We have a system running Windows Server 2008R2 x64 and SQL Server 2008R2 x64 with SSRS installed/configured. This is a shared reporting server used by a large number of people, with some fairly large inefficient databases (400-500gb of data ish), and these users use the system to generate ad-hoc reports based of a reporting model that sits on top of the aforementioned databases. Note that the users are using NTLM to logon and identify for running reports.
Most reports are quick, but if you are running a report for 1 or 2 years worth of data, they can take a while to return (5minutes ish). This is fine for most users, however some of the users are stuck behind a proxy, which has a connection timeout set at 2minutes. As SSRS 2008R2 does not seem to send back a "keep-alive" signal (confirmed via wireshark), when running one of these long reports the proxy server thinks the connection has died, and as such it just gives up and kills the connection. This gives the user a 401 or 503 error and obviously cancels the report (the incorrect error is a known bug in SSRS which Microsoft refuse to fix).
We're getting a lot of flak from the user's about this, even though it's not really our issue..so I am looking for a creative solution.
So far I have come up with:
1) Discovering some as yet unknown setting for SSRS that can make it keep the connection alive.
2) installing our own proxy in between the users and our reports server, which WILL send a keep-alive back (not sure this will work and it's a bit hacky, just thinking creatively!)
3) re-writing our reports databases to be more efficient (yes this is the best solution, but also incredibly expensive)
4) ask the experts :) :)
We have a call booked in with Microsoft Support to see if they can help - but can any experts on Stack help out? I appreciate that this may be a better question for server fault (and I may post it there) but it's a development question too really :)
Thanks!
A few things:
A. For SSRS overall on it's service:
I personally use a keep alive service as I believe the default recycle is 12 hours for SSRS server. I use a tool someone turned me onto called 'VisualCron' that can do many task processes automatically. You can also just make a call in a WCF service or similar to. Basically I know the first report from a user for the day is generally slow. Usually you need to hit http:// (servername)/ReportServer to keep it alive.
B. For cachine report level items:
If this does not help I would suggest possibly caching DataSets when possible. Some people have data that is up to the moment but for a lot of people that is not the case. You may create a shared dataset in SSRS and then cache that on a schedule. So if you have domain like tables that only need to be updated once in a blue moon put them there. Same with data that is nightly or in batches. If you are transactional based shop that is up to the moment this may not help but for batch based businesses this can help tremendously.
You can also cache the reports for their data as a continuation of this. Under 'Manage' drop down for a report when in the /Reports landing page you can set the data to run under a specific schedule. You can also set a snapshot which is an extension of this as it executes with some default parameters set on a schedule and is a copy of the report when it was ran.
You are mentioning ASP.NET so I am not certain how much some of this will work if you are doing this all through a site you are setting up internally as a pass through. But you could email or save files on a schedule as well through SSRS's subscription service.
C. Change how you store your data for reporting.
You can create a Report Warehouse of select item level values of queries. Create a small database that is just a few recent years of data and only certain fields and certain tables. Then index it to death and report off of that. In my experience this method will fly in terms of performance but it does take the extra overhead of setting it up. Generally most companies will whine about this but it often takes a single day to set up and then you create one SSMS job that does it all nightly or an SSIS package then you don't worry about it. I like this method as I know my data is not being reported off of production and is isolated personally.
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I need some information from you.I have used session.TimeOut=540 in application.Is that effects on my Application performance after some time.When number of users increases its getting very slow. response time nearly more that 2 minutes for a button click also.This is hosted in server in Application pool .I don't know about Application pool much.If Session Timeout is the problem i will remove it.Please suggest me the way to for more users.
Job Numbers,CustomerID,Tasks will come from one database.when the user click start Button then the data saved in another Database.I need this need to be faster for more Users
I think that you have some page(s) that make some work that takes time, or for some reason or a bug is keep open for more time than the usual.
This page is keep lock the session and hold the rest page from response because the session holds all the pages.
Now, together with the increase of the timeout this page is lock everything and here is you response time near to 2 minutes.
The solution is to locate the page that have the long running problem and fix it or make it faster by optimize the process, or if this page must keep the long time running, then disable the session for that one.
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Web app blocked while processing another web app on sharing same session
What perfmon counters are useful for identifying ASP.NET bottlenecks?
Replacing ASP.Net's session entirely
Trying to make Web Method Asynchronous
Does ASP.NET Web Forms prevent a double click submission?
About server
Now from the other hand, if your server suffer from hardware, or bad setup then here is one other answer with points that you need to check to make it faster.
