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(source: sontag.ca)
Part I
This layout can be done quite simply with 2 HTML tables, one nested inside the other, or even with a single table.
It can also be done with CSS, though it might involve a little more thinking.
This may not be a real world layout, but I have seen pages that are similar. Consider this a riddle; an exercise to buff up your CSS skills.
To make things a little more interesting, I have framed the question in a little 2 part web page called The Challenge. We will examine the code and the question: Layout with tables or CSS?, side-by-side, blow-by-blow, as our two opponents battle it out for code supremacy.
Part I lays out how The Challenge came to be. I hope you enjoy.
Part II is The Decision. You might be surprised.
Part II
I was amazed at how quickly really good answers appeared mere minutes after I posted. It was a humbling experience. I have no desire to compete in time trials with you.
BUT, all that being said, upon close examination of the solutions offered, I came to
realize that none of the CSS solutions (including my own at the time) worked as well as either of the table solutions offered. The Challenge was all about CSS being better than tables for any layout solution.
So I added 3 new rules (remember, one of the rules is that the rules can be changed). This annoyed some people. So then I added some colorful explanations about why the rules were changed. I think this annoyed them even more.
Our garden is to have a fence around it; something to set it apart from whatever dreary surroundings it may find itself in; and not too expensive, but easy to keep clean.
So I want a 1 pixel black border around the garden
Inhabitants of each garden plot (the characters) must be either black or white, depending on which shows them the best in their garden. Also they are all of cursive descent. There are no italics amoung them. ;-)
The garden is relocatable, that is, I can have this garden, anywhere on the page (no absolute positioning).
This is what the final output is to look like (background color optional):
(source: sontag.ca)
My apologies for the capricious and last minute rule changes. I had it wrong. The inhabitants of each garden plot are artisans, hand crafted specialists. They are descendants of the cursive family, and owe their sense of style to the italics.
The garden has to be relocatable because both kinds of gardens (table and CSS) need to coexist on the same page. I may be wrong to say that position:absolute rules are not allowed. If you can get them to work in this context, then more power to you. They will certainly be accepted.
I asked for a fence around the plot because each garden type is going to be planted in a countryside with an orange background very similar to the color of the some of the flowers we grow.
I live in Holland now, and the Tulip season is fast approaching. If you fly over Holland in the next few weeks, and it's a clear day (kind of rare here) the landscape below you will look rather similar to this silly exercise.
I'm not crazy about orange but I do like and admire the Dutch, so that is why we have an orange background, a tribute to my host country. :-)
Part III
I have posted Ted's table answer from The Challenge below along with this image
(source: sontag.ca)
because the occupants can be easily added to the garden plots without touching the CSS rules - everything is automatically centered.
Can you do this with CSS? Can you chop down the mightiest tree in the forest with... a herring?
Update: Charlie's answer is here.

Update: Final edit. Switched to STRICT DTD, removed italic to match the image in the question, and reverted back to full colour names for ids to show intent as per OPs comment on question, and sorted the main column of id names in the css into the order they appear in the html.
I also opted not to reused the outer div as the white 7 square (it didn't have it's own div in previous edits), as it wouldn't have been practical if you wanted to use the layout, and felt a little like cheating (although from a brevity/pixel perfect standpoint I liked the cheekiness of it).
View here: http://jsbin.com/efidi
Edit here: http://jsbin.com/efidi/edit
Validates as XHTML strict
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en" lang="en">
<head><title>The Challenge</title>
<style type="text/css">
div { text-align: center; width:175px; height:175px; line-height: 35px;}
div div { float:left; width: 35px; height: 35px;}
#orange, #maroon,
#blue , #green {float:right;}
#orange, #silver {background-color:silver; width:140px;}
#navy , #maroon {background-color:maroon; height:140px; line-height:140px;}
#navy {background-color:navy ;}
#green , #red {background-color:red ; width: 70px;}
#yellow, #blue {background-color:blue ; height: 70px; line-height: 70px;}
#yellow {background-color:yellow;}
#white {background-color:white ;}
#green {background-color:green ;}
#orange {background-color:orange;}
</style>
</head>
<body>
<div>
<div id="silver">1</div>
<div id="maroon">2</div>
<div id="navy" >3</div>
<div id="red" >4</div>
<div id="blue" >5</div>
<div id="yellow">6</div>
<div id="white" >7</div>
<div id="green" >8</div>
<div id="orange">9</div>
</div>
</body></html>
Aside: I would perhaps put a little more whitespace in if I could, but this is at the limit before the code blocks here on SO starts getting scrollbars and I opted to have it all appear on screen.
Note: I borrowed the line-height fix from Tyson (who was first to get a correctly rendering answer).

