I'd like to get some information regarding using MySQL alongside ASP.NET (particularly MVC 3). From what I've found and experienced, it doesn't quite seem as customizable in terms of the Membership and User classes which come with Asp.Net, especially when it comes to validation or registration.
For example, after configuring my web.config file to use MySQL, I found myself realizing that, although a fair amount of tables were auto-generated for me to use, I wasn't able to change the names of them. Because of this, it seemed as though if I were to change a column name, or add a column to the table, it wouldn't quite work with the system, since everything has been pre-built.
Yet, with ADO.Net/Entity Framework, it appears that I might actually be able to have more freedom in how I go about creating my websites using MsSQL. Is this true? Is MySQL just not meant for ASP.Net, despite the the fact that you can install and use it at your leisure. Or is it that it just requires more work to get everything working, and you kind of have to reinvent the wheel by creating your own database classes and validation tools?
I'm not trying to bash either MySql or MsSql, I'm simply looking for a good analysis on the topic, as Google hasn't helped me much in this area.
This is more an issue with the default providers, and one of the many reasons why the 1st thing I did when I learnt about them was to try and make my own. (To be clear, creating your own one from scratch does require a fair amount of work, there are a few good tutorials out there that can give you a quick start)
[It'd make all our lives easier if the .Net framework used Interfaces for the providers rather than the base class... ]
To be clear, the big thing with the auto generated providers is the sprocs they use require the specified names, if you want to change the table names then you'll have to also update all the Sprocs as well. (This is true for any custom provider you may chose to build/use)
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This is more of an advise / best practice question that I'm hoping someone has come across before and can give me a steer.
I need to build a web application (the client would like webforms because that's what their developers know for when i hand it over)
Essentially when the client logs in, they will pick a language then I need to replace the text for menus, input boxes etc. The client wants to add their translations and update them at any time.
Ideas I have looked at are:
Holding the translations in resource files, building an editor in to the web application and then adding attributes on the fly to my viewmodels.
Holding the translations in sql server so i have the name, language and translation as a lookup e.g. Home | French | Maison. Then on pre-render I'll scrape the screen for any controls needing translation in the menu, labels, text areas.
Does anyone know of any good examples or had the experience of doing this themselves.
I've a similar situation, and chose to store data in SQL.
Translation mistakes happen often, and you don't want to recompile or disassemble every time.
It is possible to avoid the need to republish, but I've found it just more intuitive and straightforward to maintain SQL.
Bottom line, it depends on the amount of data you have. If it's more than just a couple of keywords, it sounds like a job for SQL to me.
Edit:
In a similar question, users recommend using resources, claiming it is the standard method.
However, if your users are going to make changes to values on regular basis (not because of mistake correction, but because data actually changes), then SQL seems best fit for the job.
I am looking to build a multilingual website using MS expressions web. The website will consist of a blog and possibly a art display portions. I would like to do all translations manually but I don't want to have more then one CSS stack. What would be the best way to populate the website text. Because this is just a learning experience I will host the website myself.
What would be the best method to implement such a website: XML or SQL.
In my professional opinion I would use SQL simply because databases are always easier to edit and handle (in my opinion...) than XML, I like KatieK's idea of simply querying a different database based on which language it is in. However, if this is a learning experience I would use whichever language you know least of b/c it will teach you more.
Also (as a side-note), if this is run locally, you have to consider the ramifications of having MYSQL database calls, it means you have to deal with server side scripting (I'm assuming you will get the XML using js, although I could be wrong), its CPU usage (although I wouldn't worry too much abut that...), and preventing mysql injection.
Finally (this is my last side-note, I swear), I know you said that you wanted to do all the translations yourself, but I thought it couldn't hurt to mention that you don't have to.
Anyway, that's my two cents.
If it were me, I'd do it using SQL. I'd have two database tables, each with the different language content, and change the SQL call server-side based on query strings.
But the best implementation method for you depends entirely on your skills and abilities. Do you have experience designing databases and writing SQL queries? Do you have a database set up right now?
I'm planning to create a site for learning technologies, such as codeproject or codeplex. Can you please suggest to me the different ways to manage huge articles?
Look at a content management system, such as SiteFinity: http://www.sitefinity.com/. There are others, some free. You can find some on codeplex.com.
HTH.
Check out DotNetNuke CMS too >> http://www.dotnetnuke.com/
And here's a very hot list available of ASP.NET CMS systems:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_content_management_systems#Microsoft_ASP.NET_2
Different ways to manage articles while building the entire system yourself. Hmm, ok, let me give it a try... here's the short version.
There are several ways you can "store" your articles (content, data, whatever), and the best way to do so is to use a Database. (SQL Server, MySQL, SQLCE, SQLite, Oracle, the list goes on).
If you're not sold on the idea of a database, you can use any other type of persistent storage that you like. IE: XML, or even flat "TXT" files.
Since you're using ASP.NET you now need to either write your code behind, or some other complied code to access your stored data. You pull it out of the storage and display it on the page/view.
