I'm working in a scheduler web application and my client (Angular) and server (Asp.net core) timezones are different.
The client is in any timezone. Let´s use (GMT-3).
The server is UTC.
Let´s suppose this case:
One user schedule an event to it´s local time at 08:00AM.
When send this information to serve, it will save 11:00AM in database.
So, when user retrieve this information, client will convert back to 08:00AM due to -3 hours timezone.
But, if this schedule was made to a date in future, when client's country will be in daylight saving, it will convert back to -2 hours. So it will converted to 09:00AM to the client, and that is wrong.
How to deal with daylight saving time when I get dates from server?
Simply, date and times should be stored in UTC. You can always get from UTC back to the user's time. The problem with storing a datetime with an offset is that the offset is not contextual. For example, let's assume that the user is in DST with a timezone that is normally -3 offset from UTC. As such, their current offset is -2. You store the -2 offset, and now what? Is it -2 because they're in a zone that's -2 or is it -2 because it's a -3 zone in DST. There's no way to know. In effect, you've failed to capture critical information.
You don't have this issue with datetimes stored in UTC. You can simply get the user's current time, including their current offset (DST or not) and compare that with the times in your data store. You may need to convert the user time to UTC first, but in many case you do not. For example, the DateTimeOffset type is smart enough to be able to compare taking offset into account. Many databases support this as well for offset-capable column types.
If I understand the issue correctly, you want to keep the server using UTC stored date/times and have the client display local time while handling the DST. I recommend using the angular2-moment, Moment & Momemt-Timezone npm packages. This package will be able to automatically handle the DST when you provide the iana_timezone like America\Chicago.
moment.tz(<utc-date-time>, <iana-timezone>).format()
This will handle all the necessary conversions you need in the client.
See Stackblitz example
Also checkout the Moment Timezone Docs
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Working on flutter/dart project. Calling cloud function from client side and passing 2 dates which are converted toISO8601String.
Printing dates to console while executing cloud-function to double check. They are always valid. After creating document in firestore, the dates are shifted by 1 hour.
I guess because of my current timezone offset which is UTC+1. In summer I had same issue where firestore was shifting my dates by 2 hours because of summer time, resulting in offset UTC+2.
My cloud-functions are deployed at region: europe-west3, which according to firebase docs is Frankfurt. Same time zone as mine (Central European Standard Time). But when I create:
const now = new Date();
Result is one hour less than my local time. Why is that when we are in the same time zone with same offset?
Reading documents from firestore on client side results in inaccurate dates, which is pretty bad for me since I need it to be accurate.
I was searching everywhere but didn't find anything that really helped me. I was trying to construct the date object with many ways but the result was always the same, can somebody please explain me why and help me out? Thanks.
The Java Object Date does not actually contain timezone information, it's just a number of milliseconds since the "epoch" (01.01.1970 00:00:00 UTC) and thus an absolute point in time. It's converted into a valid time every time it's output to a user.
So it seems that the reason for the time shift is that your PC or the browser you are viewing your firestore documents from is set to the wrong timezone.
For further information, take a look at this question or the java documentation.
I have a simple mobile app that schedules future events between people at a specified location. These events may be physical or virtual, so the time specified for the event may or may not be in the same timezone as the 'location' of the event. For example, a physical meeting may be scheduled for two people in London at local time 10am on a specified date. Alternatively, a Skype call may be scheduled for two people in different timezones at 4pm (in one person's timezone) on a specified date though the 'location' of the event is simply 'office' which means two different places in different timezones.
I wonder the following design is going to work for this application:
On the client, it asks user to input the local date and time and specify the timezone local to the event.
On the server, it converts the local date and time with the provided timezone into UTC timestamp, and store this timestamp only.
When a client retrieves these details, it receives the UTC timestamp only and converts it into local time in the same timezone as the client's current timezone. The client's current timezone is determined by the current system timezone setting, which I think is automatically adjusted based on the client's location (of course, assuming the client is connected to a mobile network).
My main motivations for this design are:
UTC is an absolute and universal time standard, and you can convert to/from it from/to any timezone.
Users only care about the local date and time in the timezone they are currently in.
Is this a feasible design? If not, what specific scenarios would break the application or severely affect user experience? Critiques welcome.
For a single event, knowing the UTC instant on which it occurs is usually enough, so long as you have the right UTC instant (see later).
For repeated events, you need to know the time zone in which it repeats... not just the UTC offset, but the actual time zone. For example, if I schedule a weekly meeting at 5pm in Europe/London with colleagues in America/Los_Angeles, then for most of the year it will occur at 9am for them... but for a couple of weeks in the year it will occur at 8am and for a couple of weeks in the year it will occur at 10am, due to differences in when DST is observed.
Even for a single event, you might want to consider what happens if time zone rules change. Suppose I schedule a meeting for 4pm on March 20th 2018, in the Europe/London time zone. Currently that will occur with a UTC offset of 0... but suppose between now and the meeting, the time zone rules change to bring British Summer Time in one hour earlier. If I've written it in my diary as 4pm, I probably don't want the software to think that it's actually at 5pm because that's the UTC instant we originally predicted.
We don't know your exact application requirements, but the above situations at least provide an argument for potentially storing the local time and time zone instead of the UTC instant... but you'll also need to work out what to do if the local time ends up being skipped or being ambiguous due to DST changes. (When the clocks fall back, some local times occur twice. When the clocks skip forward, some local times are skipped. A time that was unambiguous may become invalid or ambiguous if the rules change between the original planning time and the actual event. You should probably account for this in your design.)
