Using Divs to display table-like data - css

I want to display data like the following:
Title Subject Summary Date
So my HTML looks like:
<div class="title"></div>
<div class="subject"></div>
<div class="summary"></div>
<div class="date"></div>
The problem is, all the text doesn't appear on a single line. I tried adding display="block" but that doesn't seem to work.
What am I doing wrong here?
Important: In this instance I dont want to use a table element but stick with div tags.

It looks like you're wanting to display a table, right? So go ahead and use the <table> tag.

I would use the following markup:
<table>
<tr>
<th>Title</th>
<th>Subject</th>
<th>Summary</th>
<th>Date</th>
</tr>
<!-- Data rows -->
</table>
One other thing to keep in mind with all of these div and list based layouts, even the ones that specify fixed widths, is that if you have a bit of text that is wider than the width (say, a url), the layout will break. The nice thing about tables for tabular data is that they actually have the notion of a column, which no other html construct has.
Even if this site has some things, like the front page, that are implemented with divs, I would argue that tabular data (such as votes, responses, title, etc) SHOULD be in a table. People that push divs tend to do it for semantic markup. You are pursuing the opposite of this.

I don't mean to sound patronizing; if I do, I've misunderstood you and I'm sorry.
Most people frown upon tables because people use them for the wrong reason. Often, people use huge tables to position things in their website. This is what divs should be used for. Not tables!
However, if you want to display tabular data, such as a list of football teams, wins, losses, and ties, you should most definitely use tables. It's almost unheard of (although not impossible) to use divs for this.
Just remember, if it's for displaying data, you can definitely use a table!

If there's a legitimate reason to not use a table then you could give each div a width and then float it. i.e.
div.title {
width: 150 px;
float: left;
}

Is there a reason to not use tables? If you're displaying tabular data, it's best to use tables - that's what they're designed for.
To answer your question, the best way is probably to assign a fixed width to each element, and set float:left. You'll need to have either a dummy element at the end that has clear:both, or you'll have to put clear:both on the first element in each row. This method is still not fool-proof, if the contents of one cell forces the div to be wider, it will not resize the whole column, only that cell. You maybe can avoid the resizing by using overflow:auto or overflow:hidden, but this won't work like regular tables at all.

or indeed this, which is very literally using tables for tabular data:
https://stackoverflow.com/badges

Just to illustrate the remarks of the previous answers urging you to use table instead of div for tabular data:
CSS Table gallery is a great way to display beautiful tables in many many different visual styles.

Sorry, but, I'm going to tell you to use tables. Because this is tabular data.
Perhaps you could tell us why you don't want to use tables?
It appears to me, and I'm sure to a lot of other people, that you're confused about the "don't use tables" idea. It's not "don't use tables", it's "don't use tables to do page layout".
What you're doing here is laying out tabular data, so of course it should be in a table.
In case you're unclear about the idea "tabular data", I define it like this: bits of data whose meaning isn't clear from the data alone, it has to be determined by looking at a header.
Say you have a train or bus timetable. It will be a huge block of times. What does any particular time mean? You can't tell from looking at the time itself, but refer to the row or column headings and you'll see it's the time it departs from a certain station.
You've got strings of text. Are they the title, the summary, or the date? People will tell that from checking the column headings. So it's a table.

The CSS property float is what you're looking for, if you want to stack div's horizontally.
Here's a good tutorial on floats: http://css.maxdesign.com.au/floatutorial/

display:block garauntees that the elements will not appear on the same line. Floating for layout is abuse just like tables for layout is abuse (but for the time being, it's necessary abuse). The only way to garauntee that they all appear on the same line is to use a table tag. That, or display:inline, and use only (Non-Breaking Space) between your elements and words, instead of a normal space. The will help you prevent word wrapping.
But yea, if there's not a legitimate reason for avoiding tables, use tables for tabular data. That's what they're for.

