At work, we have a client-server system where clients submit requests to a web server through HTTP. The server-side processing can sometimes take more than 60 seconds, which is the proxy timeout value set by our company's IT staff and cannot be changed. Is there a way to keep the HTTP connection alive for longer than 60 seconds (preferably for an arbitrarily long period of time), either by heartbeat messages from the server or the client?
I know there are HTTP 1.1 persistent connections, but that is not what I want.
Does HTTP have a keep-alive capability, or would this have to be done at the TCP level through some sort of socket option?
This should get you started.
Assuming you control both sides of the system, you can fake it by sending data back and forth periodically to keep the session from idling out -- most browsers won't terminate a connection as long as data is moving.
As a general suggestion, though, you're much better off re-designing the system so that the client submits a job request and then periodically queries (via Ajax) to see if it's completed. The Ajax queries can delay a while and the server can respond either when it has an affirmative status, or when the timeout period is near to elapsing. If the status-update request times out for some reason (timing errors or whatnot), the client simply re-submits it with no harm done and no visible disruption from the user's perspective.
Just have your server send a trickle of no-op data while it's doing the processing - if the result is in HTML, then something like:
<!-- keepalive -->
sent every 10 seconds should do.
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Say I have a webserivce used internally by other webservices with an average response time of 1 minute.
What are the pros and cons of such a service with "synchronous" responses versus making the service return id of the request, process it in the background and make the clients poll for results?
Is there any cons with HTTP connections which stay active for more than one minute? Does the default keep alive of TCP matters here?
Depending on your application it may matter. Couple of things worth mentioning are !
HTTP protocol is sync
There is very wide misconception that HTTP is async. Http is synchronous protocol but your client could deal it async. E.g. when you call any service using http, your http client may schedule is on the background thread (async). However The http call will be waiting until either it's timeout or response is back , during all this time the http call chain is awaiting synchronously.
Sockets
Since HTTP uses socket and there is hard limit on sockets. Every HTTP connection (if created new every time) opens up new socket . if you have hundreds of requests at a time you can image how many http calls are scheduled synchronously and you may run of sockets. Not sure for other operation system but on windows even if you are done with request sockets they are not disposed straight away and stay for couple of mins.
Network Connectivity
Keeping http connection alive for long is not recommended. What if you loose network partially or completely ? your http request would timeout and you won't know the status at all.
Keeping all these things in mind it's better to schedule long running tasks on background process.
If you keep the user waiting while your long job is running on server, you are tying up a valuable HTTP connection while waiting.
Best practice from RestFul point of view is to reply an HTTP 202 (Accepted) and return a response with the link to poll.
If you want to hang the client while waiting, you should set a request timeout at the client end.
If you've some Firewalls in between, that might drop connections if they are inactive for some time.
Higher Response Throughput
Typically, you would want your OLTP (Web Server) to respond quickly as possible, Since your queuing the task on the background, your web server can handle more requests which results to higher response throughput and processing capabilities.
More Memory Friendly
Queuing long running task on background jobs via messaging queues, prevents abusive usage of web server memory. This is good because it will increase the Out of memory threshold of your application.
More Resilient to Server Crash
If you queue task on the background and something goes wrong, the job can be queued to a dead-letter queue which helps you to ultimately fix problems and re-process the request that caused your unhandled exceptions.
I think I know what is happening here, but would appreciate a confirmation and/or reading material that can turn that "think" into just "know", actual questions at the end of post in Tl,DR section:
Scenario:
I am in the middle of testing my MVC application for a case where one of the internal components is stalling (timeouts on connections to our database).
On one of my web pages there is a Jquery datatable which queries for an update via ajax every half a second - my current task is to display correct error if that data requests times out. So to test, I made a stored procedure that asks DB server to wait 3 seconds before responding, which is longer than the configured timeout settings - so this guarantees a time out exception for me to trap.
