Is it possible to run Python & Django on IIS?
I am going to be a Lead Developer in some web design company and right now they are using classic ASP and ASP.NET.
As far as I can see ASP.NET MVC is not mature. Should I recommend Python & Django stack?
If it's not possible to run Python on IIS what do you think I should do? Stick with ASP.NET which I don't know? I don't know python well as well but I'm more comfortable with it.
Can I run IIS and Apache in parallel?
There's two issue here, technological and psycological.
Technologically, yes, it's definitely possible. In fact, Django has a wiki article about this. Google also shows a lot of similar tutorials. Apache and IIS can also run on the same machine (I'm actually doing that right now from a development machine).
The bigger issue will be psycological, in the form of backlash you'll get from the other developers. I agree that Django kicks the pants off ASP.NET, but you're probably going to find that an ASP.NET shop is going to be married to ASP.NET and will likely ignore your suggestion to try anything else, much less Django.
We've been running django on IIS for a couple of years using PyISAPIe. It's a fairly big site, about 150,000 users. We're moving to linux/apache though, partly cos PyISAPIe isn't great.
Case in point - WebKit browsers don't work well with it, it seems to mess up the chunking. That's tolerable for us as we are allowed to limit our users to FF/IE7+, but annoys me on a mac as I much prefer Safari to FF.
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I need to set up a web server on WinCE (7.0) and the following are some of the features that I need to implement through this web site:
be able to update the device software (run an exe) and display output
start/end process
display the run-time of device
Should I use ASP or ISAPI on my web server on WinCE 7(WEC 7) platform? If you include some reasons for your response, it would be great.
I was planning on using ASP because of its simplicity compared to ISAPI; however, when I tested a simple Hello World(hello.asp) page on the device, it took around 30 seconds to load the page. For testing purposes, I am using Windows Virtual PC. So I am not sure what is causing it to be so slow. If you could please enlighten me on this topic too, it would be great.
I looked up ASP .NET Compact framework but I am concerned about performance again.
I am beginner on WinCE development and web development so any answers would be greatly appreciated.
If you need any other information to better answer the question, please let me know and I will provide it.
Classic ASP on CE is really, really limited. You're not going to be able to hit your targets without a custom COM control, which is not very fun to write or debug and it will have to be installed on the service device. Out of the two you've proposed, ISAPI is the only one that will reasonably do what you want.
It's a side note, but from experience I'd not use either due to the absolute pain of debugging either one. I'd use a separate commercial ASP.NET web server for Windows CE. Of course I created it, so I'm biased, but really, even creating your own port 80 server is going to be less painful than the piss-poor out-of-box offerings in CE.
I found out the problem with the slow loading ASP. It is an error with the WinCE 7 web server. Microsoft has released an update that fixes that problem.
Windows Embedded Compact 7 Monthly Update July 2011
So I think I will go ahead and use ASP. I'll see if I can add the features that I need to implement.
I'm about to build my first serious Lisp-based project: a web application that will need to scale to tens of thousands of users (not concurrently - probably hundreds, at most, concurrently).
The stack I'm intending to use looks like:
Weblocks web framework with a BerkeleyDB back-end
Elephant object database
Steel Bank Common Lisp (SBCL)
Ubuntu Server (10.04 LTS)
I have two areas of concern re. this stack:
Is Elephant dead? The latest release is getting on for three years old ... which could just mean that it's stable I guess :-)
As a relative newcomer to Lisp (but with significant RoR & ASP.NET experience) are any of those technologies likely to melt my head?
Feedback on my choices, & suggestions of alternatives, would be appreciated.
Elephant is effectively unmaintained. It does not work on current SBCL and the patch to fix the issue has not been applied. It's possible that someone else might pick up the development but it's not clear in the short term if that will happen. Some people use Rucksack as an object store, and bknr-datastore is also interesting.
Ubuntu is fine, but don't use Ubuntu Lisp packages; it's better to get SBCL from www.sbcl.org and libraries via Quicklisp. Because of that, almost any Linux will work equally well. I use Debian for my Lisp-powered website.
Weblocks is a continuations-based web framework - it is a very old approach, it should not be used for developing modern web-applications.
If you don't mind using PostgreSQL for persistence, you should check out Postmodern.
I have tried Weblocks, and i have made a simple web app also. But when i want to write a more complicated app, i found Weblocks is too limited. It lead user to write more widgets, but i suppose widgets cannot solve all web UI problem. I even read 80% source codes of Weblocks. But .... finally i decided to change another Web framework. What i really need, i suppose, is a url routing library like Ruby on Rails, Restas is fine. I tried it, and i wrote a blog library which support themes like WordPress using Restas. Restas is easier than Weblocks, but more powerful in my opinion.
I am trying to get a simple prototype using ASP.NET S#arp-architecture (Sharp architecture) to run on a shared hosting site. This site runs in medium trust, which appears to give problems with this framework. At first I went off on a wild goose chase with the mySQL.data.dll, but the latest version already supports partially trusted callers.
The only way I found up until now is this blogpost, which basically describes re-compiling everything from the ground up, starting with the various Castle components. Is this the only way to get this to work, and more importantly, does this actually work?
I have had some good experiences with S#arp-architecture, and since I only have a few days to build this prototype, I figured S#arp-architecture would be a good match. So, my options are to stick with SA, or on the other end of the spectrum to hand-roll an MVC/NH/mySQL application. Other suggestions (using NHibernate and ASP.NET MVC) are also welcome.
Two-fold answer: re-compiling everything does work. I got a simple S#arp-architecture app to work at this hosting provider. I did not want to risk going over my prototype deadline however, so for the demo I built a very straightforward, simple app with (gasp!) straight ADO.NET.
I work in Visual Studio working on sites mostly myself and occasionally I start on new features for a site and bam a bug pops up on the live site and now I am in the middle of changes and can't post a fix to the bug until everything I started to change is complete.
So I am looking for a nice an simple way to work with this type of situation - any suggestions?
Are you asking for a recommendation of a source control system? SourceGear Vault is free for single users.
I am big fan of subversion. There also plugins for VS to work with subversion repository.
http://subversion.tigris.org/
http://ankhsvn.open.collab.net/
I am in a similar situation and I use Perforce. It is free for up to two users and integrates well with Visual Studio.
Subversion is well supported and has tools for most any environment. It's also mostly straightforward to use, so you should be able to get up and running quickly.
If you need to work on a lot of separate features and bugs at the same time, you might try Mercurial instead. The tooling support is a lot less mature but I find the distributed design to do a better job of merging and facilitating work on separate issues concurrently.
But really, if you aren't using anything currently and aren't sure what your needs are, just choose one that has support in the IDE/tools you use. It will probably be Subversion.
I'm trying to do an informal feasibility study for work on if Mono/Apache/Linux is realistically 'ready' and in any way comparable to a more traditional .NET/IIS/Windows stack.
Any comparison of performance would be helpful too.
Take a look at companies using Mono.
It even says that Wikipedia uses Mono for its search facilities.
http://Fiducial.Biz, a financial company in France is running on Mono with ASP.NET
We're running a website/bunch of webservices on Mono/Apache/FreeBSD platform for one of our customers. The setup works great.
One thing to remember is 2.0 of Mono is out soon (I think this week) and it is even better now. So if you do any testing make sure you at least use the 2.0 RC
I am running a couple sites off ASP.NET over Mono. I am targeting 2.0 of the framework.
I haven't had Digg numbers, but I have also never had an issue.