Here are three solutions.
The markup:
<div id="outer">
<div id="a1">1</div>
<div id="a2">2</div>
<div id="a3">3</div>
<div id="a4">4</div>
<div id="a5">5</div>
<div id="a6">6</div>
<div id="a7">7</div>
<div id="a8">8</div>
<div id="a9">9</div>
</div>
The basic stylesheet (dimensions and color):
#outer {
width: 20em;
height: 20em;
}
#a1 {
background-color: #C0C0C0;
width: 80%;
height: 20%;
}
#a2 {
background-color: #800000;
width: 20%;
height: 80%;
}
#a3 {
background-color: #000080;
width: 20%;
height: 80%;
}
#a4 {
background-color: #FF0000;
width: 40%;
height: 20%;
}
#a5 {
background-color: #0000FF;
width: 20%;
height: 40%;
}
#a6 {
background-color: #FFFF00;
width: 20%;
height: 40%;
}
#a7 {
background-color: #FFFFFF;
width: 20%;
height: 20%;
}
#a8 {
background-color: #008000;
width: 40%;
height: 20%;
}
#a9 {
background-color: #FFA500;
height: 20%;
width: 80%;
}
And now the positioning:
Using float:
#a1 {
float: left;
}
#a2 {
float: right;
}
#a3 {
float: left;
}
#a4 {
float: left;
}
#a5 {
float: right;
}
#a6 {
float: left;
}
#a7 {
float: left;
}
#a8 {
float: right;
}
#a9 {
float: right;
}
Using position:
#outer {
position: relative;
}
#outer div {
position: absolute;
}
#a1 {
top: 0;
left: 0;
}
#a2 {
top: 0;
right: 0;
}
#a3 {
top: 20%;
left: 0;
}
#a4 {
top: 20%;
left: 20%;
}
#a5 {
top: 20%;
right: 20%;
}
#a6 {
top: 40%;
left: 20%;
}
#a7 {
top: 40%;
left: 40%;
}
#a8 {
bottom: 20%;
right: 20%;
}
#a9 {
bottom: 0;
right: 0;
}
Using margin:
#a1 {
}
#a2 {
margin: -20% -80% 0 80%;
}
#a3 {
margin: -60% 0 0 0;
}
#a4 {
margin: -80% -20% 0 20%;
}
#a5 {
margin: -20% -60% 0 60%;
}
#a6 {
margin: -20% -20% 0 20%;
}
#a7 {
margin: -40% -40% 0 40%;
}
#a8 {
margin: 0 -40% 0 40%;
}
#a9 {
margin: 0 -20% 0 20%;
}

Here you go - less lines than any misuse of table tags can provide:
<img
src="http://sontag.ca/TheChallenge/tiles.gif"
alt="nine assorted coloured rectangles"
/>
:P

This matches your table example exactly, including the vertically and horizontally centered text (which no one else has done so far).
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en" lang="en">
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"/>
<title>Boxy Boxes in a Box</title>
<style type="text/css" media="screen">
#container {position: relative; margin: 100px auto; height: 175px; width: 175px; font-style: italic; }
.box {width: 35px; height: 35px; position: absolute; text-align: center; line-height: 35px;}
#box_1 {top: 0; left: 0; width: 140px; background-color: silver;}
#box_2 {top: 0; right: 0; height: 140px; background-color: maroon; line-height: 140px;}
#box_3 {top: 35px; left: 0; height: 140px; background-color: navy; line-height: 140px;}
#box_4 {top: 35px; left: 35px; width: 70px; background-color: red;}
#box_5 {top: 35px; right: 35px; height: 70px; background-color: blue; line-height: 70px;}
#box_6 {top: 70px; left: 35px; height: 70px; background-color: yellow; line-height: 70px;}
#box_7 {top: 70px; left: 70px; background-color: white;}
#box_8 {bottom: 35px; right: 35px; width: 70px; background-color: green;}
#box_9 {bottom: 0; right: 0; width: 140px; background-color: orange;}
</style>
</head>
<body>
<div id="container">
<div id="box_1" class="box">1</div>
<div id="box_2" class="box">2</div>
<div id="box_3" class="box">3</div>
<div id="box_4" class="box">4</div>
<div id="box_5" class="box">5</div>
<div id="box_6" class="box">6</div>
<div id="box_7" class="box">7</div>
<div id="box_8" class="box">8</div>
<div id="box_9" class="box">9</div>
</div>
</body>
</html>

As long as the widths and heights are constant, one can always use absolute positioning to get the same effect. This should be obvious enough, so that I don't have to type it out (it's late here and I'm lazy :P)

