I used to use soap webservices for transferring chart data to my flex app, but recently switched over to using BlazeDS because of performance, convenient typing, etc.
I'm considering switching over to using JSON (as I do in other parts of the app) for these reasons:
Proliferation of DTOs for communicating with flex.* (With JSON, I just use JsonConfig to exclude properties as desired.)
Difficult to debug (whereas JSON is good ol' plaintext).
Problems with load balancing without sticky sessions.
Anyone else run into these problems with BlazeDS? Is BlazeDS worth the hassle?
* I could use the Externalizable interface instead of distinct DTOs, but it's also a pain.
I wouldn't give up on using remoting. Performance of remoting will be much better than JSON. Remember ActionScript doesn't have a method to decode JSON, so you'd need to use an AS library which will be slower than anything built into the player. You'd be better of using XML than JSON.
You should be able to exclude specific properties as desired by marking them as transient. ActionScript has [Transient] metadata and the idea came from Java. The C# library we use for remoting has Transient support. I'm sure BlazeDS does too.
Debugging is easy with the right tools. You should get Charles. It provides very nice views of AMF request and response messages (assuming you're using HTTP and not RTMP, I don't know about RTMP debugging).
http://www.charlesproxy.com/
You also seem to be choosing between BlazeDS and anything-not-remoting. You have more options. BlazeDS is just one remoting implementation that Adobe made available. They also have a commercial one. There are also many open-source remoting projects available. We use a wonderful one for C# called Fluorine. Open-source Java options are Red5 and OpenAMF, but I think there are others as well.
http://red5.org/
http://openamf.com/
There's also a distinction between RTMP and HTTP remoting. You can get data into Flex through either of these protocols and each will have it's advantages/disadvantages. I personally prefer HTTP remoting unless you absolutely need the functionality RTMP provides (push, streaming). HTTP will be easier to debug and should not have problems with a load balancer--it's just HTTP calls where the content happens to be binary.
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I have inherited supporting and making BizTalk applications as part of my development role.
I'm a general C# developer so I was pleased to see I can create Classes and call the Methods from the Expression shape of an Orchestration.
This means I can do all the data manipulation using code I am familiar and faster with rather than learn the BizTalk ways.
At this point I am not concerned with if it's a good idea or not.
Are there any purely technical reasons I should not do this?
You would have to make sure that whatever external methods you are calling is muli-threading capable and can handle high throughput.
If you don't achieve the above then you will either get some very strange issues (caused by cross thread contamination) or you will cause a bottle neck in BizTalk which will reduce message throughput.
You also need to make sure that errors are handled, retried and propagated back correctly to the calling Orchestration on failure. I came across one solution where the developer for some reason had decided to call a web service using an external class. Every so often this web service would throw an error, but the class would just pass the error message as it was back to the Orchestration as if it was a valid response message. This would cause a failure later on in the Orchestration when it tried to use the message and it did not match the expected message. When I got allocated budget I replaced this class with a properly configured send port, which also automatically retried the message when it encountered the web service error and then it successfully processed.
Technically you are adding deployment and maintaining complexity with the externals assemblies, for example any change in some contract will require changes in the assembly and the orchestration.
And you're losing all the advantages of the BizTalk mapping engine for data transformation which is in general an easy part to learn.
I say this, it's very important for future maintainability to develop BizTalk apps in the "BizTalk Way".
For example, if you did message manipulation in an external class that should have been done in a Map or with XPath, I would fail that in Code Review and you'd have to refactor.
The reason is because whoever might take this over from you should expect a BizTalk app. I've seen situations such as you describe and it does make it harder to upgrade, enhance, support new business requirements because now the developer has to accommodate the BizTalk and external processes.
Technically using .NET classes does not break anything in the BizTalk. Lots of BizTalk components are based of .NET framework such as Adapters, pipeline components etc. In my view, use the best of both BizTalk and .NET depending on the scenarios. e.g. if you need to map an inbound XML to outbound XML use BizTalk maps as they are lot easier and quicker to implement, in this scenario using a .NET class is more tedious then using map. I don't think there is a big learning curve in using BizTalk features such as Maps, orchestrations, pipeline components.
I have done some R&D on above libraries and have used some in my project.I am using Moshi for json parsing, OkHttp3 library for http connections and Rxjava for asynchronous and event based programming in my project. Now when I looked at retrofit, I felt its of no use as I have already used above main components of retrofit myself.
