Is it advisable to load display advertising in an iframe? - iframe

Some display advertising campaigns are very JavaScript heavy and it has a jarring effect on page load time because the ad is generally inline JavaScript - the useful parts of the page doesn't render until the ad did its thing.
A solution seems to be to load the ad in an iframe in order to display useful content to a user while the ad loads in the background and "snaps into place" when it is ready.
I've been told a number of drawbacks of an iframe approach:
You are limited in the types of campaigns you can host - for example, no expanding ads that roll over content.
If you have multiple ad units on one page you can't have combined campaigns.
Advertisers avoid iframes because it is easier to game the system with false impressions
Are these real concerns? If so, are there any workarounds or should I keep display ads on page?

In my experience we have not had any problems with placing display advertising in IFRAMEs.
We still have ads that display
expanding content over the rest of
the page. For this to work, it
requires the company delivering the
creative to support "iframe busting"
which does require you to host a
special file on your web server.
Pointroll, Eyewonder and the like
support this. The actual calls to the
ad network (doubleclick in our case)
don't change really. Note that we have a policy of allowing expandable IFRAME content only on user-click; perhaps that is a key factor that enables this technique.
I'm not sure
what a "combined campaign" but I'm
not sure how it'd be impacted. Our calls to Doubleclick don't change - all the same parameters are supported in terms of identifying the site, zone, location, size, tile etc.
We moved to an IFRAME model from Javascript mostly for the freebie "asynchronous" aspect of IFRAME loading and also because it acts as a sandbox; we found cases where faulty ad creative could overwrite our whole DOM and blow up the page on certain browsers.
There are now techniques that can be used to load content via Javascript and still be asynchronous (XHR injection) but its not for the faint-of-heart and is likely to be incompatible with ad serving anyway due to the need to serve content off the same domain.
Note that moving to IFRAMEs won't reduce page load time as measured by any kind of browser plugin, but it will at least background-load the ads meaning the browser won't halt rendering for the Javascript. We've also experimented with techniques that utilize Javascript to defer the enabling of the IFRAME src parameter until a time that we're ready to let the Ads start downloading (for example, after the above-the-fold parts of the page have rendered). However, its a fine balance between showing the paying Ad content and your page's main content.

Those are valid concerns. I would also add that:
When search engines find the advertisement, they will add them to their database as separate web pages, i.e. the link in the search results will be to the ad page (iframe), not to the page that contains the iframe.
It is more difficult for users with limited accessibility to navigate to the ads and click on their links. For example, if the user has keyboard access only.

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Disable DFP iframes to acces parent window

I am having some troubles with malicious ads that show interstitials with no close button.
Inspecting the code, I found that DFP uses <iframe> tags to load the ads, but as the content of those iframes are loaded using Javascript (using iframe's document.write(), without src attribute), they get full access to parent window through window.top and window.top.document, allowing advertisers to inject code, show malicious ads and even stole data such as user emails and passwords.
In order to prevent this, I'm looking for a way to block DFP ads to access the main window. Is it possible?
Consider using SafeFrames rather than Friendly Iframes you appear to be using. Quoting from DFP's help page on the subject:
We recommend using SafeFrames and creatives compatible with SafeFrame for expansion instead of friendly iframes. SafeFrame is supported in DFP and enabled by default when using GPT tags. It enables transparent and rich interactions between page content and ads, while preventing external access to sensitive data and providing more granular control over which creatives are rendered
I think you use synchronous rendering, try to change it to asynchronous
https://support.google.com/dfp_premium/answer/183282?hl=en

Google Analytics, iframes & cross-domain

I have GA on every page on one domain (actually not me, but my company, whose programmer needs auditing). Just the default code (Classic version, ga.js), no special accommodations whatsoever that I've seen or know of. Bare minimal if any configuration past registering the service with the main site...
All the pages are either aspx or static HTML. It's common practice for this guy to embed pages on the site within other pages on the site in iframes, where both the parent (top-level) & child (embedded) pages contain the GA script.
I don't really know much at all about GA, have never worked with it, but I do suspect that might result in extra hits being counted by GA or something, that that may be messing with the metrics. But then I've read stuff about GA using first-party cookies so by default pages loaded in iframes won't be tracked/counted... I could really use some clarification on this, please.
Then our programmer frames pages from the main site in pages on other sites that we own, that are on different domains. So then there's this cross-domain business, with no segregation of sources, because they really don't care much. So what should be the outcome of that? The external sites' pages don't have the GA code.
However, we're rebuilding one of those other sites - actually I am, for the most part - and the programmer told me to just copy and paste the same exact GA script used on the main site into that one. So, it's a different domain. That wouldn't work as-is, would it? Wouldn't there have to be some sort of special configuration, setting of the domain, something?
I'd really appreciate if someone could tell me more about the scenarios described above. Thanks in advance.
In the Google Analytics developer menu, you can create a new 'profile' for this new site. The analytics will then be tracked for just that one site, not for all. In theory, it is possible to use one GA.js for all your sites, but it kind of kills the whole concept of Google Analytics, so it's not recommended.
Your really shouldn't be using iframes anymore IMO. There are reasons to use them like embedding code for tracking etc, I think, even GA uses iframes. But, generally Google doesn't like them because a lot of spammers use them to try and fool the Google Crawler.
Also, it get's very complicated to understand what is going on within GA.
To answer your question: Each iframe is like an independent webpage completely separated from the other webpage (for security reasons). So when Google or a web browser goes to your website it will do this:
Load your main html document.
Render that page.
See that you have an iframe.
Load that page in the iframe.
Render the iframe.
Now, if you don't have GA installed on the iframe page it will not track the page being loaded.
But if you do put GA in the iframe it will record when the iframe is loaded or the webpage is loaded.
But, remember that one of the main reasons of having GA is to see where your customers are coming from and why. If you have an iframe of another webpage, you really don't know if that is because a customer is:
A) visiting your website from the page directly.
OR
B) the customer is visiting that page through an iframe on another page.
It can get very complicated
You must generate a new tracker for each domain you are using. Otherwise what is to stop someone from just copying your GA code, and putting it on their webpage.

