Im working on asp.net website.
In some pages I'm saving the datatable into chache as
cache["dt"]=dt;
and using whereever I want in that page by fetching from chache.
I'm thinking that whenever session close I want to clear session in session_end event of global.asax file.
as cache["dt"]=null;
What is the better location to close either application_end or session end.
If I close in session_end will it affect to another user?
Please provide me clear helpful info regarding this.
Thanks
Since you are putting the datatable in Cache, meaning, that it's shared by all the users, then there's no right place/need to do this, since the only time when it actually needs to be removed is when the application ends and at that point all resources are freed; your application is no longer running.
Perhaps what you should/meant to do was to put the datatable in Session. If that is what you want, then you could remove it OnSession_End in Global.asax but know that SessionEnd is not guaranteed to fire. You can also do Session.Abandon() when the user logs out, which will clear all session objects.
I think you misunderstood the concept between Application Data, Session Data, and Cache. These three of them all different things.
Application Data/State stores the information available in application scope, i.e. all session/user can access these data.
Session Data store info for the current session data. The duration of the session can be specified in the configuration files.
Cache stores frequently used data. And this data may be costly to regenerate every time.
In your case, since you are using cache, I assume that this cache stores some frequently used data. Ideally, this cache should always be valid, as long as the information does not changes.
As such, my recommendations is to keep this cache value as long as possible.
Related
I'd like to store a few variables which will be referenced throughout lifecycle, starting with a db access in PreInit event. ViewState isn't an option, since it won't persist if saved so early during the page lifecycle. Given that data should not be altered by a user, what would be the best alternative?
You could use the Session to store your data. I am not sure on the number of users of your system, but assuming the data you want to store is small this won't be a problem.'
Also, unless you are using a SessionPageStatePersister (or another server side persister) or encrypting your ViewState it is still possible for the user to change the ViewState. It may be harder, but it is still possible. By default ViewState uses HiddenFieldPageStatePersister and it stores the ViewState in a hidden field on each page (as an encoded string). Just something worth considering.
Depending on the scope: Session or Application
Session
If you want the data stored per user
Application
If you want the data stored available for all users
You could store data in hidden fields, and if you want to obscure it, you could use some kind of encription. Of course these values would also only load in a later stage of the page lifecycle. The session object would be the obvious choice, although it's not everybody's favourite method.
Session probably wouldn't be available at PreInit, but you could store them in variables until a later page lifecycle task, and then store them in session at that time. I could be wrong about the session feature. Additionally, cache is an option but caching is not user-specific; you can make it user specific by appending their user ID or session ID.
Session is probably your best bet. We have to use the session to store some user information, but hit a bug due to accessing it too early. The bug is [HttpException]: Session state has created a session id, but cannot save it because the response was already flushed by the application." But it will often manifest as PageRequestMangerParserErrorException. Super fun hunting that down. One hackish fix is to write into your Global.asax code behind:
public Session_Start(object sender, EventArgs e)
{
string sessionId = Session.SessionID;
}
Accessing the SessionID forces the ASP.NET engine to go build the session before it normally would, making it possible to use it early.
Outside of session (or application) you have two other options: client storage and persistent storage. The latter is a fancy way of saying "stuff it in the database", though similar alternatives exist, of course.
Client Storage is like viewstate, but more controlled. You can use hidden fields or cookies. In fact, a cookie might work out well for you, but you'll need to encrypt the information in it if you want the user to leave it alone. Regardless, anything you send to the client you must assume is compromised, so always do a validity check.
I am searching to find a way to read and write on session data but with out having the HttpContext. Current.
Why I won to do that ? because I wish to make some action with the user Session after the page have been close and unloaded.
For example, a user load and see a page, then I create a thread to make some action and let user go. Inside this thread I like to read the session data, but in this case HttpContext . Current is not exist any more.
So is there a way to read Session Data knowing just the session id.
I store my session inside an SQL server, and I see them. its there on table ASPStateTempSessions :)
How can I read them "offline" and manipulate them ?
Thank you in advanced.,
Still not quite clear why you might want to do that but you might not actually need to do it on Session_End(). At that point, it may be too late for you to work with the session data anyway (I've read some articles before about this). What might be a better solution is to actually attempt to work on the session data when your application actually has the context.
For example:
There's nothing to stop your application creating an asynchronous request on a new thread in the background (or even a different application, such as a Windows Service, for instance) when the specific session variable that you want is updated or has been set. This way, your application will be able to access the current HttpContext as well as all of the session data.
Not sure if this helps, but it was worth a shot ;)
Richard.
I may be a little late but...
Today I found about the:
System.Web.HttpRuntime.Cache
I know is not the same that a session but I think it's much better alternative that db.
Regards.