I took a slightly different approach than the "id everything" solutions I've seen so far. This comes in less than 100 chars more than the table based solution.
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en" lang="en">
<head>
<title>The Challenge</title>
<style type="text/css">
div {
position:absolute;
width:35px;
height:35px;
text-align:center;
line-height:35px
}
.spiral { width:175px; height:175px }
.t { top:0 }
.l { left:0 }
.r { right:0 }
.b { bottom:0 }
.w { width:140px }
.h { height:140px; line-height:140px }
.c {
top:35px;
left:35px;
width:105px;
height:105px
}
.c .w { width:70px }
.c .h { height:70px; line-height: 70px }
.c .c { width:35px; height: 35px }
</style>
</head>
<body>
<div class="spiral">
<div class="t l w" style="background-color:silver">1</div>
<div class="t r h" style="background-color:maroon">2</div>
<div class="b l h" style="background-color:navy">3</div>
<div class="c">
<div class="t l w" style="background-color:red">4</div>
<div class="t r h" style="background-color:blue">5</div>
<div class="b l h" style="background-color:yellow">6</div>
<div class="c">7</div>
<div class="b r w" style="background-color:green">8</div>
</div>
<div class="b r w" style="background-color:orange">9</div>
</div>
</body>
</html>
Edit: Based on your modifications I'm posting a slightly more verbose but hopefully clearer solution that adds a black border, sets some text to white, and does not absolutely position the "garden".
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en" lang="en">
<head>
<title>The Challenge</title>
<style type="text/css">
div {
position:absolute;
width:35px;
height:35px;
text-align:center;
line-height:35px
}
div.spiral {
position:relative;
width:175px;
height:175px;
border: 1px solid #000
}
.top { top:0 }
.left { left:0 }
.right { right:0 }
.bottom { bottom:0 }
.wide { width:140px }
.tall { height:140px; line-height:140px }
.center {
top:35px;
left:35px;
width:105px;
height:105px
}
.center .wide { width:70px }
.center .tall { height:70px; line-height: 70px }
.center .center { width:35px; height: 35px }
</style>
</head>
<body>
<div class="spiral">
<div class="top left wide" style="background-color:silver">1</div>
<div class="top right tall" style="background-color:maroon">2</div>
<div class="bottom left tall" style="background-color:navy;color:#fff">3</div>
<div class="center">
<div class="top left wide" style="background-color:red">4</div>
<div class="top right tall" style="background-color:blue">5</div>
<div class="bottom left tall" style="background-color:yellow">6</div>
<div class="center">7</div>
<div class="bottom right wide" style="background-color:green">8</div>
</div>
<div class="bottom right wide" style="background-color:orange">9</div>
</div>
</body>
</html>

No one here has given a table solution yet, and The Challenge is all about comparing CSS layouts to Table based layouts in a controlled (and heavily biased) scenario.
So here is Ted's Table Layout solution and his challenge...
"With my table based solution, it is very easy to add new inhabitants to the garden plots
by very simple additions to the HTML markup only! All inhabitants are automatically centered and spaced in a pleasing style. For example:"
(source: sontag.ca)
(source: sontag.ca)
"As far as I can tell, no CSS based solutions here can accomodate new inhabitants without extensive renovations to the CSS rules."
"Better bring lots of money boys, I'm feeling really hungry and thirsty now."
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<head>
<title>Terrible Ted's Table Layout</title>
<style type="text/css">
#master TD { text-align: center }
#master {
border: 1px solid black;
font: italic 100%/200% 'Comic Sans MS', cursive;
}
#silver { background-color:silver }
#maroon { background-color: maroon; color:white }
#navy { background-color:navy; color:white }
#red { background-color: red }
#blue { background-color:blue; color:white }
#yellow { background-color: yellow }
#green { background-color:green; color:white }
#orange { background-color:orange }
#white { background-color:white }
#silver, #red, #green, #orange, #white { height: 35px }
#maroon, #navy, #blue, #yellow, #white { width: 35px }
</style>
</head>
<body style="background-color:#ffb600">
<table id="master" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"
summary="layoutByTable"><tr>
<td id="silver" colspan="2" > 1 </td>
<td id="maroon" rowspan="2" > 2 </td>
</tr><tr>
<td id="navy" rowspan="2" > 3 </td>
<td>
<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"
summary="inner"><tr>
<td id="red" colspan="2" > 4 </td>
<td id="blue" rowspan="2" > 5 </td>
</tr><tr>
<td id="yellow" rowspan="2" > 6 </td>
<td id="white"> 7 </td>
</tr><tr>
<td id="green" colspan="2" > 8 </td>
</tr>
</table>
</td>
</tr><tr>
<td id="orange" colspan="2"> 9 </td>
</tr>
</table>
</body>
</html>