I am testing in Chrome browser, one client. Application is being debugged in VS2013 IIS Express
Problem:
Did not expect the following symptoms to show up when my purposeful slow down is activated:
1) After launching the page with the rigged datatable, application slowed down in handling of all requests from the client browser - there are 3 other components that send ajax update requests parallel to the one I purposefully broke, and this same slow down also applied to any actions I made in the web application that would generate a request (like navigating to other pages). The browser's debugger showed the requests were being sent on time, but the corresponding break points on the server side were getting hit much later (delays of over 10 seconds to even a several minutes)
2) My server kept processing requests even after I close the tab with the application. I closed the browser, I made sure that the chrome.exe process is terminated, but breakpoints on various Controller actions were still getting hit for 20 minutes afterward - mostly on the actions that were "triggered" by automatically looping ajax requests from several pages I was trying to visit during my tests. Also breakpoints were hit on main pages I was trying to navigate to. On second test I used RawCap monitor the loopback interface to make sure that there was nothing actually making requests still running in the background.
Theory I would like confirmed or denied with an alternate explanation:
So the above scenario was making looped requests at a frequency that the server couldn't handle - the client datatable loop was sending them every .5 seconds, and each one would take at least 3 seconds to generate the timeout. And obviously somewhere in IIS express there has to be a limit of how many concurrent requests it is able to handle...
What was a surprise for me was that I sort of assumed that if that limit (which I also assumed to exist) was reached, then requests would be denied - instead it appears they were queued for an absolutely useless amount of time to be processed later - I mean, under what scenario would it be useful to process a queued web request half an hour later?
So my questions so far are these:
Tl,DR questions:
Does IIS Express (that comes with Visual Studio 2013) have a concurrent connection limit?
If yes :
{
Is this limit configurable somewhere, and if yes, where?
How does IIS express handle situations where that limit is reached - is that handling also configurable somewhere? ( i mean like queueing vs. immediate error like server is busy)
}
If no:
{
How does the server handle scenarios when requests are coming faster than they can be processed and can that handling be configured anywhere?
}
Here - http://www.iis.net/learn/install/installing-iis-7/iis-features-and-vista-editions
I found that IIS7 at least allowed unlimited number of silmulatneous connections, but how does that actually work if the server is just not fast enough to process all requests? Can a limit be configured anywhere, as well as handling of that limit being reached?
Would appreciate any links to online reading material on the above.
First, here's a brief web server 101. Production-class web servers are multithreaded, and roughly one thread = one request. You'll typically see some sort of setting for your web server called its "max requests", and this, again, roughly corresponds to how many threads it can spawn. Each thread has overhead in terms of CPU and RAM, so there's a very real upward limit to how many a web server can spawn given the resources the machine it's running on has.
When a web server reaches this limit, it does not start denying requests, but rather queues requests to handled once threads free up. For example, if a web server has a max requests of 1000 (typical) and it suddenly gets bombarded with 1500 requests. The first 1000 will be handled immediately and the further 500 will be queued until some of the initial requests have been responded to, freeing up threads and allowing some of the queued requests to be processed.
A related topic area here is async, which in the context of a web application, allows threads to be returned to the "pool" when they're in a wait-state. For example, if you were talking to an API, there's a period of waiting, usually due to network latency, between sending the request and getting a response from the API. If you handled this asynchronously, then during that period, the thread could be returned to the pool to handle other requests (like those 500 queued up requests from the previous example). When the API finally responded, a thread would be returned to finish processing the request. Async allows the server to handle resources more efficiently by using threads that otherwise would be idle to handle new requests.
Then, there's the concept of client-server. In protocols like HTTP, the client makes a request and the server responds to that request. However, there's no persistent connection between the two. (This is somewhat untrue as of HTTP 1.1. Connections between the client and server are sometimes persisted, but this is only to allow faster future requests/responses, as the time it takes to initiate the connection is not a factor. However, there's no real persistent communication about the status of the client/server still in this scenario). The main point here is that if a client, like a web browser, sends a request to the server, and then the client is closed (such as closing the tab in the browser), that fact is not communicated to the server. All the server knows is that it received a request and must respond, and respond it will, even though there's technically nothing on the other end to receive it, any more. In other words, just because the browser tab has been closed, doesn't mean that the server will just stop processing the request and move on.
