I am connecting external ADC to STM32L0 Microcontroller using SPI interface .
Will it be slower than using internal ADC .
External ADC might be faster but does SPI interface acts as a bottelneck.
Or any other way round to use external ADC
The speed of an ADC's conversion depends on how and what you measure:
How long does it take to initiate a conversion?
Some ADCs have an automated mode that repeatedly converts its input. Others need just a bit set, yet others need a whole command sequence.
How long does a conversion take?
There are different conversion algorithms, SAR, flash, you name it. Clocked conversions have a clock, and most clocked ADC have some overhead cycles for sampling etc.
How long does it take to fetch the result?
This depends mainly on the interface. You mention SPI, so its clock rate and the number of bytes to exchange add to this. There are ADCs with a parallel interface.
Therefore, to decide whether this or that ADC is faster, you need to calculate all of these values. You might get a butt feeling after some examplary calculations, though.
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I'm working with the efm32gg380f1024 on a project.
I currently use the BURTC timer (ULFRC clock) as tick source and I would like to use the normal RTC timer(LFRC clock) as well.
Do they exclude each other or can I use both the same time?
I was wondering if someone has already experience with the GG-series of silicon labs and give me some hints?
also what I'm wondering, I do have both LFXO and HFXO on my board currently not used. when I initialize the external clock setup, can I disable the interal rcos since they are not used (??) and just need energy.
the target is battery powered and each uWs counts..
thanks
You have a couple of questions here.
Yes you can use the LETIMER (which is what I think you mean when you say LERTC) peripheral independently of the RTC. They are separate peripherals, but note that the LETIMER is clocked from the same clock as the RTC.
As for using the external crystal oscillators, you need only enable the clocking sources that you actually use. However, clocking sources and entry/exit of the various low power energy modes interact. It can be rather tricky and complex. I suggest you use emlib to control these peripherals and in particular to enter and exit lower power energy modes.
If power consumption is important to you, note that high frequency clocking of the processor core consumes lots of power. Of course this must be traded off with how long you remain awake before going back to a lower power mode and with any real time requirements you might have for processing. Pushing off work to peripherals and using DMA to perform data movement is generally a win. Expect to do a good bit of tuning and you will need ways to accurately measure the power consumption. Using internal RC oscillators for clocking may be sufficient and a lower power approach. The low frequency external crystals tend to be 32 KHz clock crystals and don't consume that much power. They are a good alternative to the internal RC oscillators if you need better frequency stability.
I have been using the Teensy 3.6 microcontroller board (180 MHz ARM Cortex-M4 processor) to try and implement a driver for a sensor. The sensor is controlled over SPI and when it is commanded to make a measurement, it sends out the data over two lines, DOUT and PCLK. PCLK is a 5 MHz clock signal and the bits are sent over DOUT, measured on the falling edges of the PCLK signal. The data frame itself consists of 1,024 16-bit values.
My first attempt consisted a relatively naïve approach: I attached an interrupt to the PCLK pin looking for falling edges. When it detects a falling edge, it sets a bool that a new bit is available and sets another bool to the value of the DOUT line. The main loop of the program generates a uint_16 value from these bits and collects 1,024 of these values for the full measurement frame.
However, this program locks up the Teensy almost immediately. From my experiments, it seems to lock up as soon as the interrupt is attached. I believe that the microprocessor is being swamped by interrupts.
I think that the correct way of doing this is by using the Teensy's DMA controller. I have been reading Paul Stoffregen's DMAChannel library but I can't understand it. I need to trigger the DMA measurements from the PCLK digital pin and have it read in bits from the DOUT digital pin. Could someone tell me if I am looking at this problem in the correct way? Am I overlooking something, and what resources should I view to better understand DMA on the Teensy?
Thanks!
I put this on the Software Engineering Stack Exchange because I feel that this is primarily a programming problem, but if it is an EE problem, please feel free to move it to the EE SE.
Is DMA the Correct Way to Receive High-Speed Digital Data on a Microprocessor?
There is more than one source of 'high speed digital data'. DMA is not the globally correct solution for all data, but it can be a solution.
it sends out the data over two lines, DOUT and PCLK. PCLK is a 5 MHz clock signal and the bits are sent over DOUT, measured on the falling edges of the PCLK signal.
I attached an interrupt to the PCLK pin looking for falling edges. When it detects a falling edge, it sets a bool that a new bit is available and sets another bool to the value of the DOUT line.
This approach would be call 'bit bashing'. You are using a CPU to physically measure the pins. It is a worst case solution that I see many experienced developers implement. It will work with any hardware connection. Fortunately, the Kinetis K66 has several peripherals that maybe able to assist you.
Specifically, the FTM, CMP, I2C, SPI and UART modules may be useful. These hardware modules are capable of reducing the work load from processing each bit to groups of bits. For instance, the FTM support a capture mode. The idea is to ignore the PCLK signal and just measure the time between edges. These times will be fixed in a bit period/CLK. If the timer captures a two bit period, then you know that two ones or zeros were sent.
Also, your signal seems like SSI which is an 'digital audio' channel. Unfortunately, the K66 doesn't have an SSI module. Typical I2C is open drain and it always has a start bit and fixed word size. It maybe possible to use this if you have some knowledge of the data and/or can attach some circuit to fake some bits (to be removed later).
You could use the UART and time between characters to capture data. The time will be a run of bits that aren't the start bit. However it looks like this UART module requires stop bits (the SIM feature are probably very limited).