Just want to know the ideas of the people whether I am thinking in right direction or not.
Edit: From my point of view, Retrofit only provides clean interface of http client where one can customize requests,headers etc with annotations.
This is a good choice of libraries from my point of view. The first three are developed by Square and they work very well together. However the main difference is that each library works on a different layer.
OkHttp: transport layer. Deals with http protocol. Performs networking.
Moshi: Json parser. Transforms bytes from OkHttp into a Java objects.
Retrofit: Rest layer. Transforms HTTP logic (status codes), into REST logic.
RxJava: provides tools to create reactive code, instead of imperative code.
We have a Flex application which relies heavily on data driven content supplied via asp.net. Currently the majority of this data is provided via asp.net objects which are then XML serialised and sent via a simple ASHX handler. This is then parsed via e4x in singleton classes to populate either its self or arrays of sub classes which are then available to the rest of the application without making additional data calls.
This works but is it the best way? I've read quite a few articles discussing the subject but couldn't really find any consensus.
Should I look into converting these to Web Services? If so, how should I manage the bindings, automatically import them via Flex or build my own? What are the pro's and con's. An important factor in this decision is speed, lowest latency and highest throughput is essential
As a separate matter our application doesn't sit at the root of the domain, and when in local development makes data calls to our development servers. As a result we add flash vars to the application to specify the appRoot which is then appended to the service url as necessary.
MyService.url = GeneralData.ApplicationRootUrl + "Services/foobar.ashx";
Is this the best way? I have since discovered the rootURL property, should I be using this, how does it work in this context? If I were to convert the services to web services how would I go about implementing the same functionality to allow local development?
Many thanks
This works but is it the best way?
Best is very subjective based on your situation. If at all possible, I would recommend you use an AMF gateway. That way your objects can immediately convert from server side objects (.NET Classes) to client side objects (AS3 classes). This is a big time savings because you don't have to manually create your XML on the back end, nor manually process it in the front end. Also the binary format of AMF is going to give much smaller packets than XML or a SOAP WebService would.
For .NET AMF options, I'd look into WebORB or FlourineFX
Flex Application is always loaded in browser, and you can use relative URL, so that your application will connect to same server from where it is loaded.
MyService.url = "/Services/foobar.ashx";
"/" will certainly append host where it came from. And it is always good practice to connect to same host where the flash is loaded from.
Secondly, SOAP web services use xml serialization, so if you use your handler to do e4x serialization or you use SOAP web service generator of Flash Builder, speed will be almost same. SOAP web service will certainly be little slower, but the difference will be in micro seconds to milli seconds.
However, with Web services, your development will speed improve as you will not have to create proxy classes.
This is a pretty low level question...I'm trying to do a performance test of a JSP\Flex application and I notice in the AMF traffice that some sort of FLEX session seems to be used. All the AMF calls refer to a "DSId" which seems to be an identifier for the session.
I need to be able to work out what this DSId is by examing the HTTP traffic. Note there are no options to use any of the flex tools or libraries although I can call out to external Java or .Net libraries if necessary.
You may take a look at Red5 Media Server (written in Java), apart from server-side implementation of AMF handling, they have some client-side AMF implementation in their code base.
I started to use silverlight/flex and immediately bumped into the asynchronous service calling. I'm used to solving the data access problems in an OO-way with one server fetch mechanism or another.
I have the following trivial code example:
public double ComputeOrderTotal(Order order)
{
double total = 0;
// OrderLines are lazy loaded
foreach (Orderline line in order.Orderlines)
{
// Article,customer are lazy loaded
total = total + line.Article.Price - order.Customer.discount;
}
return total;
}
If I understand correctly, this code is impossible in Flex/Silverlight. The lazy loading forces you to work with callbacks. IMO the simple expample above will be a BIG mess.
Can anyone give me a structured way to implement the above ?
Edit:
The problem is the same for Flex/Silverlight, pseudo code would
do fine
Its not really ORM related but most orms use lazy loading so i'll remove
that tag
The problem is lazy loading in the model
The above example would be very doable of all data was in memory but
we assume some has to be fetched from
the server
Closueres dont help since sometimes data is already loaded and no asynchronous fetch is needed
Yes I must agree that O/R mapping is usually done on the server-side of your application.