Find out where the time is spent
add the StopWatch in the method which you said "more that 2 minutes for a button click". you can find which statment spent the most time.
If it is a query on DB that cost time. Check your sql statement.
are you using "SELECT Count(*)" instead of "SELECT Count(Id)"? the * is always slower. also, don't try "SELECT * FROM...."
Use cache.
there are many ways to do cache. both in ASPX pages and your biz layer.
the OutputCache is the most easy way.
and also, cache the page (for example a blog post) on the first time when a user visit it.
Did you use memory paging?
be careful when doing paging on gridview or other list. If you just call DataSource=xxx and DataBind(), even with PagedDataSource, this is likely a memory paging. It cost a lot of performance. Please use stored procedures to do paging.
Check your server environment
where did you deploy the website? many ISP will limit brandwide and IIS connection count and also CPU time to your account.
if you have RD access to your server. you can watch CPU and memory usage to see if they are high when many user comes to your site. If the site is slow and neither CPU nor memory useage is high, it may be a network brandwide problem.
Here are some simple steps to narrow down the issue -
1) Get HTTPWatch (theres a free Basic version) available and check whats really taking time from an end user perspective. Look at number of requests, number of resources downloaded, and the payload. If there is nothing to worry move on to next
2) If its not client, then its usually the processing time on the server. Jump on to DB first - since this is quite easier to eliminate quickly. Look at how many DB calls are made (run profiler in staging or dev) and see if there are any long running queries, missing indexes or statistics, and note the IO. If all is well, move on
3) Check your app code. You could get on with VS.NET in build profiler or professional tools such as Ants. If code is fine then its your network or external calls that you make, check your network bandwidth. If you still cannot narrow down, check your environment/hardware
The best way to get to it is to apply load - You could use simple tools such as ab.exe (that comes as part of Apache Web server) to have concurrent hits on your server and run the App, DB profilers in the background to get to the issue.
Hope this helps!
Our company has people in every catastrophic event here in the U.S. and parts of Canada. An example is they were quite prevalent in Katrina immediately after the event.
We are constructing an application to improve their job in the field which may be either ASP.NET or WPF, and the disconnect requirement makes us believe it will be a WPF application. Our people need to be able to create their jobs, provide all of the insurance and measurement data, and save it as if in the database whether or not the internet is available.
The issue we are trying to get our heads around is that when at catastrophic events our people need to be able to use our new application even when the internet is not available. (They were offline for 3 days in Katrina)
Has anyone else had to address requirements like this and suggestions on how they approached functioning on small-footprint devices while saving data as if they were still connected to the backend services and database? We also have to incorporate security into this as well, and do it well enough that their entered data loads into the connected database without issues.
Our longterm goal is to also provide this application for Android and IPad Tablet devices as well as laptops. Our initial desire for ASP.NET was it gave us an immediate application for the tablet environment. In the old application they have, they run a local server, run remote connections on the tablets and run the application through terminal server. Not pretty. Not pretty.
I feel this is a serious question that is not subjective so hopefully this won't get deleted.
Our current architecture on the server side is Entity Framework with a repository pattern, WCF services to satisfy CRUD requests returning composite data transfer objects, and a proxy for use by the clients.
I'm interested in hearing other developers' input and this design puzzle.
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Lots of good information provided!!! I'll have to look at Microsoft Sync for sure. For the disconnected database I would be placing only list tables (enumerations) in the initial database. Jobs and, if needed, an item we call dry books, will be added for each client we are helping. (though I hope the internet returns by the time we are cleaning and drying out the homes) These are the tables that would then populate back to the host once we have a stable link. In the case of Katrina we also lost internet connectivity in our offices which meant the office provided no communication relief for days as well.
Last night I realized that our client proxy is the key to everything working! The client remains unaware of the fact that it is online or offline and leaves the synchronization process within that library. We are discovering how much data we are talking about today. I also want to make it clear that ASP.NET was a like-to-have but a thick client (actually WPF with XAML) may end up being our end state.
Now -- for multiple updates. The disconnected work will be going to individual homes by a single franchise. In fact our home office dispatches specific franchises to specific events. So we have a reduced likelihood (if any) of the problem of multiple people updating a record. The reason is that they are creating records for each job (person's home/office/business) and only that one franchise will deal with it. Of course this also means that if they are disconnected for days that the device that creates the job (record of who, where, condition, insurance company, etc) is also the only device that knows of the job. But that can be lived with. In fact we may be able to have a facility to sync the franchise devices on a hub.