In the age of CSS frameworks, I really don't see a point of drifting away from table tag completely. While it is now possible to do display: table-* for whatever element you like, but table is still a preferred tag to format data in tabular form (not forgetting it is more semantically correct). Just pick one of the popular CSS framework to make tabular data looks nice instead of hacking the presentation of <div> tags to achieve whatever it is not designed to do.
display: block
will certainly not work, try
display: inline
or float everything to the left then position them accordingly
but if you have tabular data, then it is the best to markup in <table> tag
some reference: from sitepoint

You'll need to make sure that all your "cells" float either left or right (depending on their internal ordering), and they also need a fix width.
Also, make sure that their "row" has a fixed width which is equal to the sum of the cell widths + margin + padding.
Lastly make sure there is a fixed width on the "table" level div, which is the sum of the row width + margin + padding.
But if you want to show tabular data you really should use a table, some browsers (more common with previous generation) handle floats, padding and margin differently (remember the famous IE 6 bug which doubled the margin?).
There's been plenty of other questions on here about when to use and when not to use tables which may help explain when and where to uses divs and tables.

Using this code :
<div class="title">MyTitle</div><div class="subject">MySubject</div><div class="Summary">MySummary</div>
You have 2 solutions (adapt css selectors to you case):
1 - Use inline blocks
div
{
display: inline;
}
This will result in putting the blocks on the same line but remove the control you can have over their sizes.
2 - Use float
div
{
width: 15%; /* size of each column : adapt */
float: left; /* this make the block float at the left of the next one */
}
div.last_element /* last_element must be a class of the last div of your line */
{
clear: right; /* prevent your the next line to jump on the previous one */
}
The float property is very useful for CSS positioning : http://www.w3schools.com/css/pr_class_float.asp

The reason the questions page on stack overflow can use DIVs is because the vote/answers counter is a fixed width.

Tabular data can also be represented as nested lists - i.e. lists of lists:
<ul>
<li>
heading 1
<ul>
<li>row 1 data</li>
<li>row 2 data</li>
<ul>
</li>
<li>
heading 2
<ul>
<li>row 1 data</li>
<li>row 2 data</li>
<ul>
</li>
</ul>
Which you can layout like a table and is also semantically correct(ish).

For the text to appear on a single line you would have to use display="inline"
Moreover, you should really use lists to achieve this effect
<ul class="headers">
<li>Title</li>
<li>Subject</li>
<li>Summary</li>
<li>Date</li>
</ul>
The style would look like this:
.headers{padding:0; margin:0}
.headers li{display:inline; padding:0 10px} /The padding would control the space on the sides of the text in the header/

I asked a similar question a while ago Calendar in HTML and everyone told me to use tables too. If you have made an igoogle home page, just yoink their code.
I made a system of columns and sections within the columns for a page. Notice with google you can't have an infinite number of columns and that offends our sensibilities as object people. Here's some of my findings:
You need to know the width of the columns
You need to know the number of columns
You need to know the width of the space the columns inhabit.
You need to ensure whitespace doesn't overflow
I made a calendar with DIV tags because it is impossible to get XSL to validate without hard coding a maximum number of weeks in the month, which is very offensive.
The biggest problem is every box has to be the same height, if you want any information to be associated with a field in your table with div tags you're going to have to make sure the whitespace:scroll or whitespace:hidden is in your CSS.

Preface: I'm a little confused by the responses so far, as doing columns using DIVs and CSS is pretty well documented, but it doesn't look like any of the responses so far covered the way it's normally done. What you need is four separate DIVS, each one with a greater "left:" attribute. You add your data for each column into the corresponding DIV (column).
Here's a website that should help you. They have many examples of doing columns with CSS/DIV tags:
http://www.dynamicdrive.com/style/layouts/
All you have to do is extrapolate from their 2-column examples to your 4-column needs.

You should use spans with:
display:inline-block
This will allow you to set a width for each of elements while still keeping them on the same line.
See here, specifically this section.
Now, to appease the downvoters - of course tabular data should be in a table. But he very specifically does NOT WANT a table. The above is the answer to HIS QUESTION!!!

First display:block should be display:inline-block , Although you might have figured it out already.
Second you can also use display:table , display:table-cell , display:table-row and other properties.
Although these are not as good as using table.

Related

Do I need font-size:0?