Single table solution.
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en" lang="en">
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" />
<meta http-equiv="Content-language" content="en" />
<title>The Challenge</title>
</head>
<body>
<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" summary="">
<tr>
<td colspan="4" height="35" align="center" bgcolor="silver"><i>1</i></td>
<td rowspan="4" width="35" align="center" bgcolor="maroon"><i>2</i></td>
<td rowspan="5" valign="bottom"><img src="http://sontag.ca/gif/grinch.gif" width="41" height="122" alt="Dr. Suess's Grinch"/></td>
</tr><tr>
<td rowspan="4" width="35" align="center" bgcolor="navy"><i>3</i></td>
<td colspan="2" height="35" align="center" bgcolor="red"><i>4</i></td>
<td rowspan="2" width="35" align="center" bgcolor="blue"><i>5</i></td>
</tr><tr>
<td rowspan="2" width="35" align="center" bgcolor="yellow"><i>6</i></td>
<td width="35" height="35" align="center"><i>7</i></td>
</tr><tr>
<td colspan="2" height="35" align="center" bgcolor="green"><i>8</i></td>
</tr><tr>
<td colspan="4" height="35" align="center" bgcolor="orange"><i>9</i></td>
</tr>
</table>
</body>
</html>
It is valid XHTML 1.0 Transitional and I've included Dr. Suess character :)
By stripping Dr. Suess character, the <?xml declaration, the meta-tags and the summary attribute you could cut it down to 929 characters and still be valid XHTML 1.0 Transitional.
Edit
As requested, XHTML 1.0 Strict
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en" lang="en">
<head>
<title>The Challenge</title>
<style type="text/css">
BODY {background: orange}
#garden {border: 1px solid black; color: black}
#garden TD {
font: italic 100% 'Comic Sans MS', cursive;
height: 35px;
padding: 0;
text-align: center;
width: 35px
}
#c1 {background: silver}
#c2 {background: maroon; color: white}
#c3 {background: navy; color: white}
#c4 {background: red}
#c5 {background: blue; color: white}
#c6 {background: yellow}
#c7 {background: white}
#c8 {background: green; color: white}
#c9 {background: orange}
</style>
</head>
<body>
<table id="garden" cellspacing="0">
<tr>
<td id="c1" colspan="4">1</td>
<td id="c2" rowspan="4">2</td>
</tr><tr>
<td id="c3" rowspan="4">3</td>
<td id="c4" colspan="2">4</td>
<td id="c5" rowspan="2">5</td>
</tr><tr>
<td id="c6" rowspan="2">6</td>
<td id="c7">7</td>
</tr><tr>
<td id="c8" colspan="2">8</td>
</tr><tr>
<td id="c9" colspan="4">9</td>
</tr>
</table>
</body>
</html>
970 non-whitespace characters, orange background, Dr. Suess's Grinch removed.

Brevity of markup....
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en" lang="en">
<head>
<title>The Challenge</title>
<style type="text/css">
.garden {
position: relative;
width: 175px;
height: 175px;
font-family: 'Comic Sans MS', cursive;
border: 1px solid;
color: #000;
}
.garden div {
position: absolute;
width: 35px;
height: 35px;
line-height: 35px;
text-align: center;
}
.garden div:first-child {
width: 140px;
background: silver;
}
.garden div:first-child + div {
right: 0;
height: 140px;
line-height: 140px;
color: #fff;
background: maroon;
}
.garden div:first-child + div + div {
top: 35px;
height: 140px;
line-height: 140px;
color: #fff;
background: navy;
}
.garden div:first-child + div + div + div {
top: 35px;
left: 35px;
width: 70px;
background: red;
}
.garden div:first-child + div + div + div + div {
top: 35px;
right: 35px;
height: 70px;
line-height: 70px;
background: blue;
}
.garden div:first-child + div + div + div + div + div {
top: 70px;
left: 35px;
height: 70px;
line-height: 70px;
background: yellow;
}
.garden div:first-child + div + div + div + div + div + div {
top: 70px;
left: 70px;
background: white;
}
.garden div:first-child + div + div + div + div + div + div + div {
top: 105px;
left: 70px;
width: 70px;
background: green;
}
.garden div:first-child + div + div + div + div + div + div + div + div{
bottom: 0;
right: 0;
width: 140px;
background: orange;
}
</style>
</head>
<body>
<div class="garden">
<div>1</div>
<div>2</div>
<div>3</div>
<div>4</div>
<div>5</div>
<div>6</div>
<div>7</div>
<div>8</div>
<div>9</div>
</div>
</body>
</html>
link

I think we've proved that there's more than one way to do this. The table tag and CSS are both viable options.
Rather than add another way to complete the challenge I'd just like to say that, whether it's easier or harder, simpler or more complex: tables in HTML should be used for displaying tabular data.
Tables are made for tabular data.
CSS is made for styling/presentation.

