What is the overhead performance penalty for running Session State Server instead of InProc? Is it significant? I understand that you can restart w3wp with the state server and retain all session state - is that the only advantage over InProc?
It depends on your deployment plans: on a single server, the penalty is small, but the benefit is equally limited: your session state survives process recycles (as mentioned) but that's about it. You'll have some cross process marshalling with StateServer mode, so expect some additional cpu load, nothing too impressive.
In a web farm/load balanced setup InProc won't work, unless you can configure sticky sessions/server affinity. Be mindful of the fact that the StateServer node itself can become a single point of failure, so be sure to compensate for that. Having said that, the latency of a StateServer is in general much less (= better) than when you use SQLServer mode.
Make sure that your code/site gracefully handles lost state, regardless of where you store the data.
If you have a load balance setup (without the use of sticky sessions) you cannot use InProc since (based on your load balance setup of course) you might switch between nodes.
Recycles of the worker process (but that is of course the same as restarting w3wp) will also kill your session when it is InProc.
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My first impression of AppFabric Cache is that it's essentially a distributed hashtable in the same vein as memcached. The typical usage pattern of such a cache is that there is no guarantee that your data will be in the cache (old entries are evicted to make space for new ones), but with sufficient RAM they usually will be.
On the other hand MS provide a Web Session State Provider that stores session data in an AppFabric Cache. This appears to be a completely different usage pattern as we now require the cached items to never be evicted as a result of memory pressure. To achieve this MS provide a high-availability mode that keeps redundant copies of all data, furthermore eviction can be disabled, which in turn requires us to allocate sufficient RAM to ensure that the cache never reaches capacity.
It seems likely that an application would benefit from using both types/modes of cache, but as far as I can tell AppFabric RAM cannot be ringfenced within a cluster or host, hence the web session state may (and generally will) experience memory pressure in that case. The only solution I can see is to operate two AppFabric Cache clusters, one for each mode.
Is the above a good representation of the situation or am I missing some config setting that addresses this scenario?
Storing a session in appfabric is not a good idea,have faced many problems trying this(like due to memory pressure data got lost, multiple users hitting the cache to put the data can lead to data loss etc.) and now started using inProc/SqlServer session state use.
In IIS application pool I have set 2 in maximum worker process in process model, will application object, session object and cache object will be shared by the all worker process or will all worker process have different application object, session object and cache object.
If you use in proc state management the session is kept in the running process. So if you have 2 or more workers processes your session will only work by chance. You can use SQL state management or State server.
Using a state server is pretty fast but if the stateserver fails or reboots all sessions will be lost. Using SQL server is somewhat slower but it has the benefit that the session will be all there after a reboot or any kind of interruption. So what to choose depends on your requirements. If you're running a e-comerce site or similar you could set up the sql server with clustering and multiple webservers to get a better uptime.
As for caching it is the same, the cache is kept in the worker process. Depending of how expensive it is build up objects in the cache you could use MemCached or something like it. But then you need to serialize/deseriliaze the cache objects and send them over the wire to another server, which could be quite expensive as well.
I have an ASP.Net website on IIS7 and I am planing to increase the MaxProcesses to match the number of cores on the server (4 cores, 64bit Windows Server 2008).
From what I read, if I increase the MaxProcesses to create a web garden I have to set an out-of-process state server, so I am planing to use the ASPState service to share sessions between worker processes.
But there is something that is not clear to me, is Caching also shared? Or do I have to set a new custom provider for the cache?
In-process cache is never shared in a web garden.
But here's the REAL thing... I question the motivations behind what you're doing. If the object is to use your cores more efficiently, then you can just increase the number of request and/or worker threads you have running your ASP.NET application. Running multiple w3wp processes isn't necessarily the option you want. If you have some constrained resource, like an old in-process COM object that scales poorly with threads, then I can see how you might scale better with multiple processes. But unless you really know what you're doing and why, gently step back from that setting and leave it at 1. ;-)
Caching is not shared. The web garden creates multiple "w3wp" processes. Each process will have its own cache.
If you want to share cache then use something like MemCached Win32 (with the Enyim cache client) or use the new MS product Velocity. This way once you move beyond one server you will already be set up architecturally to handle it.
I'm studying for a MS certification and one of the practice tests I'm doing has a question where the point of contention is the performance between storing the session in SQL Server as opposed to StateServer.
Given the app is running in a web farm, which solution for session state gives the best performance (SQL Server or StateServer) and most importantly, why?
State Server is faster because it stores session data in an in-memory dictionary. SQL Server is slower because it's stored in a database which persists data to disk.
SQL server is also slower because everything is stored in one table which leads to contention as more and more clients access/update the session data.
SQL server is more reliable because it is persisted to disk and can be set up as a cluster with failover capability.
See the preamble in this article for an indepth explanation.
A little, but important sidenote: InProc is not usable in a farm, as the name suggests, it runs in the current w3wp proces and cannot be shared across a farm. StateServer is a Windows service, so the speed of using StateServer is dependend on how fast the machine the stateserver service is running on, it is memory only. SQL of course needs to write the data and retrieve, which is probably slower than memory only.
From here:
In process. In process will perform best because the session state memory is kept within the ASP.NET process. For Web applications hosted on a single server, applications in which the user is guaranteed to be re-directed to the correct server, or when session state data is not critical (in the sense that it can be re-constructed or re-populated), this is the mode to choose.
Out of process. This mode is best used when performance is important but you can't guarantee which server a user will request an application from. With out-of-process mode, you get the performance of reading from memory and the reliability of a separate process that manages the state for all servers.
