as i understand, when i load a asp.net .aspx page on the (iis)server, it's processed via the w3p.exe process.
But when iis gets multiple requests, are they all processed by the same w3p process?
And does this process automaticly use all my processors and cores?
And after that: when i start i new thread in my page, this thread still works when the pages is already served to the client.
Where does this thread live? also in the w3p.exe process?
And what if i assign another apppool to my site, what does that do?
Michel
IIS creates a separate worker process (w3wp.exe on Windows Server or aspnet_wp.exe on Windows XP) for each App Pool. If you create multiple App Pools it will create multiple worker processes. When a page gets multiple requests, yes, they are processed by multiple threads in the same worker process. Each thread can run on a separate processor or core, so yes. When you start a new thread manually it's no different - yes, it's in the same worker process.
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I'm troubleshooting restarts in an ASP.NET application. The application is restarting about 20 times a day. We strongly suspect one part of the application because the restarts began when this particular feature when into production. I've added some logging to those pages using the log4net library, but I'm having trouble interpreting the logs.
When an ASP.NET application is running in an Application Pool, does only a single instance of that application run, or will multiple instances of that application run? I know several worker process threads will be spawned. What is the relationship of the worker process threads to the application(s) running in the App Pool?
I am thinking that I may not be interpreting the results correctly if there are multiple applications logging to the same log. If one is restarted but the other is not, the logs aren't really telling me much about what was happening when the restart occurred.
UPDATE 1
Looking at this page, I find the following information:
An application pool defines a group of one or more worker processes, configured with common settings that serve requests to one or more applications that are assigned to that application pool. Because application pools allow a set of Web applications to share one or more similarly configured worker processes, they provide a convenient way to isolate a set of Web applications from other Web applications on the server computer. Process boundaries separate each worker process; therefore, application problems in one application pool do not affect Web sites or applications in other application pools.
But I am still confused. I know from experience that I can assign two entirely different applications to use the same App Pool. Does that mean that exactly two worker processes will be spawned? Or can there be multiple worker processes spawned for the first app, and multiple worker processes spawned for the second app? If a problem happens in one worker process, can it take down every application running in that App Pool?
UPDATE 2
From this page about using WinDbg, I found this information (emphasis mine):
In IIS 5.x, there is only one Aspnet_wp.exe worker process and one debugger thread. Consequently, only one debugger can be attached to the Aspnet_wp.exe process at a time. This can pose a problem if you're dealing with multiple Web applications on the same machine. In IIS 6.0, you can coerce an AppDomain to run in a separate application pool. (For more information, see "IIS 5.x Process Model" and "IIS 6.0 Process Model" in Chapter 1.) Separate application pools provide multiple W3wp.exe processes. Multiple debugger threads are created in these processes (one in each), allowing you to debug more efficiently.
This sounds to me like each App Pool gets one w3wp.exe process. Am I interpreting that right? And if so, does that still apply in IIS 7.5?
Yes, each application pool is typically a single process1, but can contain multiple threads. You can assign multiple sites to an application pool, and those sites will all run under the same process, however they will run under different "app domains", which are security contexts that separate the code of one site from another, even if they're running on the same app pool.
Two users hitting the site at the same time can run on different threads, meaning they can run concurrently. That means any logging can have values interspersed. You might want to add a session value to your logging so you can sort based on session.
App pool restarts (recycling) are normal, 20 restarts in a day does not seem unusual. They can happen multiple times per day, and IIS controls when app pools are restarted. It does this whenever it feels it needs to clean up the pool.2 Your applications should be written in such a way as to recover gracefully from this (ie, do not keep anything in session that cannot be easily recreated if the app pool restarts).
The app pool can also restart when an unhandled exception occurs in your app. In that case, you want to address the cause of this. Such exceptions are usually logged in the event log.
1 – While you can configure an application pool to have multiple worker processes (this is known as a Web Garden), this is not a typical (nor generally recommended) configuration in my experience.
2 – Note that using IIS Manager you can configure an application to log recycle events to the Windows Event Log. You can also use IIS Manager to set the threshold for when several of the different types of recycle events occur.
Can anyone explain the differences, in IIS, between application pools, worker processes and app domains? Also, how do they work together? I've read a couple of articles but it's still a little confusing.
Does each website created in IIS becomes an application?
Is each application associated with one worker process?
Where do app domains come into the picture?
I try to say them with other words.
In a server you can have many asp.net sites that runs together. Each one site is an app domain.
You must assign to each of them one application pool. Many application domains (sites) can have the same application pool, and because they have the same application pool they run under the same processes, and under the same account - and they have the same settings of the pool. If this pool restarts, then all sites under that pools restarts.
Now each pool can have one or more worker process. Each worker process is a different program that's run your site, have their alone static variables, they different start stop calls etc. Different worker process are not communicate together, and the only way to exchange data is from common files or a common database. If you have more than one worker process and one of them make long time calculations, then the other can take care to handle the internet calls and show content.