(source: sontag.ca)
I first did this exercise a little over 2 years ago when I was first learning HTML and CSS. My first solution was like the one you see here, except without the anonymous container DIVs. Then I got this idea for a web page that did a side by side comparison of CSS to a Table to prove CSS was better. So I worked on The Challenge page, published it, and then posted this question.
Sam Hasler posted an answer within minutes, it seems, that was really close. I could see he was on track for a better solution than what I had. All his divs were in order, and mine were not. Jacco posted a comment asking why I used two nested tables when one would do. He was right too, of course.
So I had two Homer Simpson "Doh!" moments right away. I read other questions and answers on tables vs. CSS. Someone mentioned that tables centered vertically. My answer did not center vertically either, but I thought it might be possible. The whole point, after all, is to do everything a table can do and better. I had painted myself into a corner by now, looking like a fool, so I had to find an answer.
Eventually (am embarrassed to say how long it was) I came up with the solution below.
I was then able to fulfill my original concept of a side-by-side comparison web page.
Here is an explanation of how it all works and why you should use CSS
Charlie's answer...
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<head>
<title>Charlie's CSS layout</title>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;charset=utf-8" />
<style type="text/css">
#outer {
width:175px; height:175px;
text-align:center;
font: italic 100%/200% 'Comic Sans MS', cursive;
border: 1px solid black;
}
#inner { width: 105px }
#outer>DIV, #inner>DIV { float:left }
#outer>DIV>DIV, #inner>DIV>DIV
{ display: table-cell; vertical-align: middle }
#c2 { clear: right }
#c3, #c6 { clear: left }
#c1>DIV, #c4>DIV, #c7>DIV, #c8>DIV, #c9>DIV { height: 35px }
#c2>DIV, #c3>DIV, #c5>DIV, #c6>DIV, #c7>DIV { width: 35px }
#c2>DIV, #c3>DIV { height: 140px }
#c1>DIV, #c9>DIV { width: 140px }
#c5>DIV, #c6>DIV { height: 70px }
#c4>DIV, #c8>DIV { width: 70px }
#c2, #c6, #c7, #c8, #c9 { position:relative; top:-35px }
#c9 { left: 35px }
#c1 { background-color: silver }
#c2 { background-color: maroon; color: white }
#c3 { background-color: navy; color: white }
#c4 { background-color: red }
#c5 { background-color: blue; color: white }
#c6 { background-color: yellow }
#c7 { background-color: white }
#c8 { background-color: green; color: white }
#c9 { background-color: orange }
/* these rules are a HACK to center vertically in IE7 */
#outer>DIV>DIV, #inner>DIV>DIV { position:relative; }
#c1>DIV, #c4>DIV, #c7>DIV, #c8>DIV, #c9>DIV { top: 10% }
#c5>DIV { top: 0% }
#c6>DIV { top: 30% }
#c2>DIV { top: 0% }
#c3>DIV { top: 15% }
</style>
</head>
<body>
<div id="outer">
<div id="c1"><div> 1 </div></div>
<div id="c3"><div>3<br/>3<br/>3</div></div>
<div id="inner">
<div id="c4"><div> 4 </div></div>
<div id="c5"><div> 5<br/>5 </div></div>
<div id="c6"><div> 6 </div></div>
<div id="c7"><div> 7 </div></div>
<div id="c8"><div> 8 </div></div>
</div>
<div id="c2"><div> 2<br/>2<br/>2<br/>2 </div></div>
<div id="c9"><div> 9 9 9</div></div>
</div>
</body>
</html>

Here is an example that doesn't use absolute positioning, doesn't use table-cell, and is valid in IE6-8, FF, etc.
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en" lang="en">
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;charset=utf-8" />
<title>Terrible Ted's Table Layout</title>
<style type="text/css">
#box{border:1px solid #000; width:175px; height:175px; color:navy; font-family:"Comic Sans MS"; font-size:13px; font-style:italic; text-align:center;}
div {float:left}
#c1, #c3, #c4, #c7, #c8, #c9{height:35px; line-height:35px}
#c2, #c3{height:140px;line-height:140px}
#c5, #c6{height:70px; line-height:70px}
#c1, #c9{width:140px}
#c2, #c3, #c5, #c6, #c7{width:35px}
#c4, #c8{width:70px}
#c6, #c7 {margin-top:-35px}
#c1{background-color:silver}
#c2{background-color:maroon; float:right}
#c3{background-color:navy}
#c4{background-color:red}
#c5{background-color:blue}
#c6{background-color:yellow}
#c7{background-color:white}
#c8{background-color:green}
#c9{background-color:orange}
</style>
</head>
<body>
<div id="box">
<div id="c1">1</div>
<div id="c2">2</div>
<div id="c3">3</div>
<div id="c4">4</div>
<div id="c5">5</div>
<div id="c6">6</div>
<div id="c7">7</div>
<div id="c8">8</div>
<div id="c9">9</div>
</div>
</body>
</html>

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How to position a table over a background using CSS?