I have a List of objects in an asp.net page. when the page loads in the browser for the first time, I fetch data from the database, create objects with those data and populate the list. All these are done inside the page load event handler. Now when the page is posted back to the page, the previous list is gone, since the variables were all freed.
How can I cache that List, so that when this page is posted back, all my objects are available?
As #Eilon asked, is this data user-specific or is it site specific?
If the data is user specific you can use the Session State to store it, however it will expire when the users session ends, and in some cases can still invoke a roundtrip to your database server (if for instance it is backed by SQL server instead of being in-proc, etc).
If the data is application wide you can also use the Application Cache. It is site wide, resides in the process domain and is therefore available to everyone who has sessions on that server. Special care must be taken when using this in a multi-server scenario, but it is easily doable.
It should be noted that the Application Cache (and any other global setup) can make your app load slow for the first user to hit the site if the setup takes time. IIS7 and ASP.NET have attempted to address this with a module released recently that periodically wakes your app up to ensure that the global cache is either pre-populated, or remains alive.
Use Cache.Add(key_name, list_object, ...) to save the list, and then Cache[key_name] to retrieve it (you will need to cast the retrieved object to the appropriate type). The Add method has several more parameters to specify if and when the cached object expires.
The Cache object is actually System.Web.Caching.Cache and is accessible from your aspx page, or as HttpContext.Current.Cache.
if it's only relevant for this page, i would use the ViewState.
The syntax is familiar if you used sessionstate before:
to set:
ViewState["Persons"] = new List<Person>();
to read
List<Person> persons = ViewState["Persons"] as List<Person>;
The viewstate data is only kept for this page, but is sent as (serialized) text with your page, so don't use it for 1000 Persons because your page will be a very large download .
If you have lots of data, you're better of using the Cache object, but only if you're not on a web farm and remember to clear the data once in a while when you no longer need the data and use a cache key per user if it is per user data.
Last you can use the Session state, it is a per-user store, but remember to clear the data once in a while when you no longer need the data.
So, a lot to choose from depending on the situation.
Michel
use HttpContext.Current.Session.
To add to GrayWizard's answer, you can use viewstate too, but since it's included in postbacks, make sure you're not persisting something that takes up alot of space or needs to be secure since it's not encrypted by default.
Here's an overview - it's dated, but still relevant.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/cc300437.aspx
I recently came across a ASP 1.1 web application that put a whole heap of stuff in the session variable - including all the DB data objects and even the DB connection object. It ends up being huge. When the web session times out (four hours after the user has finished using the application) sometimes their database transactions get rolled back. I'm assuming this is because the DB connection is not being closed properly when IIS kills the session.
Anyway, my question is what should be in the session variable? Clearly some things need to be in there. The user selects which plan they want to edit on the main screen, so the plan id goes into the session variable. Is it better to try and reduce the load on the DB by storing all the details about the user (and their manager etc.) and the plan they are editing in the session variable or should I try to minimise the stuff in the session variable and query the DB for everything I need in the Page_Load event?
This is pretty hard to answer because it's so application-specific, but here are a few guidelines I use:
Put as little as possible in the session.
User-specific selections that should only last during a given visit are a good choice
often, variables that need to be accessible to multiple pages throughout the user's visit to your site (to avoid passing them from page to page) are also good to put in the session.
From what little you've said about your application, I'd probably select your data from the db and try to find ways to minimize the impact of those queries instead of loading down the session.
Do not put database connection information in the session.
As far as caching, I'd avoid using the session for caching if possible -- you'll run into issues where someone else changes the data a user is using, plus you can't share the cached data between users. Use the ASP.NET Cache, or some other caching utility (like Memcached or Velocity).
As far as what should go in the session, anything that applies to all browser windows a user has open to your site (login, security settings, etc.) should be in the session. Things like what object is being viewed/edited should really be GET/POST variables passed around between the screens so a user can use multiple browser windows to work with your application (unless you'd like to prevent that).
DO NOT put UI objects in session.
beyond that, i'd say it varies. too much in session can slow you down if you aren't using the in process session because you are going to be serializing a lot + the speed of the provider. Cache and Session should be used sparingly and carefully. Don't just put in session because you can or is convenient. Sit down and analyze if it makes sense.
Ideally, the session in ASP should store the least amount of data that you can get away with. Storing a reference to any object that is holding system resources open (particularly a database connection) is a definite scalability killer. Also, storing uncommitted data in a session variable is just a bad idea in most cases. Overall it sounds like the current implementation is abusively using session objects to try and simulate a stateful application in a supposedly stateless environment.
Although it is much maligned, the ASP.NET model of managing state automatically through hidden fields should really eliminate the majority of the need to keep anything in session variables.