SQL Server. This mode is best used when the reliability of the data is fundamental to the stability of the application, as the database can be clustered for failure scenarios. The performance isn't as fast as out of process, but the tradeoff is the higher level of reliability.
From this link: http://www.eggheadcafe.com/articles/20021016.asp
Performance
InProc - Fastest, but the more session data, the more memory is
consumed on the web server, and that
can affect performance.
StateServer - When storing data of basic types (e.g. string, integer,
etc), in one test environment it's 15%
slower than InProc. However, the cost
of serialization/deserialization can
affect performance if you're storing
lots
of objects. You have to do performance testing for your own
scenario.
SQLServer - When storing data of basic types (e.g. string, integer,
etc), in one test environment it's 25%
slower than InProc. Same warning about
serialization as in StateServer.
So it would seem that StateServer is a little faster that SQL Server for storing session state.
In terms of the why, I'd suggest that the SQL Server is more multi-purpose and will likely be used for other things as well. Not only that but the storage mechanism is to disk, where as the StateServer is running in a separate process, yet it is simply storing the data in the memory space of the other process rather than having to write it to disk (virtual memory permitting)
SQL Server (In Memory) is the answer - available in SQL 2014
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/kenkilty/archive/2014/07/03/asp-net-session-state-using-sql-sever-in-memory.aspx
StateServer or SQLServer?
What is the best solution for storing ASP.NET session variables?
What are the pros and cons of each?
Are one better then other in any particular situation?
Here's some thoughts about pro's/con's.
I've also added Microsoft Velocity Distributed Caching solution.
Pros for InProc
Fastest optional available (it's all in memory/ram)
Easy to setup (nothing new required in the .config file .. i think this is the default behavior).
Most people I believe use this.
Cons for InProc
If the web site (application pool) dies, then all session info is lost.
Doesn't work in a WebFarm scenario -> session information is per app pool only.
Cannot contain non-session information.
Pro's for a StateServer
In memory/ram, so it's fast (but has some net latency .. read below), so it might not be as fast as Inproc.
Default configuration for a web farm scenario. Multiple iis sites use a stateserver to control the state session info.
Con's for StateServer
Requires the ASP.NET StateServer service to be set to run.
StateServer requires some config tweaking to accept 'remote iis machine' requests.
There's some tiny tiny net latency if the iis request needs to grab/set the session info on another networked machine.
Cannot contain non-session information.
Pro's for SqlServer (as a state server)
State is always retained, even after the iis site restarts.
Con's for SqlServer (as a state server)
Slowest solution -> net latency AND hard-drive latency (as the sql server stores the state on the harddisk / reads from the harddisk).
Hardest to setup/configure.
Cannot contain non-session information
Pro's for Velocity (or other distributed caching systems)
Can handle more than just session information -> objects, application settings, cache, etc. (This is a very GOOD thing IMO!!)
Can be memory only or persist to a database.
If one 'node' fails, the system still works. (assuming there's 2+ caching nodes)
Con's for Velocity (or other distributed caching systems)
Generally cost $$$
Hardest to setup (have to install stuff, tweak configs, add extra specal code).
Has network latency (which is generally nothing) but could have hard disk latency IF the service is persisting the data (eg. to a Sql Server).
I think the assumption would be that you are using a web farm of some sort.
One use of state service is in a Web Garden (multiple worker-processes on the same machine). In this case, you can use load-balancing to keep a user's connection going to a particular server, and have the n worker processes all sharing the same state service.
EDIT: In the web garden + state service or sql server scenario, you also have the benefit of being able to recycle the worker processes on that machine w/o the connected clients losing their session.
I'm not as familiar with using SQL Server as a session state store, but I would think you would gain robustness by using an SQL Server in a cluster. In this case, you could still have multiple worker processes and multiple servers, but you would not have to use a sticky session (server affinity).
And one more note, you can use state service on a second machine, and have all server in the farm hit that machine, but you would then have a single point of failure.
And finally, there are 3rd party (and some home-grown) distributed state-service-like applications. Some of these have performance benefits over the other options, plus Session_End event will actually fire. (In both State Service and SQL Server session backing, there the Session_End in Global.asax will not fire (there may be a way of hooking into SQL Server)).
In an n-tier environment, with SQL Server hosting session state you'll create additional network traffic to your back-end, as well as losing some SQL Server resources that will need to now take care of that additional traffic (session-related requests). SQL Server state management is also slower than state server.
However, if your servers go down in some unforeseen incident, SQL Server will most likely maintain the session information, as opposed to a state server.
In my personal experience I had a few problems storing in session variables. I kept loosing the session and I believe it was the anti virus, which, as it was scanning every file in the server, IIS would recompile the site killing the sessions. (I must say I had no power over that server, I was told to host the app there)
So I decided to store the session in the SQL Server and everybody is happy now... it is incredibly fast
Take a look at this article for a quick start up
Using a single machine to store state in a web garden means a single point of failure. We use SQL state, but it does add a bit of overhead.
In Proc is very Fast.
But having limitation. we can use single system only.
When the time of reboot the System, information will be lost.
worker processes in same machine
StateServer stored the session information in other machine.
Web Farm can use the session. for ex: multiple worker-processes can access the session information from server.
When the time of rebooting server, information will be lost.
SQLServer is used to store the info in Table. Default it will store in TempDB.
This tempdb will dynamically call after sqlservice is called.
So this also not persist the data. In this Scenario we can store in our own DB using Script, that is called Custom Option.