Then there's timeouts. Both clients and servers will have some timeout value they'll abide by. The distributed nature of the Internet (enabled by protocols like TCP/IP and HTTP), means that nodes in the network are assumed to be transient. There's no persistent connection (aside from the same note above) and network interruptions could occur between the client making a request and the server responding to the request. If the client/server did not plan for this, they could simply sit there forever waiting. However, these timeouts are can vary widely. A server will usually timeout in responding to a request within 30 seconds (though it could potentially be set indefinitely). Clients like web browsers tend to be a bit more forgiving, having timeouts of 2 minutes or longer in some cases. When the server hits its timeout, the request will be aborted. Depending on why the timeout occurred the client may receive various error responses. When the client times out, however, there's usually no notification to the server. That means that if the server's timeout is higher than the client's, the server will continue trying to respond, even though the client has already moved on. Closing a browser tab could be considered an immediate client timeout, but again, the server is none the wiser and keeps trying to do its job.
So, what all this boils down is this. First, when doing long-polling (which is what you're doing by submitting an AJAX request repeatedly per some interval of time), you need to build in a cancellation scheme. For example, if the last 5 requests have timed out, you should stop polling at least for some period of time. Even better would be to have the response of one AJAX request initiate the next. So, instead of using something like setInterval, you could use setTimeout and have the AJAX callback initiate it. That way, the requests only continue if the chain is unbroken. If one AJAX request fails, the polling stops immediately. However, in that scenario, you may need some fallback to re-initiate the request chain after some period of time. This prevents bombarding your already failing server endlessly with new requests. Also, there should always be some upward limit of the time polling should continue. If the user leaves the tab open for days, not using it, should you really keep polling the server for all that time?
On the server-side, you can use async with cancellation tokens. This does two things: 1) it gives your server a little more breathing room to handle more requests and 2) it provides a way to unwind the request if some portion of it should time out. More information about that can be found at: http://www.asp.net/mvc/overview/performance/using-asynchronous-methods-in-aspnet-mvc-4#CancelToken
Our front-end MVC3 web application is using AsyncController, because each of our instances is servicing many hundreds of long-running, IO bound processes.
Since Azure will terminate "inactive" http sessions after some pre-determined interval (which seems to vary depending up on what website you read), how can we keep the connections alive?
Our clients MUST stay connected, and our processes will run from 30 seconds to 5 minutes or more. How can we keep the client connected/alive? I initially thought of having a timeout on the Async method, and just hitting the Response object with a few bytes of output, sort of like chunking the response, and then going back and waiting some more. However, I don't think this will work, since MVC3 is handling the hookup of an IIS thread back to the asynchronous response, which will have already rendered a view at that time.
How can we run a really long process on an AsyncController, but have the client not be disconnected by the Azure Load Balancer? Sending an immediate response to the caller, and asking that caller to poll or check another resource URL is not acceptable.
Azure load balancer idle time-out is 4 minutes. Can you try to configure TCP keep-alive on the client side for less than 4 minutes, that should keep the connection alive?
On the other hand, it's pretty expensive to keep a connection open per client for a long time. This will limit the number of clients you can handle per server. Also, I think IIS may still decide to close a connection regardless of keep-alives if it thinks it need the connection to serve other requests.
I have a web application deployed over IIS 7.0. the application is accessible by large number of users and manipulates large data ..my question is concerning the HTTP Keep-Alive option which is set to true by default.
is it a better approach to set the HTTP Keep-Alive to false or true.
in case of true is the good approach to use time out?
KeepAlive should normally be used to handle the requests that immediately follow an HTML request. Let's say on the first visit to your site I get an HTML page with 5 css, 5js and 25 images, I will use my HTTP connection which is still alive to request these things (well, depends on the browser, I'll maybe use 3 connection to speed up these things).