My rule of thumb is that the more scalable (in terms of users/hits) that the app needs to be, the less you can get away with using session state. There is, however, a trade-off. For web applications where the user is repeatedly accessing the same data and typically has a fairly long session per use of the site, some caching (if necessary in session objects) can actually help scalability by reducing the load on the DB server. The idea here is that it is much cheaper and less complex to farm the presentation layer than the back-end DB. Of course, with all things, this advice should be taken in moderation and doesn't apply in all situations, but for a fairly simple in-house CRUD app, it should serve you well.
A very similar question was asked regarding PHP sessions earlier. Basically, Sessions are a great place to store user-specific data that you need to access across several page loads. Sessions are NOT a great place to store database connection references; you'd be better to use some sort of connection pooling software or open/close your connection on each page load. As far as caching data in the session, this depends on how session data is being stored, how much security you need, and whether or not the data is specific to the user. A better bet would be to use something else for caching data.
storing navigation cues in sessions is tricky. The same user can have multiple windows open and then changes get propagated in a confusing manner. DB connections should definitely not be stored. ASP.NET maintains the connection pool for you, no need to resort to your own sorcery. If you need to cache stuff for short periods and the data set size is relatively small, look into ViewState as a possible option (at the cost of loading more bulk onto the page size)
A: Data that is only relative to one user. IE: a username, a user ID. At most an object representing a user. Sometimes URL-relative data (like where to take somebody) or an error message stack are useful to push into the session.
If you want to share stuff potentially between different users, use the Application store or the Cache. They're far superior.
Stephen,
Do you work for a company that starts with "I", that has a website that starts with "BC"? That sounds exactly like what I did when I first started developing in .net (and was young and stupid) -- I crammed everything I could think of in session and application. Needless to say, that was double-plus ungood.
In general, eschew session as much as possible. Certainly, non-serializable objects shouldn't be stored there (database connections and such), but even big, serializable objects shouldn't be either. You just don't want the overhead.
I would always keep very little information in session. Sessions use server memory resources which is expensive. Saving too many values in session increases the load on server and eventualy the performance of the site will go down. When you use load balance servers, usage of session can run into problems. So what I do is use minimal or no sessions, use cookies if the information is not very critical, use hidden fields more and database sessions.
I am wanting to store the "state" of some actions the user is performing in a series of different ASP.Net webforms. What are my choices for persisting state, and what are the pros/cons of each solution?
I have been using Session objects, and using some helper methods to strongly type the objects:
public static Account GetCurrentAccount(HttpSessionState session)
{
return (Account)session[ACCOUNT];
}
public static void SetCurrentAccount(Account obj, HttpSessionState session)
{
session[ACCOUNT] = obj;
}
I have been told by numerous sources that "Session is evil", so that is really the root cause of this question. I want to know what you think "best practice", and why.
There is nothing inherently evil with session state.
There are a couple of things to keep in mind that might bite you though:
If the user presses the browser back button you go back to the previous page but your session state is not reverted. So your CurrentAccount might not be what it originally was on the page.
ASP.NET processes can get recycled by IIS. When that happens you next request will start a new process. If you are using in process session state, the default, it will be gone :-(
Session can also timeout with the same result if the user isn't active for some time. This defaults to 20 minutes so a nice lunch will do it.
Using out of process session state requires all objects stored in session state to be serializable.
If the user opens a second browser window he will expect to have a second and distinct application but the session state is most likely going to be shared between to two. So changing the CurrentAccount in one browser window will do the same in the other.
Your two choices for temporarily storing form data are, first, to store each form's information in session state variable(s) and, second, to pass the form information along using URL parameters. Using Cookies as a potential third option is simply not workable for the simple reason that many of your visitors are likely to have cookies turned off (this doesn't affect session cookies, however). Also, I am assuming by the nature of your question that you do not want to store this information in a database table until it is fully committed.
Using Session variable(s) is the classic solution to this problem but it does suffer from a few drawbacks. Among these are (1) large amounts of data can use up server RAM if you are using inproc session management, (2) sharing session variables across multiple servers in a server farm requires additional considerations, and (3) a professionally-designed app must guard against session expiration (don't just cast a session variable and use it - if the session has expired the cast will throw an error). However, for the vast majority of applications, session variables are unquestionably the way to go.
The alternative is to pass each form's information along in the URL. The primary problem with this approach is that you'll have to be extremely careful about "passing along" information. For example, if you are collecting information in four pages, you would need to collect information in the first, pass it in the URL to the second page where you must store it in that page's viewstate. Then, when calling the third page, you'll collect form data from the second page plus the viewstate variables and encode both in the URL, etc. If you have five or more pages or if the visitor will be jumping around the site, you'll have a real mess on your hands. Keep in mind also that all information will need to A) be serialized to a URL-safe string and B) encoded in such a manner as to prevent simple URL-based hacks (e.g. if you put the price in clear-text and pass it along, someone could change the price). Note that you can reduce some of these problems by creating a kind of "session manager" and have it manage the URL strings for you but you would still have to be extremely sensitive to the possibility that any given link could blow away someone's entire session if it isn't managed properly.