Make Google Analytics count visits to 3rd party site using iFrame (Hidden)

Will Google Analytics count visits/page views etc if I place a hidden iFrame in my web page ?
The iFrame source has a Google Analytics tracking code installed.
My users browse the site from a mobile device such as Android/iPhone.
My purpose is that the 3rd party site will count my page views as their own (As if the user actually visited their web page)
Making the iFrame hidden is possible in several ways:
Making its style hidden.
Setting its size to a small size were the user won't notice it much.
Considering your intentions, Google Analytics will divide the data collections from both sites, even beign inside the iFrame.
Only 2 things to watch out for:
- The UAs have to be different for both sites
- P3P: Some browsers wont allow the site inside the iFrame to write cookies, as it will be considered third party, so you´ll have to use P3P to fix that.

Loading web application content through AJAX

I'm about to build a web application(not web presentation) which will load its content through AJAX (jQuery) into a specific div. There will be a menu above the div and when a user clicks on an item from the menu, the appropriate page will be loaded into the main div.
I'd like to know if there are any cons and pros of choosing this pattern for a web application.
So far I'm avare that the browser back button and history/url will be gone.
Two possible downsides are that it could make it difficult for users to bookmark content on your site and difficult for search engines to differentiate pages on your site.
You should probably provide more information on your reasons for taking this approach. You might have good reasons or it might be a case of using a technology (AJAX) because it is cool to use.
If you want to give the users the impression of fast responsiveness, then yes AJAX load your pages, but still have a different url for each page. This will take more code but it will solve both issues that I mentioned.
http://yourdomain.com/home.aspx //loads its own content via AJAX
http://yourdomain.com/contact.aspx //loads its own content via AJAX
etc
This is really only appropriate if you have a lot of content, or where the content involves time-consuming calculations, such as on a financial site. In most cases, it would be less trouble to just load your pages normally or break you content into paged chunks.
The main con of this approach this will make your site very difficult for search engines to crawl. They don't read Javascript, so your content won't get seen or indexed by them. Try to do progressive enhancement so that they (and any users who don't use Javascript, e.g. screen-readers) don't get left behind.
On the other hand, you can keep browser history functionality. This can be done using the URL hash, e.g. http://www.example.com/#home vs http://www.example.com/#about-us. The nicest way to do this is to get Ben Alman's hashchange plugin and then use the hashchange event:
$(window).hashchange(function(){
var location = window.location.hash;
//do your processing here based on the contents of location
});
This will allow your users to use the history function and the bookmarking function of their browsers. See the documentation on his site for more information.

Using Javascript to get around SEO concerns

I would like to know at which stage is it okay to start manipulating HTML elements/content using Javascript so as not to impair SEO?
I have read somewhere that HTML content that is hidden using the CSS property display:none is often penalized by Google crawlers, with good reason from what I'm led to believe...I ask this as I intend to have some div panels that are initially hidden, but shown once the user clicks on an appropriate link. My intention is therefore not to hide content from users entirely - just intially to give them a better user experience - I'm afraid Google may not see it that way!
My reason for doing this is to prevent the split second (or in some cases, a full 2 seconds) of ghastly unstyled html elements (positioning), before my Javascript comes in to position, hide and neaten everything up. So adding the display:none at the forefront, and then using Javascript to toggle visibility would have been ideal, but is apparently a no-no with Google Search Engine bot.
Do you experts have any advice? Thank you!
google can now crawl AJAX sites using a simple URL substitution trick; you might be able to take advantage of this to let googlebot see a plain html version of the page for indexing instead of your load-optimized page; see http://code.google.com/web/ajaxcrawling/docs/getting-started.html
If the content in question exists on the page in the html, and is accessible to the user by the time the page finishes loading initially, then you are okay. You want to make sure google can lead a user to your page and see the content in question without requiring further interaction. Adding new content to the html after the initial load (i.e. content from the server), can be problematic for SEO. However if all content is in the html by the end of the page load, then you shouldn't get docked. Keep in mind, good SEO strategy dictates using standard methods of usability so the web crawler can access your content.
Also, each page should follow a content theme. Example: Don't abuse users by hiding five different unrelated blocks of content "medical devices, kazoos, best diners, motorcycles, toxic waste" on one page. Theoretically you could take all of your site's content and lay it out on one page using javascript and 'display:none' waiting for an 'onClick', but that smells like spam.
EDIT, additional info as pertaining to the original question:
The search engine friendly way to display content dynamically is to load it, then hide it from the user.

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