To keep it simple, my answers are:
Timezone info is redundant if you want to define a single moment. A
UTC/Unix timestamp completely defines a moment.
Your design seems feasible but on point 2: i would convert to the UTC/Unix timestamp on the client-side and already give this timestamp
in its final form to the server. Reason: the client-side already has the info necessary to convert (see this time-keeping
client-server-db
architecture
example - it works based exactly on the principles you describe).
One possible problem (as described by Jon Skeet in his answer) are recurring events, but this should be reflected in the way you model
time. The difference between recurring events and fixed events is
that the latter completely define a moment (like a UTC/Unix
timestamp) while the first are only a 'function' which can be applied
to the current time to get the next trigger time of the recurring
event. But this might entirely be a different problem than what
you ask - in any case, somehow distinguishing between recurring
events (if you need them) and fixed events in your model is a good
idea.
One decision to make is: PULL or PUSH? Or both? Do you want the server to be able to send emails for example, when an event comes to
pass? Or do you want client-side alerts only when your client-side
app is running? The answers to these questions will help you come
towards a design suitable for you.
I would like to be able to display time based on the user's current time zone. I will be storing times in UTC format in my database, but wish to normalize these to the client's time zone. So far the option that seems most viable is to capture the clients time and then deteremine the difference between that and current UTC and use that delta to normalize times when rendering. I would like to know if there are any more straight forward options available to detect and normalize a UTC time to that of the requesting client's machine.
I would use the javascript dateObject.getTimezoneOffset(). Even if their time isn't set accurately, hopefully they've set their timezone:
http://www.w3schools.com/jsref/jsref_getTimezoneOffset.asp
You can use this value to calculate an offset between the server's time and the client's time. (as Jason helpfully pointed out in a comment below)
In addition to, or instead of using getTimezoneOffset, you should consider permitting the user to specify preferred timezone in their profile. For instance, a user may be visiting in one timezone, yet may prefer to see time displayed in his home timezone.
Also, if this were as simple as calling a JavaScript function, then sites would never have to ask for your timezone.
A much better approach is to store per-user the exact time zone the user is in (and optionally) allow them to select if they observe daylight savings time (if it's applicable to their time zone.) You can of course, automatically fill in the DST information (based on the time zone) if you wanted.
You'd have to make this part of the sign-up or possibly in their "options".
I am trying to determine, how I should implement local time in a web-app. All users are logged in, there are no anonymous users. They will need to see all time-values in their local time.
Is this how it should be done?
All DateTime values are saved as UTC-time in database
Each user has a UTC-Offset value stored in his profile
When displaying a datetime-value, I take the value from the database, and apply the users offset.
Is this the way to go? Or am I missing something?
Don't store a UTC offset for the user - that's not enough to know the full time zone information. You should store their Olson time zone ID, e.g. "Europe/London". Then you can display any UTC time in the local time, taking into account historical changes, daylight savings etc.
EDIT: It looks like the TimeZoneInfo ID isn't actually in the normal Olson format - but so long as there's something sensible you can display to the user (as a choice), and an ID you can retrieve the zone from later on, that's probably okay... you may have difficulties if you need to interoperate with other systems later though.
You should ask the user for their time zone (possibly trying to guess it first through JavaScript) - they will have more information than you do.
You should investigate the TimeZoneInfo class for more on this - I can't say I've used it much myself, but it's the way to go as of .NET 3.5. In particular, FindSystemTimeZoneById and GetSystemTimeZones will be important.
Time zones are a pain in general, but at least TimeZoneInfo gives a lot more support than the old TimeZone type.
That sounds like the most straightforward way to me. The only slip ups I could see occurring are some areas (such as parts of Indiana and I think all of Arizona) don't cooperate with daylight savings time, so you'll have to take extra precautions displaying the correct time for them.
I have an asp.net webservice with a parameter of type datetime. I have noticed asp.net seems to offset the date based on the clients timezone.
I need to disable this functionality. I simply want to pass a date (i.e. 3/15/2009) to the webservice from javascript without any timezone context.
Is my only option to change the parameter type to string then convert it server side, or is there some way to disable the deserializer from offsetting my date param ?
I'd use a string.
It kind of makes sense - a DateTime is really a "point in time", so when two clients are talking about the same DateTime, they're talking about the same INSTANT. So saying "the meteor will hit earth in 5 minutes", should adjust itself to the timezone.
You could use a UTC date instead: http://www.java2s.com/Code/JavaScript/Date-Time/GetUTCDate.htm
I had exactly this "problem" and when I thought it through, I realized that the way it worked was indeed correct, at least for my scenario. In my case, I was receiving an activeFrom and activeTo date. These can only be dates (no time part) when I actually submit these values to the processor. Our web server is in Eastern Time. I happened to be testing from a client in Central Time. My test case was failing because the value stored in the database did not match what I sent (EG 04/01/2009 01:00 vs 04/01/2009 00:00).
I thought about just stripping off the time part. This seemed OK until I considered a request coming in from a time zone east of Eastern (which would happen becuase we have clients in Thailand). I was upset because the resulting date would be one day before the date sent in the request. Then I realized, that's exactly the date I want to use.
Hopefully your scenario will work out as serendipitously as mine.