In SilverLight asynchronous way of execution is the desired pattern to use when working with services. Why services? Because as I said before there is no O/R mapping tool at the moment that could be used on the client-side (SilverLight). The best approach is to have your O/R mapped data exposed by a service that can be consumed by a SilverLight application. The best way at the moment is to use Ado.Net DataServices to transport the data, and on the client-side to manage the data using LINQ to Services. What is really interesting about ADS (former Astoria project) is that it is designed to be used with Entity Framework, but the good folks also implemented support for IQueriable so basically you can hook up any data provider that support LINQ. To name few you can consider Linq To Sql, Telerik OpenAccess, LLBLGen, etc. To push the updates back to the server the data source is required to support the ADS IUpdateable.
You can look just exactly how this could be done in a series of blogposts that I have prepared here: Getting Started with ADO.NET Data Services and Telerik Open Access
I can't speak to Silverlight but Flex is a web browser client technology and does not have any database driver embedded in the Flash runtime. You can do HTTP protocol interactions to a web server instead. It is there in the middle-tier web server where you will do any ORM with respect to a database connection, such as Java JDBC. Hibernate ORM and iBATIS are two popular choices in the Java middle-tier space.
Also, because of this:
Fallacies of Distributed Computing
You do not do synchronous interactions from a Flex client to its middle-tier services. Synchronous network operations have become verboten these days and are the hallmark signature of a poorly designed application - as due to reasons enumerated at the above link, the app can (and often will) exhibit a very bad user experience.
You instead make async calls to retrieve data, load the data into your client app's model object(s), and proceed to implement operations on the model. With Flex and BlazeDS you can also have the middle-tier push data to the client and update the client's model objects asynchronously. (Data binding is one way to respond to data being updated in an event driven manner.)
All this probably seems very far afield from the nature of inquiry in your posting - but your posting indicates you're off on an entirely incorrect footing as to how to understand client-side technologies that have asynchronous and event-driven programming baked into their fundamental architecture. These RIA client technologies are designed this way completely on purpose. So you will need to learn their mode of thinking if you want to have a good and productive experience using them.
I go into this in more detail, and with a Flex perspective, in this article:
Flex Async I/O vs Java and C# Explicit Threading
In my direct experience with Flex, I think this discussion is getting too complicated.
Your conceptual OO view is no different between sync and asynch. The only difference is that you use event handlers to deal with the host conversation in the DAL, rather than something returned from a method call. And that often happens entirely on the host side, and has nothing to do with Flex or Silverlight. (If you are using AIR for a workstation app, then it might be in client code, but the same applies. As well if you are using prolonged AJAX. Silverlight, of course, has no AIR equivalent.)
I've been able to design everything I need without any other changes required to accomodate asynch.
Flex has a single-threaded model. If you make a synchronous call to the web server, you'd block the entire GUI of the application. The user would have a frozen application until the call completes (or times out on a network error condition, etc.).
Of course real RIA programs aren't written that way. Their GUI remains accessible and responsive to the user via use of async calls. It also makes it possible to have real progress indicators that offer cancel buttons and such if the nature of the interaction warrants such.
Old, bad user experience web 1.0 applications exhibited the synchronous behaviour in their interactions with the web tier.
As my linked article points out, the async single-threaded model coupled with ActionScript3 closures is a good thing because it's a much simpler programming model than the alternative - writing multi-thread apps. Multi-threading was the approach of writing client-server Java Swing or C# .NET WinForm applications in order to achieve a similarly responsive, fluid-at-all-times user experience in the GUI.
Here's another article that delves into this whole subject matter of asynchronous, messaging/event-driven distributed app architecture:
Building Effective Enterprise Distributed Software Systems
data-driven communication vs behavior-driven communication
Silverlight is a client technology and the Object - Relational mapping happens completely in the server. So you have to forgot about the ORM in Silverlight.
Following your example what you have to do is to create a webservice (SOAP, REST...) that can give your silverlight client the complete "Order" object.
Once you have the object you can work with it with no communication with the server in a normal - synchronous way.
Speaking about Silverlight, you should definitely check RIA services.
Simply, it brings the DataContext from the server to the client from where you can asynchronously query it (there is no need to write WCF services by hand, it's all done by RIA).
C# 5
async / await construct will almost exactly what I want..
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