size: 100% }
For the body element, the logically redundant setting font-size: 100% is used fairly often, as it is believed to help against some browser bugs (in browsers that probably have lost their significance now).
Sorry if I'm late to the party, but in your edit you make a remark about font: 100% Georgia, which the other answers haven't responded to.
There is a difference between font: 100% Georgia and font-size:100%; font-family:'Georgia'. If that was all the shorthand method did, the font-size part would be meaningless. But it also sets a lot of properties to their default values: the line height becomes normal (or around 1.2), ditto for the style (non-italic) and weight (non-bold).
That's all. The other answers already mentioned everything else there was to mention.
It's relative to default browser font-size unless you override it with a value in pt or px.
As you showed convincingly, the font-size: 100%; will not render the same in all browsers. However, you will set your font face in your CSS file, so this will be the same (or a fallback) in all browsers.
I believe font-size: 100%; can be very useful when combining it with em-based design. As this article shows, this will create a very flexible website.
When is this useful? When your site needs to adapt to the visitors' wishes. Take for example an elderly man that puts his default font-size at 24 px. Or someone with a small screen with a large resolution that increases his default font-size because he otherwise has to squint. Most sites would break, but em-based sites are able to cope with these situations.
According to ALL THE SPECS DATING BACK TO 1996, percentage values on font-size refer to the parent element's (computed) font-size.
<style>
div {
font-size: 16px;
}
span {
font-size: 75%;
}
</style>
<div><span>this font size is 12px!</span></div>
It's that easy.
What if the div declares a relative font-size, like ems, or even worse, another percentage?? See “computed” above. Whatever absolute unit the relative unit converts to.
The only question that remains is what happens when you use a percentage value on the root element, which has no parent:
html {
font-size: 62.5%; /* 62.5% of what? */
}
In that case, see the “duplicate” of this question. TLDR: percentages on the root element refer to the browser default font size, which might be different per user.
References:
CSS 1 spec (1996)
CSS 2.1 spec (2011)
CSS Fonts Level 3 spec (2013)
CSS Fonts Level 3 editor’s draft (2017)
Relative to the default size defined to that font.
If someone opens your page on a web browser, there's a default font and font size it uses.
As to my understanding it help your content adjust with different values of font family and font sizes.Thus making your content scalable. As to the issue of inhering font size we can always override by giving a specific font size for the element.
The css of a major site I am looking at has what appears to be a strange way of managing their font sizes in CSS. First, the body selector has this:
body {
font:62.5%/1.5 Helvetica,Arial,FreeSans,sans-serif;
}
Then later on to get a custom size for the h2 font they do:
h2 {
font-size:3em;
}
If you change the font directives in either of these places, the font size of h2 will change and look incorrect. So they are clearly managing the font size via the combination of these directives, and I want to know why they would do it this way....
Questions:
Why is the h2 font not simply over-riding the body font? It's like the body font is acting as a multiplier on its size....
What is the motivation for this design?
Thanks,
Jonah
Why is the h2 font not simply over-riding the body font? It's like the body font is acting as a multiplier on its size....
Because in CSS, em is a relative unit of measure. Thus 3 ems of 62.5% of the base size means 187.5% of the base size for <h2> elements.
What is the motivation for this design?
Setting a percentage value for the body element means that — % being a relative unit of measure too — the user can resize text in an entire page using his browser's text size setting. I would guess that a value like 62.5% is in case the browser default font size makes the entire body copy too large (remember that this is being applied on the body element). My site uses 90%, which isn't that small but you get the idea.
1em is equal to the default font size. The default text size in browsers is 16px. Unless you change the default, that is.
Here the default is being defined as 62.5% of the browser's default, with a line height of 1.5.
3em is 3 times the default size set.
So when you change the body default it affects every place the em size unit is used, including the h2 tag with is 3 time the default setting.
Usually the browser defines a default font size of 16px. em however, is a relative unit. So for example, if you have a setting a font size for a container/div of
1 em = 1 times 16px = 16px
1.5 em = 1.5 times 16px = 24px
2 em = 2 times 16px = 32px
Therefore by setting it to 62.5%, it reduces down to your reference font size to 10px default.
which means this technique makes it easier when you are visualizing your font sizes in px,
1 em = 10px
1.5em = 15px
2em = 20px