In a previous question I got some excellent answers for placing 3 boxes in a row:
Can I place boxes three in each row, equally spaced and glued to container on left and right?
There is a nagging problem there. For the solution to work I have to put font-size:0 on the container. Which means I have to specify absolute values for fonts in the boxes.
Not really what I always want. Can I avoid that font-size:0?
Here is a new fiddle: http://jsfiddle.net/lborgman/BUYZ3/2/
Yes, you can avoid it by not leaving any whitespace in the markup between those elements..
One way to do that is to use html comments between the elements (in order to keep the code formatting you want)
<div id="container"><!--
--><div>one</div><!--
--><div></div><!--
--><div>three</div><!--
--><div>four</div><!--
--><div>five</div><!--
--></div>
demo at http://jsfiddle.net/BUYZ3/4/
The other is to just remove the whitespace
<div id="container"><div>one</div><div></div><div>three</div><div>four</div><div>five</div></div>
demo at http://jsfiddle.net/BUYZ3/5/
For this specific example you could also (more appropriate really..) float the elements..
float:left;
http://jsfiddle.net/BUYZ3/6/

dynamically adjust height of ui tag, html

I am trying to create a table view using ul tag in html. In the link I have used two li tags to create two column. I have used two images to show the spaces used by li tags, column dots and row dots. I have provided html, css and two images file.
images
index.html -> http://pastebin.com/d8nq8pfr
style.css -> http://pastebin.com/V7iR3ZqE
Now if you see the layout created by provided files, you can see the second row of the table layout has irregular height. Both the height is from different ul tags.
So my question, is there any way I can make both of the height same (obviously the highest should be considered to make equal height ;) )?
If this is tabular data, it should be in a table. You can make other elements behave like tables with some limitations (no rowspans/colspans, etc):
#title1, #title2 {
display: table-cell;
}
This does not work in IE7 or older.
Seriously consider whether this is tabular data - and if so, use <table>, <tr>, <td>, etc. Tables aren't evil, they just shouldn't be used for things that aren't tables. And the word "table" has a pretty broad definition... even using them for structuring forms isn't incorrect (although probably a bit of a semantic grey area).
However, if you decide that semantically this really is an unordered list, you can use the CSS table model to display elements "tabularly", by applying display: table, display: table-row and display: table-cell styles to the elements which could otherwise be <table>, <tr> and <td> elements respectively. See that link for the full set of values. These aren't supported in older browsers, mind (IE7 and earlier).
If you have to support IE7 (or even, god forbid, IE6), you'll have to resort to column layout patterns, which have thousands of articles dedicated to them around the internet.

Stacking two characters vertically in a table with no space between them

This should be really simple, but I can't figure it out. So: how do I get these two characters to merge up in a table?
〳 1st row, U+3033 VERTICAL KANA REPEAT MARK UPPER HALF
〵 2nd row, U+3035 VERTICAL KANA REPEAT MARK LOWER HALF
Those are used in the vertical writing of Japanese, and they're supposed to look like a big version of U+3031 VERTICAL KANA REPEAT MARK 〱 when combined. But simply setting border-spacing, padding, collapse etc isn't enough, since there's still space above and below the chars themselves. Failed attempt:
<table style='border-collapse:collapse'>
<tr><td>〳</td></tr>
<tr><td>〵</td></tr>
</table>
So how do I squeeze the juice out of the text? I suppose the ideal answer would be to use 'real' vertical writing capabilities in a browser, but as far as I can tell this is still a utopian draft.
You need to also use border-spacing: 0;. That along with padding:0; will help. They should match, however, depending on the padding the actual font character has, you might have to use a div, and set the height/width so that it clips.
You might be better off with Div's, if you are simply trying to display the character.
http://www.gateshosting.com/test/slash.html
<div>
<div style='border:0;padding:0;font-family:tahoma;font-size:15px;height:14px;'>/</div>
<div style='border:0;padding:0;font-family:tahoma;font-size:15px;height:14px;''>\</div>
</div>
Surely there has to be a solution if you search for it on a Japanese blog or something.
If you can wrap them in a span, then this works http://jsfiddle.net/zdqvM/5/ and the shift seems to be correct even at higher font-size: http://jsfiddle.net/zdqvM/6/.

CSS: How to get two DIVs side by side with automatic height, to the height of their container?