I'm looking forward to hearing additional stories of how you've implemented your disconnected environment.
Thanks!!!
Looking at new technology from Microsoft
I was directed to look at a video from TechEd 2012 and thought I might have an answer. The talk was on using ASP.NET and MVC4 along with 2 libraries for disconnected behavior. At first I thought it would be great but then as it continued it worried me quite a bit.
First the use of a javascript backend to support disconnected I/O does not generate confidence. As a compiler guy (and one who wrote two interpretive languages) I really do not like having a critical business model reliant upon interpretive javascript. And script at that! It may be me but it just makes me shudder.
Then they show their "great"(???) programming model having your ViewModel exist as just javascript. I do not care for an application (asp.net and javascript) that can be, and may as well be (for lack of intellisense ) written in notepad.
No offense meant to any asp lovers, but a well written C# program that has been syntactically and type checked gives me stronger confidence in software than something written with a hope and prayer that a class namespace has been properly typed without any means of cross check. I've seen too many hours of debugging looking for a bug that ended up in a huge namespace with transposed ie in it's name. I ran my thought past the other senior developers in my group and we are all in consensus on this technology.
But we continue to look. (I feel this is becoming more of a diary than a question) :)
Looks like a perfect example for Microsoft Sync Framework
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/sync/bb736753.aspx
A comprehensive synchronization platform that enables collaboration
and offline access for applications, services, and devices with
support for any data type, any data store, any transfer protocol, and
any network topology.
I often find that building a lightweight framework to fit my specific needs is more beneficial to me than using an existing one. However, always look at what's available and weigh the pros and cons before making that decision.
I haven't use the Microsoft Sync Framework, but it sounds like that's a good one to research first. If you have Sql Server Standard (or some other version other than the Express version) then replication might also be an option.
If you want to develop your own homegrown solution, then be sure to put lastupdated and dateadded fields on any tables that need to stay in sync. It doesn't 'sound' like your scenario will be burdened by concurrency issues (i.e. if person A and B both modify a field at the same time, who wins?). If that's the case then developing your own lightweight solution will be pretty straightforward.
As Jeremy pointed out, you will need a way to get the changes. In addition to using a web service, you can also use WCF which is similar to a web service in some ways. But my personal bias would be towards just accessing a SQL server remotely over the internet. The downside of that solution is added security concerns, while the upside is decreased development overhead (i.e. faster/easier development now and less maintenance over time). Also, the direct SQL solution is also assuming that this is an internal application... that you're in charge of all development and not working with 3rd parties who need access to your data and wouldn't be allowed to access it this way.
Not really a full answer but too much for a comment.
I have two apps one that synchs one way and the other two way.
I do a one way synch to client for disconnected operation. At the server full SQL Server and at the client Compact Edition. TimeStamp is a prefect for finding any rows that needs to be synched. I also don't copy the whole database as some of the largest table are non nonessential. The common use is the user marks identified records they want to synch.
If synch does what you need great +1 for Jakub. For me I don't have the option to synch the whole MSSQL both based on size and security.
Have another smaller application that synchs two way but in this case it has regions and update are only within the region. So a region only synchs their data and in disconnected mode they can only add new records. Update to an existing records must be performed in connected mode. That was mangeable. In that case MSSQL for the master and used XML for the client.
No news to you but the hard part of a raw synch is that two parties may have added or revised the same record.
I'm looking to create a webpage that will reflect the status of one of my company's servers automatically. Frequently there will be a minor error that only lasts 2-3 minutes, and it would be great to have this reflected on a self-generated page, which might prevent 50-60 unhappy clients from calling in simultaneously and asking what's wrong.
I'm not quite sure where to begin - would anyone have a suggestions for good resources to study? Programming examples? I'm not referring to the basics of writing an ASP.NET page, of course, but rather process interaction in Windows.
Thanks.
To pull this off, you'd need a separate page that essentially runs server diagnostics, otherwise the page wouldn't know if it was up or down. Also, the page would need to be isolated from the sort of problems that are kill other people's requests, such as cache hit problems, memory starvation, high CPU usage, insufficient bandwidth. So ideally the diagnostics would run in a separate app-pool, separate virtual directory, separate machine.
Many of the interesting diagnostics would require a WMI call, but some you can get from the My.Computer namespace.
Also, are you going to do this on every server, or do you want one web server to display the status of several different servers?
It also depends on the type of errors your servers are encountering.
If they are going down completely, or are losing internet connection, then pinging them after an interval of time will let you know if they are up or not.
If you have a specific process running on a server that becomes unavailable, that can be a little more tricky.