I am in need of moving a set of tables up in my current document.
I have tried adjusting the margins in the CSS but cannot seem to get it right.
This is what I have:
This is what I am trying to achieve:
The max-width must be 700 px. I have it all set up, apart from the positioning of the tables (images) needing to be moved up onto the background image.
#charset "UTF-8";
/* CSS Document */
body {
margin-top:0;
padding-top:0;
background:#fff;
/*JTL ADDED - Limit container max width within BB Content Area*/
max-width:700px;
text-align:left;
margin-left:auto;
margin-right:auto;
/*End JTL */}
.background-pic {
background-image: url("Image Background.png");
height: 450px;
background-position: center;
background-repeat: no-repeat;
background-size: cover;
margin-bottom: -100px;
max-width: 700px;
}
h1{
padding-top: 50px;
text-align: center;
font-family: "bebas-neue";
font-weight: normal;
font-size: 50px;
color: #fff;
}
.col-welcome-1 {
float:left;
margin-left: 25px;}
.col-navmenu-1 {
float:right;
width: 250;
height: 255;
margin-right: 25px;
border-radius: 10px;
background: #252525;}
h2 {
color: #FFFFFF;
text-align: center;
font-weight: 200;
font-size: 24px;
font-family: Gotham, "Helvetica Neue", Arial, "sans-serif";
}
.navbuttons {
padding-left: 45px;
}
#footer {clear:both;text-align:left;padding:0 12px 2px 12px;background:#eee;
border-top:1px solid #502e74}
.redline {
border-bottom-style: solid;
border-bottom-color: #502e74;
border-bottom-width: 1px;
}
table { border-spacing: 0px; } /*JTL Added whole section*/
th, td { /*JTL Added whole section*/
padding-left: 5px;
padding-right: 5px;
padding-top: 0px;
padding-bottom: 0px;
} /*JTL Added whole section*/
a:link {color:#502e74}
a:visited {color:#036}
a:active {color:#502e74}
a:hover {color:#000;background:#ffc;text-decoration:none}
/* When the screen is less than 600 pixels wide, hide all links, except for the first one ("Home"). Show the link that contains should open and close the topnav (.icon) */
#media screen and (max-width: 600px) {
.topnav a:not(:first-child) {display: none;}
.topnav a.icon {
float: right;
display: block;
}
}
/* The "responsive" class is added to the topnav with JavaScript when the user clicks on the icon. This class makes the topnav look good on small screens (display the links vertically instead of horizontally) */
#media screen and (max-width: 600px) {
.topnav.responsive {position: relative;}
.topnav.responsive a.icon {
position: absolute;
right: 0;
top: 0;
}
.topnav.responsive a {
float: none;
display: block;
text-align: left;
}
}
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC>
<html lang="en">
<link href="Professional Development Getting Started Template Style.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css">
<head>
<meta charset="UTF-8" />
<meta name="viewport" content="width=device-width, initial-scale=1.0" />
<meta http-equiv="X-UA-Compatible" content="ie=edge" />
<link rel="stylesheet" href="https://use.typekit.net/mlt2oco.css">
<title>Professional Development Overview Template</title>
</head>
<body>
<div class="main-content">
<div id= "banner">
<div class="background-pic">
<h1>Professional Development<br>Overview</h1></div>
<table style="margin-left:auto; margin-right: auto; padding-bottom: 25px;">
<tbody>
<tr>
<td><div class="col-welcome-1"><img src="Welcome Video.png" alt="welcome video" class="rounded" width="320" height="255">
</div></td>
<td>
<div class="col-navmenu-1">
<blockquote>
<h2>NAVIGATION</h2>
</blockquote>
<div class= "navbuttons">
<img src="How to Navigate button.png" alt="How to Navigate Training " class="rounded" width="175" height="45">
<img src="track my progres button.png" alt="Track My Progress" class="rounded" width="175" height="45">
<img src="faq button.png" alt="How to Navigate Training " class="rounded" width="175" height="45">
<img src="access modules button.png" alt="How to Navigate Training " class="rounded" width="175" height="45">
</div>
</div>
</td>
</tr>
</tbody></table>
</div>
</div>
<div class="resource-content">
<table style="margin-left:auto; margin-right: auto;">
<tbody>
<tr>
<td>
<div class="col-resource-1"> <img src="FightforFreedom.png" alt="Salvation Army Justice Action Plan" class="rounded" width="165" height="97"></div></td>
<td><div class="col-resource-2"><img src="TNU Graduate Programs.png" alt="Link to Trevecca Gradate Programs" class="rounded" width="165" height="97"></div></td>
<td><div class="col-resource-2"> <img src="Trevecca's Master's in Organizational Leadership Program.png" alt="Trevecca's Organizational Leadership program" class="rounded" width="165" height="97"></div></td>
</tr>
</tbody></table></div>
<div id="footer">
<p class="xsmall"><strong>Trevecca Nazarene University</strong></p>
<p class="xsmall">Helpdesk Support Contact:Online Course Technical Support Site</p>
</div>
</body>
</html>
what I see is that your table content is outside your div class="main-content". I would suggest you to
put the table content inside class="main-content" by removing a closing div after h1 tag Professional DevelopmentOverview
delete closing div before class="resource-content".
rename css .background-pic to .main-content - that styling will make more sense.
But overall I think you have trouble with proper divs - thats causing a lit of trouble in your site and headache in styling process.
One option if you want your table overtop of other content is to change the position to absolute and adjust the top/right/bottom/left as you wish. For example:
.col-navmenu-1 {
position: absolute;
bottom: 20px;
left: 500px;
float:right;
width: 250;
height: 255;
margin-right: 25px;
border-radius: 10px;
background: #252525;}
Keep in mind you will have to adjust your media queries.