I am designing a website for a client, and I am trying to get two side-by-side DIVs to adjust to 100% of their container. I've got the side-by-side done, but I can't get the right DIV to be the same height as the left one.
You can view the problem here: http://www.campusmomlaundry.com/
The "challenges" and "benefits" DIVs should be side-by-side and the same height, without manually specifying the height. How can I do this?
Your problem is that the outer div is sizing automatically by the inner content, which is sizing automatically by its content.
You have couple of options:
Use the background solution mentioned in the #R0MANARMY answer to create the visual ilusion of two equally tall columns.
Set the height of the two inner divs to be the same exact number (using px or em)
Set the height of the outer div to an exact number.
Play with the display attribute and try couple of different values like table-cell and so on. Keep in mind that this one is not going to work in some older browsers. (Not only IE, but some old Firefox and Chrome releases as well)
Use simple table with one row and two columns.
I realize that the last one is the most controversial of all. Yet it is a possible solution for your problem and there's no reason why you shouldn't at least evaluate.
([groan] please, please, nobody mention the words "semantic HTML"! there's no such thing in our universe.)
There's an article on A List Apart on solving a similar problem, you could probably use that as a reference: Faux Columns.
If it was me. I would solve this problem via javascript. Using jquery you could do...
$(document).ready(function()
{
if($('#leftColumn').height() > $('#rightColumn').height())
{
$('#rightColumn').height($('#leftColumn').height());
}
else
{
$('#leftColumn').height($('#rightColumn').height());
}
});
That should do it. If your like the people I work with, and you don't like using Javascript for CSS problems. Then you are probably flat out of luck. Alot of the time, it is much faster just to use JQuery, then to use the "right way" using css. You could probably spend all day trying to get it to work with different combinations of styles.
Perhaps number of bullet points in the left DIV?
Have you tried: height: auto; or height: 100%;?

What is the best UI/CSS combination when displaying strings of unknown length?

I have a list of items that I am displaying in a floated list, with each item in the list at a fixed width so that there's two per row. What is the best practice to prevent this horrible thing from happening:
alt text http://x01.co.uk/floated_items.gif
Possibilites:
Trim to a specified number of characters before displaying the data. Requires guesswork on how many characters will be "safe".
Overflow: hidden. Hacky.
Remove the background and just have a top border on each item.
Possible but silly:
Have a scrollbar in each item by doing overflow: auto, this will look horrendous.
Add a background image to the container. It's not guaranteed that there's always an equal number of items so this option is out.
Any help on this irritating issue appreciated!
Are you using a fixed font size, i.e. specified in px? If not you also need to consider the various text size options of each browser which is probably going to make the concept of trimming the string redundant. If it is fixed then perhaps seeing how many Ws you can fit in and restricting your text to that -3 and appending an ellipsis, not sure what this list is for so that's one approach.
Personally I'd probably use overflow:hidden as that covers all eventualities and ensures that it'll always keep your layout consistent.
I guess the last option would be to keep a tight control over what can be added to the list and prevent the problem occuring in the first place. Prevention better than cure as they say, although probably unhelpfully.
There are scripts that help with this by comparing the li in blocks of two and making them both equal to the tallest.
Usually, rather than thinking what's best from a css point of view though, you should consider what presentation you want, then get the css/JavaScript to get you to your desired effect.
If this is something that you're just wanting out of the way, consider using a gradient background image that highlights the top of the li and suggests the block without actually filling it in.
Adding link to a jQuery solution: Equalize
One solution would be to have a alpha-based PNG that would slowly fade the text to the backgroundcolor of your container, on the last 10px or so. That would look good if some text are considerebly shorter than the long ones, however in the case where the text would be equal to the container it could look kinda silly.
Of course, in combination with display: hidden and white-space: no-wrap
From an accessibility point of view it's not a good idea to simply hide the title, since that could hide content on people who increase font sizes due to bad eyesight. Your design should be able to float when hit by bad resolutions or similar obstructions, even if it floats into something less pleasing to the eye.
Now if I understand your issue with the background image correctly, I believe your problem could be solved using the techniques describes in the ALA article on sliding doors, where the background image expands with the content.
Here's some controversy for you.. use a table?
Sounds like you have a grid of data to me, would a table answer this problem for you?
It also raises the question, do you actually want the items to be the same height, or just have the same amount of black background behind them? You could apply the black to the row's background, then create the centre white separator with borders and margins.
You could try using:
ul li{
display:block;
float:left;
width:6em;
height:4em;
background-color:black;
color:white;
margin-right:1em;
}
ul{
height:100%;
overflow:hidden;
}
div{
height:3em;
overflow:hidden;
background-color:blue;
}
Don't know about cross browser consistensy though.
EDIT: This is the html I'm assuming:
<div>
<ul>
<li>asdf
<li>asdf trey tyeu ereyuioquoi
<li>fdas dasf erqwt ytwere r
<li>dfsaklñd s jfañlsdjf ñkljdk ñlfas
<li>ksdflñajñldsafjñlksdjfñalksdfjlkdhfc,v.mxzn
</ul>
</div>

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