Your best bet is to find a way to do a simple request from the services/applications that are important and see if you get a response, if you do, the server is likely up, if not, then it is likely not.
Anything you can do to reduce the number of support calls you get is a good idea, but I'd also focus some time and try to figure out why your servers are going down so often.
Also, telling your users that the server is down, but not giving a reason why may not give the effect you are looking for. Users will still be confused and frustrated when they can't get their work done.
I know you were looking to build a webpage to display the server diagnostics, but there are plenty of server monitoring tools that produce webpages for an easy dashboard view of the history.
A quick google returned the following link:
http://www.webdesignbooth.com/10-really-useful-server-monitoring-tools/
We had huge performance problem when deploying our ASP.NET app at a customer, which had the DB sitting on a remote location.
We found that it was due to the fact that pages made ridiculous amount of individual SQL queries to the DB. It was never a problem we noticed because usually, the web and DB are on the same local network (low latency). But on this (suddenly) low latency configuration, it was very very slow.
(Notice that each sql request by itself was fast, it is the number and serial nature of the sequence that is the problem).
I asked the engineering team to be able to report and maintain a "wall of shame" (or stats) telling us for each page the number of SQL requests so we can use it as a reference. They claim it is expensive..
anyone can tell me how to be able to maintain or get such report cheaply and easily?
We are using SQL Server 2005
We have a mix of our own DB access layer and subsonic
I know and use the profiler, but that is a bit manual. Asking here if there is a tip on how to automate or maybe I am just crazy?
If you are on SQL Server, read up on Profiler.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms187929.aspx
Running profiler from the UI is expensive, but you can run traces without the UI and that will give you what you want.
First, check out SubSonic's BatchQuery functionality--it might help alleviate alot of the stress in the first cut without getting into material modification of your code.
You can schedule trace jobs/dumps from the SQL server's end of things. You can also run perfmon counters to see how many database requests the app is serving.
All that said, I'd try and encourage the customer to move the database (or a mirrored copy of the database) closer to your app. It is probably the cheapest solution in the long term, depending on how thick the app is.
I have had good success using this tool in the past, not sure if the price is right for you but it will uncover any issues you may have:
Spotlight on SQL Server
The MiniProfiler (formerly known as the MVC mini profiler; but it works for all both MVC and Webforms) is a must in such a case IMO. If the code creating the database connections is well architectured it's a piece of cake to get it running for almost any ASP.NET application.
It generates a report on each rendered page with profiling stats, including each SQL query sent to the database for the request. You can see it in action on the Stack Exchange Data Explorer pages (top left corner).
We are building an extranet loan status check website using ASP.NET MVC with a WCF backend. Its a pretty standard design with the MVC site using a WCF service reference to get customer objects. The ervice uses an Oracle backend + http binding, and won't be hosted on the same server as the MVC site (so we can't use tcp binding to reduce latency).
The problem we encountered is that every call to the service is resulting in a 7-8s response time which is unacceptable for an extranet site and much higher than the 2s magic mark. The service method(s) call 12 stored procedures to create the customer object. The database is, unfortunately, denormalized (we can't change it as its also used by other inhouse production systems) so most of the calls are basic select statements which populate the customer object and its associated objects. The service proxy is properly opened and closed/disposed in the MVC actions so there are no instances of any service connection leaks. A new client proxy is created for every request (i.e., we are not using the singleton pattern for the service).
Any ideas how we can speed this up ?
Thanks
It sounds like you already know where the problem is - it's the database.
I've never heard of a WCF operation taking more than a fraction of a second to set up and tear down, excluding any logic inside. So even if you could shave off 1-2 seconds of latency (which is probably an optimistic estimate), that doesn't really help if the database operation takes 5-6 seconds by itself.
Honestly? Running 12 stored procedures to create a customer is completely off-the-wall. The purpose of a stored procedure is to encapsulate all of the logic necessary to perform a complex database operation. The very first thing you need to do is change this to be one stored procedure - then if it's still slow, profile the database to see what's taking so long and fix it accordingly. Usually poor database performance is due to one or more missing indexes.
Until you accurately measure what is really happening, don't be too quick to assume where the bottleneck is.
You really need to do an Oracle extended SQL trace to see where that slowness is coming from. Anything other than that is mostly guesswork. Here is a paper from Cary Millsap (of Method R and formerly of Hotsos) that you can download that details doing this:
http://method-r.com/downloads/doc_details/10-for-developers-making-friends-with-the-oracle-database-cary-millsap