Two Column Div Layout: Left = Fluid, Right = Fixed and Scrollable

The layout for this is rather simple and easy to achieve and has been covered here a lot, my problem comes from when I want the right div to be scrollable.
I simply cannot get the left side to be fluid and statically positioned while allowing the right side to be a fixed width and scrollable.
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en" lang="en">
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" />
<style type="text/css" style="display: none !important;">
body {
margin: 0 0 0 0;
overflow: hidden;
}
#page-wrap {
background: white;
max-width: 100%;
}
#main-content {
background-color: #797979;
padding-right: 350px;
padding-top: 20px;
height: 100%;
float: left;
position: absolute;
}
#right-sidebar {
background-color: #cacaca;
width: 350px;
float: right;
overflow: auto;
height:100%;
}
</style>
</head>
<body>
<div class="page-wrap">
<div id="main-content">
<h2>Content Area</h2>
</div>
<div id="right-sidebar">
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</div>
<div style="clear: both;"></div>
</div>
</body>
</html>
Try this - jsFiddle
body {
margin: 0 0 0 0;
background-color: #797979;
/*overflow: hidden;*/
}
#page-wrap {
background: white;
max-width: 100%;
}
#main-content {
position:absolute;
right:200px;
left:0px;
padding:20px;
}
#right-sidebar {
background-color: #cacaca;
position:fixed;
overflow-y:scroll;
right:0px;
width:200px;
height:100%;
}

Empty anchor tag inside absolute positioned div IE

I have searched and searched and tried many of options to fix this "bug", and I cannot get it to work. I have a div that has a background image that is half-way hidden behind the wrapper. On hover, it animates towards the top. The link is inside an absolute positioned div, and has no text. On IE there is no "pointer", therefore making the link un-clickable. This works in Chrome/FF.
I've tried:
border-right 1px transparent (this i actually can get a "pointer"
on the far right, but it's so small
background:
url(/images/transparent.gif) 0 0 repeat; (yes i made a 1x1px trans
image)
put another div inside the anchor that has the background
image
z-index: 0 or 1 or 2
I would like the CSS/HTML fix for this, not javascript. Thanks so much!
CSS
#wrapper
{
width: 950px;
margin: 60px auto 40px;
background-color: #fff;
position:relative;
}
.login-btn
{
background: url(/images/btn-sprite.png) no-repeat 0 -48px;
height: 34px;
width: 98px;
}
#login-btn
{
position:absolute;
top:-15px;
right:20px;
z-index:-1;
}
#login-btn a
{
display:block;
width: inherit;
height: inherit;
background-image: url(/images/transparent.gif) 0 0 repeat;
}
HTML
<div id="wrapper" class="round">
<div id="login-btn" class="login-btn">
<a href="#">
</a>
</div>
.....
.....
Here is your code, i am attaching the image also please copy to youe image folder and test. i checked in ie8 and ie7 it is working fine.
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" />
<title>Untitled Document</title>
<style>
#wrapper {
width: 950px;
height:450px;
margin: 0 auto;
background-color: #fff;
border:#F33 solid thin;
position:relative;
}
#login-btn {
height: 33px;
width: 145px;
display:block;
position:absolute;
right:0;
top:5px;
}
#login-btn a:link, #login-btn a:visited {
background:url(images/btn-sprite.png) top left no-repeat;
height: 33px;
width: 145px;
display:block;
}
#login-btn a:hover {
background:url(images/btn-sprite.png) bottom left no-repeat;
height: 33px;
width: 145px;
display:block;
cursor:pointer;
}
</style>
</head>
<body>
<div id="wrapper">
<div id="login-btn">
</div>
</body>
</html>
i figured it out. in IE, you cannot have an anchor w/ a negative z-index, b/c it hides it behind the body or whatever, and the event doesn't get passed through. basically what I ended up doing is placing the anchor around the div (login-btn), and giving the div a z-index of -1, therefore relieving the z-index on the anchor
HTML
<div id="wrapper" class="round">
<a href="#" id="login-btn">
<div class="login-btn">
</div>
</a>
....
....
CSS
#wrapper
{
width: 950px;
margin: 60px auto 40px;
background-color: #fff;
position:relative;
}
.login-btn
{
background: url(/images/btn-sprite.png) no-repeat 0 -48px;
height: 34px;
width: 98px;
}
a#login-btn
{
display:block;
height: 34px;
width: 98px;
position:absolute;
top:-15px;
right:20px;
}
a#login-btn div
{
z-index: -1;
position:relative;
}