Last but not least, I'd like to give you a suggestion (even though it's not part of your original question). As the other answerers have stated, you should look at a pre-built CMS. If nothing else, to see how it's done (not necessarily to use it as is). My philosophy is quite simple, if you want to be productive in your development, don't bother reinventing the wheel just for the sake of it. If someone else has already build and given away exactly what you need, you should at very least give it a look and use what you can. It will save you piles of time and heartache.
Your question is not vague enough to be closed, but is vague enough that answering all of the nuances could take several thousand lines.
I have a question about storing site configuration data.
We have a platform for web applications. The idea is that different clients can have their data hosted and displayed on their own site which sits on top of this platform. Each site has a configuration which determines which panels relevant to the client appear on which pages.
The system was originally designed to keep all the configuration data for each site in a database. When the site is loaded all the configuration data is loaded into a SiteConfiguration object, and the clients panels are generated based on the content of this object. This works, but I find it very difficult to work with to apply change requests or add new sites because there is so much data to sift through and it's difficult maintain a mental model of the site and its configuration.
Recently I've been tasked with developing a subset of some of the sites to be generated as PDF documents for printing. I decided to take a different approach to how I would define the configuration in that instead of storing configuration data in the database, I wrote XML files to contain the data. I find it much easier to work with because instead of reading meaningless rows of data which are related to other meaningless rows of data, I have meaningful documents with semantic, readable information with the relationships defined by visually understandable element nesting.
So now with these 2 approaches to storing site configuration data, I'd like to get the opinions of people more experienced in dealing with this issue on dealing with these two approaches. What is the best way of storing site configuration data? Is there a better way than the two ways I outlined here?
note: StackOverflow is telling me the question appears to be subjective and is likely to be closed. I'm not trying to be subjective. I'd like to know how best to approach this issue next time and if people with industry experience on this could provide some input.
if the information is needed for per client specific configuration it is probably best done in a database with an admin tool written for it so that non technical people can also manage it. Also it's easier that way when you need versioning/history on it. XML isn't always the best on that part. Also XML is harder to maintain in the end (for non technical people).
Do you read out the XML every time from disk (performance hit) or do you keep it cached in memory? Either solution you choose, caching makes a big difference in the end for performance.
Grz, Kris.
You're using ASP.NET so what's wrong with web.config for your basic settings (if it's per project deploy), then as you've said, custom XML or database configuration settings for anything more complicated (or if you have multiple users/clients with the same project deploy)?
I'd only use custom XML documents for something like a "site layout document" where things won't change that often and you're going to have lots of semi-meaningless data (e.g. 23553123). And layout should be handled by css as much as possible anyway.
For our team XML is a good choice (app.config or web.config or custom configuration file, it depends), but sometimes it is better to design configuration API to make configurations in code. For example modern IoC containers has in-code configuration APIs with fluent interfaces. This approach can give benefits if you need to configure many similar to each other entities or want to achive good human readability. But this doesn't works if non-programmers need to make configurations.
I've been looking into ASP.NET Dynamic Data and how it does scaffolding and routing. I've only scratched the surface, but it's looking like I'd have to create a template for each table that I didn't want to display all columns the same way.
My first impression after looking at dynamic data is that it would seem like less time on the programmer to have to edit one-time generated user controls rather than build a template for each table that doesn't have a uniform display behavior.
What proven solutions are people currently using that help ease the laborious tasks of creating ASP.NET CRUD type user controls?
Thanks
In ASP.NET webforms we use CodeSmith. From a single entity we generate admin pages, codebehinds, service layers, data layers and db stored procedures. All in a matter of seconds. I'd recommend you check it our for quickly building the crud in your apps.
We're actually working on our own code generation tool. It has already proven to work perfectly on the lower layers and now we're on the way to extend it for the presentation layer, that is for generating user controls.
I've not looked into dynamic data (although I'd like to when I have some time) but my biggest fear is always to lose flexibility. The problem is that these front-ends are then maybe generated dynamically each time based on some template and editing, especially bringing in special customer wishes becomes quite difficult. For small standard apps it may work perfectly though.
What we're therefore doing is to "generate" these usercontrols based on a set of standard custom server controls we've developed, but we'll generate just the first time from some static information about the entities in our application. Then you can continue customizing.
Such systems should help the developer, improving his development speed, doing the initial awkward work but then they should give him the flexibility to modify till the maximum. They should not add additional complexity...
I used .netTiers CodeSmith templates long time ago (years) and it was proven so strong, so, it must be more than great now.
I know a (big) company who have built a customization engine (allowing GUI for internal company options) around those templates to use them in most of their applications and were so successful.
I've used http://www.ironspeed.com/ in the past which has been great. Saved us MONTHS of time on our last project which has a big DB, so the cost is worth it. But it looks a bit ugly and can be tricky to update the DB schema once you've generated.
Obviously not much widespread use out there other than whats provided in Visual Studio.
Have a look at Blinq.