To handle this fact we usually use a Keepalive of 2s or 3s. Having a longer keepalive means the connection is waiting for the next page that the user may request. This may be a valid way of thinking, next time the user will want a page, we'll avoid to loose time establishing HTTP connection (and this can be the longest part of the request/response time). But for your server that mean most of HTTP connection that are handled by the server are doing... nothing. And you will reach your MaxConnection (W3SVC/MaxConnections with a ridiculous default to 10), with connections doing nothing. Really Bad. So long keep-alive needs big webservers and should be used only if your application really needs it.
If you use Keepalive in a 'classical website' you must change the connection timeout (by default 2min). In Apache you would have 2 settings, a keepalive tiemout (5s by default) and a connection timeout (2min). In IIS seems the timeout settings is used for both. So do not set it to 2s (a client really slow in sending his request will timeout), but something like 10s is maybe enough. Now one response is to disallow Keep-Alive, and make the browser opening more connections. Another response is to use a modern webserver (like nginx or cherokee for example) which handles keep-alive connection in a more elegant and resource-free way than Apache or IIS.
Even if you do not use Keepalive, what's the reason of waiting 2 minutes for a client timeout? it's is certainly too high, decrease this value to something like 60s.
Then you should check several settings related to timeout (ConnectionTimeout, HeaderWaitTimeout, MinFileBytesPerSec) and this nice response on performances settings in the registry.
This article will bring more insight and don't forget to check the "How do we fix it?" section
http://mocko.org.uk/b/2011/01/23/http-keepalive-considered-harmful/
I think that it's not a good idea to get all users connected.
Because of:
User just can open your site, but not use it - why we shoud keep connection for long time?
It's hard to keep much connection (more memory)
Use connection time-out (max 5 min will we ok)
BUT: if your application is a live chat - you should kepp alive all connection. In this way better to use Ajax Long Polling Request + Node JS + some fast nosql db to store chat messages.
I am making an http request which ends up taking more than 8 mins. For me, this long running request work fine. I am able to get a response back to my browser without any issues. (I am located on the same network as the server).
However, for some users, the browser never returns any response. (Note: When the same http request executes in 1 min, these users are able to see the response without any problem)
These users happen to be on another network. And there probably is a firewall or two between their location and the server.
I can see on their fiddler that the request is just sitting there waiting for a response.
I am right now assuming that firewall is killing the idle http connection.. but I am not sure.
If you have any idea why the response never gets back, or why the connection never breaks.. it will be really helpful.
Also: Is it possible to fix this issue by writing an Applet that somehow manages to keep the sending dummy signal to the server, even after having sent (flushed) the request to the server?
The users might be behind a connection tracking firewall/NAT gateway. Such gateways tend to drop the TCP connection when nothing has happened for a period of time. In a custom protocol you could send some kind of heartbeat messags to keep the TCP connection alive, but with HTTP you don't have proper control over that connection, nor does HTTP facilitate what's needed to keep a tcp connection "alive".
The usual way to handle long running jobs initated by an HTTP request is to fire off that job in the background, sending a proper response back to the client immediately and have an applet/ajax request poll the status of that job and returning the result when it's done.
If you need a quick fix, see if you can control any timeouts on the gateways between the server and the user.
Have you considered that the users might be using a browser which has a HTTP timeout which causes the browser to stop waiting for a response after a certain amount of time?
http://tldp.org/HOWTO/TCP-Keepalive-HOWTO/overview.html
http://tldp.org/HOWTO/TCP-Keepalive-HOWTO/usingkeepalive.html
If you are using Linux machine try
# cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_keepalive_time
7200
# cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_keepalive_intvl
75
# cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_keepalive_probes
9
# echo 1500 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_keepalive_time
# echo 500 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_keepalive_intvl
# echo 20 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_keepalive_probes