position:absolute within border-radius and overflow:hidden

I had a problem with border-radius in webkit browsers and found the solution at the following URL:
How to make CSS3 rounded corners hide overflow in Chrome/Opera
but iam using a another element with position: absolute; inside this
now I need to make the caption with rounded border too, but do not know how
note: i can't use another border-radius in caption, because this will have an animation
see the code with:
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd">
<html>
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">
<title>Problem</title>
<style type="text/css">
img {
border: 0;
}
a {
text-decoration: none;
}
.wrap-events {
float: left;
position: relative;
width: 500px;
height: 250px;
}
.events {
overflow: hidden;
-webkit-border-radius: 50px;
-moz-border-radius: 50px;
border-radius: 50px;
}
.caption {
position: absolute;
width: 100%;
bottom: 0;
color: #FFFFFF;
background-color: #151515;
font: 12px "Arial", Helvetica, sans-serif;
opacity: 0.6;
border-radius: 0 0 50px 50px; /* add border-radius to caption */
}
.caption p {
padding: 10px;
}
</style>
</head>
<body>
<div class="wrap-events">
<div class="events">
<a href="#">
<img src="http://www.cg-auto.com.br/forum/imagens/imagens_news/26c4dc4359edcfd4c6871ee1fa958539.jpg" alt="image">
</a>
<div class="caption">
<p>This is a caption</p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<button id="slide">Slide It!</button>
<script type="text/javascript" src="https://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/jquery/1.7.1/jquery.min.js"></script>
<script type="text/javascript">
$('#slide').click(function(){
$('.caption').hide().slideDown(2000);
});
</script>
</body>
</html>
cheers
That is a problem for now I think. May I suggest you use fadeIn() Instead. See a demo

Attempting to have a div container with bg extend vertically without scrollbars

What I want is to have a centered content column that has a bg with a long vertical gradient. It will most likely extend past the browser, however I don't want it to create scrollbars. I want it to act as if it were like the body background where it continues and is only revealed if the browser is larger or there is more content.
Looks like you need something like this. My example used tables, but you can try to replace it with div layout.
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd">
<html>
<head>
<meta content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" http-equiv="content-type">
<title>aruseni</title>
<style type="text/css">
body {
font-size: 14px;
font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;
color: #000;
background-color: #9b9b9b;
}
html, body{
margin:0;
padding:0;
height:100%;
border:none
}
a, a:link {
font-weight: bold;
color: #000;
}
a:visited {
font-weight: bold;
color: #444;
}
img {
border: 0;
}
table.site {
border: 0;
padding: 0;
border-spacing: 0;
margin: 0 auto;
width: 80%;
height: 100%;
min-width: 700px;
}
tr {
vertical-align: top;
}
td {
padding: 0;
}
td.left_side {
width: 200px;
}
td.right_side {
width: 200px;
}
td.content {
padding: 10px;
background-color: #fff;
background-image:url('gradient-1x2000.png');
background-repeat: repeat-x;
width: 200px;
}
</style>
</head>
<body>
<table class="site">
<tr style="padding: 0px;">
<td class="left_side"> </td>
<td class="content">
<p>Your contents go here. :)</p>
</td>
<td class="right_side"> </td>
</tr>
</table>
</body>
</html>
The gradient here is an image with 2000 height and 1 weight. The gradient starts in the top, and if the browser’s height is more than 2000 pixels (oh, really?), as “background-color: #fff;” specifies, the white colour is rendered.

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