Once you do this, the decision between DMA, interrupt and polling can be made. There is nothing faster than polling if the CPU uses the data. DMA and interrupts are needed if you need to multiplex the CPU with the data transfer. DMA is better if the CPU doesn't need to act on most of the data or the work the CPU is doing is not memory intensive (number crunching). Interrupts depend on your context save overhead. This can be minimized depending on the facilities your main line uses.
Some glue circuitry to adapt the signal to one of the K66 modules could go a long way to making a more efficient solution. If you can't change the signal, another (NXP?) SOC with an SSI module would work well. The NXP modules usually support chaining to an eDMA module as well as interrupts.
This question may looks like little dump. sorry about it.
I saw Now day routers communicate few Gbps. but now day mcu's running speed lower than 4 GHz per second. Please explain How do they do this magic.
No magic at all :) They use specialized hardware which is only controlled by a (sometimes) small processor. So, they don't have to process every bit and byte but only tell the specialized hardware how to handle those bytes.
Take a look at a policeman standing in the middle of a crossing. He (the controller) just has to signal the drivers (specialized hardware) when and where to go. They handle the rest of it.
Also this hardware could use parallelization in data processing, meaning it could handle many bytes within one cycle, multiplying the throughput in comparison to the actual speed.
And: We have hybrid technology now where you have a cpu and specialized hardware modules on the same chip (like a microcontroller with rs232, spi and ethernet support). Same thing.
Hope this helps!
I am using Arduino UNO board. I have 24 analog channel which gives me 0~5v analog out put. Now my problem is I have only 5 analog channel. I wanted to read value from each channel for every 2 min and then switch to other channel. Can anyone suggest me in Hardware how can get analog value ?
I am planning to use 8:1 multiplexer or 16:1 multiplexer . Will it is correct way of doing it. Can you suggest other way of doing it in hardware ?
74HC4051,74HCT4051,ADG708,MD14051B,
IC I am planning to Use.dep[end on so,s1,s2 just switch the channel
As a start, you might need to know that even Arduino Uno also have internal MUX. In my experience of reading multiple analog channel, this is the approach that I take. However by taking this approach, I suggest you to recheck the analog value so adding MUX will not generate any error or bias.
This could be done by comparing the output of measurement with the MUX and output of measurement without the MUX. I used 74HC4051 and it works brilliantly, just make sure not to leave any pin floating. The only disadvantage of this method is that you will need to use some I/O to control the MUX, but if that is not an issue for you, then go ahead.
Any other method could be more complicated. It would require your analog channels to correlate with each other, and you need to find a way method to combine multiple analog channel into a single channel.
e.g: if your aim is to compare two analog value, instead of measuring the value and comparing the value in software, you could make use of op-amp comparison circuit to compare the value for you and take the comparison result instead.
Use the photon-pixel coupling method, it is a new approach in science for sampling an unlimited number of sensors in parallel.
Basically, each sensor output is an LED. If you have 10000 sensors, the output of all of them is inserted in a LED array, a LED matrix as the authors say. After that, the LED array is filmed by a video camera and the images are processed in real time by a computer. A software reads one pixel from each LED from the LED array and converts it to numerical values. So, your LED array will be converted in a matrix (with 10000 elements) filled with numbers that can be processed as you wish in your software. I don't know if I was explicit but you can read their article here: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2215016119300901
Note that classic multiplexing is serial, this approach is parallel.
The photon-pixel coupling method is truly ingenious because it solves two main problems in engineering: an unlimited number of sensors and their parallel sampling at video rate frequencies. Just imagine, we can read as many sensors as we wish. What I wander is if we can adapt the photon-pixel coupling to Arduino. I am new in the world of microcontrollers but I know Arduino can support a cam, so it should be possible.
If you are a PhD student then:
P.A. Gagniuc, C. Ionescu-Tirgoviste, R.G. Serban, E. Gagniuc. Photon-pixel coupling: A method for parallel acquisition of electrical signals in scientific investigations. MethodsX, 6:968-979, 2019.
To read more analog channels than inputs you have, an analog multiplexer is a good option. All the ones you suggested will work, but personally, I like the Analog Devices ICs for analog circuits, so I would take the ADG708, but this is just a personal preference.
I have a PIC24 based system equipped with a 24 bit, 8 channels ADC (google MCP3914 Evaluation Board for more details...).
I have got the board to sample all of the 8 channels, store the data in a 512x8 buffer and transmit the data to PC using a USB module when the buffer is full (it's is done by different interrupts).
The only problem is that when the MCU is transmitting data (UART transmission interrupt has higher priority than the ADC reading interrupt) the ADC is not sampling data hence there will be data loss (sample rate is around 500 samples/sec).
Is there any way to prevent this data loss? maybe some multitasking?
Simply transmit the information to the UART register without using interrupts but by polling the bit TXIF
while (PIR1.TXIF == 0);
TXREG = "the data you want to send";
The same applies to the ADC conversion : if you were using interruptions to start / stop a conversion, simply poll the required bits (ADON) and thats it.
The TX bits and AD bits may vary depending on your PIC.
That prevents the MCU to enter an interrupt service routine and loose 3-4 samples.
In PIC24 an interrupt can be assigned one of the 8 priorities. Take a look at the corresponding section in the "Family Reference Manual" -> http://ww1.microchip.com/downloads/en/DeviceDoc/70000600d.pdf
Alternatively you can use DMA channels which are very handy. You can configure your ADC to use the DMA, and thus sampling and feeding the buffer won't use any CPU Time, same goes for UART I beleive.
http://ww1.microchip.com/downloads/en/DeviceDoc/39742A.pdf
http://esca.atomki.hu/PIC24/code_examples/docs/manuallyCreated/Appendix_H_ADC_with_DMA.pdf