In the end, I use URL variables only for passing along very limited data from one page to the next (e.g. an item's ID as encoded in a link to that item).
Let us assume, then, that you would indeed manage a user's data using the built-in Sessions capability. Why would someone tell you that "Session is evil"? Well, in addition to the memory load, server-farm, and expiration considerations presented above, the primary critique of Session variables that they are, effectively, untyped variables.
Fortunately, prudent use of Session variables can avoid memory problems (big items should be kept in the database anyhow) and if you are running a site large enough to need a server farm, there are plenty of mechanisms available for sharing state built in to ASP.NET (hint: you will not use inproc storage).
To avoid essentially all of the rest of Session's drawbacks, I recommend that implement an object to hold your session data as well as some simple Session object management capabilities. Then build these into a descendent of the Page class and use this descendent Page class for all of your pages. It is then a simple matter to access your Session data via the page class as a set of strongly-typed values. Note that your Object's fields will give you a way to access each of your "session variables" in a strongly typed manner (e.g. one field per variable).
Let me know if this is a straightforward task for you or if you'd like some sample code!
As far as I know, Session is the intended way of storing this information. Please keep in mind that session state generally is stored in the process by default. If you have multiple web servers, or if there is an IIS reboot, you lose session state. This can be fixed by using a ASP.NET State Service, or even an SQL database to store sessions. This ensures people get their session back, even if they are rerouted to a different web server, or in case of a recycle of the worker process.
One of the reasons for its sinister reputation is that hurried developers overuse it with string literals in UI code (rather than a helper class like yours) as the item keys, and end up with a big bag of untestable promiscuous state. Some sort of wrapper is an entry-level requirement for non-evil session use.
As for "Session being evil" ... if you were developing in classic ASP I would have to agree, but ASP.NET/IIS does a much better job.
The real question is what is the best way to maintain state. In our case, when it comes to the current logged in user, we store that object in Session, as we are constantly referring to it for their name, email address, authorization and so forth.
Other little tidbits of information that doesn't need any long-term persistence we use a combination of cookies and viewstate.
When you want to store information that can be accessed globally in your web application, a way of doing this is the ThreadStatic attribute. This turns a static member of a Class into a member that is shared by the current thread, but not other threads. The advantage of ThreadStatic is that you don't have to have a web context available. For instance, if you have a back end that does not reference System.Web, but want to share information there as well, you can set the user's id at the beginning of every request in the ThreadStatic property, and reference it in your dependency without the need of having access to the Session object.
Because it is static but only to a single thread, we ensure that other simultaneous visitors don't get our session. This works, as long as you ensure that the property is reset for every request. This makes it an ideal companion to cookies.
I think using Session object is OK in this case, but you should remember Session can expire if there is no browser activity for long time (HttpSessionState.Timeout property determines in how many minutes session-state provider terminates the session), so it's better to check for value existence before return:
public static Account GetCurrentAccount(HttpSessionState session)
{
if (Session[ACCOUNT]!=null)
return (Account)Session[ACCOUNT];
else
throw new Exception("Can't get current account. Session expired.");
}
http://www.tigraine.at/2008/07/17/session-handling-in-aspnet/
hope this helps.
Short term information, that only needs to live until the next request, can also be stored in the ViewState. This means that objects are serialized and stored in the page sent to the browser, which is then posted back to the server on a click event or similar. Then the ViewState is decoded and turned into objects again, ready to be retrieved.
Sessions are not evil, they serve an important function in ASP.NET application, serving data that must be shared between multiple pages during a user's "session". There are some suggestions, I would say to use SQL Session management when ever possible, and make certain that the objects you are using in your session collection are "serializable". The best practices would be to use the session object when you absolutely need to share state information across pages, and don't use it when you don't need to. The information is not going to be available client side, A session key is kept either in a cookie, or through the query string, or using other methods depending on how it is configured, and then the session objects are available in the database table (unless you use InProc, in which case your sessions will have the chance of being blown away during a reload of the site, or will be rendered almost useless in most clustered environments).
I think the "evil" comes from over-using the session. If you just stick anything and everything in it (like using global variables for everything) you will end up having poor performance and just a mess.
Anything you put in the session object stays there for the duration of the session unless it is cleaned up. Poor management of memory stored using inproc and stateserver will force you to scale out earlier than necessary. Store only an ID for the session/user in the session and load what is needed into the cache object on demand using a helper class. That way you can fine tune it's lifetime according to how often that data us used. The next version of asp.net may have a distributed cache(rumor).
Session as evil: Not in ASP.NET, properly configured. Yes, it's ideal to be as stateless as possible, but the reality is that you can't get there from here. You can, however, make Session behave in ways that lessen its impact -- Notably StateServer or database sessions.