When you assign many worker process to a single pool then you make the called web garden and your site is like to be run from more than one computer if a computer is one processing machine.
Each worker process can have many threads.
How the more worker process affect you:
When you have one worker process everything is more simple, among your application all static variables are the same, and you use the lock to synchronize them.
When you assign more than one worker process then you still continue to use the lock for static variables, static variables are not different among the many runs of your site, and if you have some common resource (e.g. the creation of a thumbnail on the disk) then you need to synchronize your worker process with Mutex.
One more note. Its sounds that when you make more worker process then you may have more smooth asynchronous page loads. There is a small issue with the session handler of asp.net that is lock the entire process for a page load - that is good and not good depend if you know it and handle it - or change it.
So let talk about one site only with many worker process. Here you face the issue that you need to synchronize your common resource change with Mutex. But the pages/handlers that use session they are not asynchronous because the session locks them. This is good for start because you avoid to make this synchronization of many points your self.
Some questions on this topic:
Web app blocked while processing another web app on sharing same session
jQuery Ajax calls to web service seem to be synchronous
ASP.NET Server does not process pages asynchronously
Replacing ASP.Net's session entirely
Now this session lock is not affect different sites.
Among different sites the more worked process can help to not the one site block the other with long running process.
Also among different sites the more pools also can help, because each pool have at least one worked process, but remember and see by your self using the process explorer, each working process takes more memory of your computer, and one big server with 16G memory and one SQL server can not have too many different worked process - for example on a server with 100 shared sites, you can not have 100 different pools.
One IIS server may have multiple application pools.
One web application binds to one application pool.
One application pool may have more than one worker process (when Web Garden is enable).
One worker process can have multiple app domains. One app domain lives only in one worker process.
One app domain may have multiple threads. One thread can be shared by different app domains in different time.
The meaning to ASP.NET developers: to make your web site scalable, don't use in-proc session and don't use static class variable lock for synchronization.
Yes, though not every application is a website. You can have an application that is nested under a website.
Yes, every application has to have one worker process (application pool), though one application pool can server several applications. A single web application can be distributed (web garden/farm) meaning that it will run in multiple processes.
Each process will run in its own app domain (every application pool is a separate app domain).
From MSDN.
Create a Web Application:
An application is a grouping of content at the root level of a Web site or a grouping of content in a separate folder under the Web site's root directory.
Application Pools:
An application pool defines a group of one or more worker processes, configured with common settings that serve requests to one or more applications that are assigned to that application pool. Because application pools allow a set of Web applications to share one or more similarly configured worker processes, they provide a convenient way to isolate a set of Web applications from other Web applications on the server computer. Process boundaries separate each worker process; therefore, application problems in one application pool do not affect Web sites or applications in other application pools. Application pools significantly increase both the reliability and manageability of your Web infrastructure.
From the source link:-http://weblogs.asp.net/owscott/archive/2007/09/02/application-vs-appdomain.aspx
An application is an IIS term, but it's one that ASP.NET utilizes.
Essentially it creates a sandbox, or a set of boundaries to separate
different sites, or parts of sites, from the others.
An AppDomain is a .NET term. (In IIS7, AppDomains play a larger role
within IIS, but for the most part it's an ASP.NET term)
The worker process is used to process the request of the web application.
for IIS7
Does a webapplication run faster when Maximum Worker Processes is more than one?
By increasing the Maximum Worker Processes over 1 you're creating a Web Garden. So the short answer is: likely no... unless:
To quote Chris Adams an ex IIS PM's article I have flowers... should I get a Web Garden?:
Web gardens was designed for one single reason – Offering applications that are not CPU-bound but execute long running requests the ability to scale and not use up all threads available in the worker process.
The examples might be things like -
Applications that make long running database requests (e.g. high computational database transaction)
Applications that have threads occupied by long-running synchronous and network intensive transactions
The question that you must ask yourself -
What is the current CPU usage of the server?
What is the application’s threads executing and what type of requests are they?
Based on the criteria above, you should understand better when to use Web Gardens. Web Gardens, in the metabase, equals the MaxProcesses metabase property if you are not using the User Interface to configure this feature.
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I hope that I get some mileage out of having this blog and more importantly I hope it helps you understand this better…
You may want to look at "What is Web Garden?" from Deploying ASP.NET Websites on IIS 7.0 [codeproject.com] which says:
By default each Application Pool runs with a Single Worker Process (W3Wp.exe). We can assign multiple Worker Processes With a Single Application Pool. An Application Pool with multiple Worker process is called "Web Gardens". Many worker processes with the same Application Pool can sometimes provide better throughput performance and application response time. And each worker process should have their own Thread and Own Memory space.
WebGarden is faster than single worker process in case if application contains locks that prevent its parallelization. For example, GDI+ based image processing.
See this and this questions for more info.
The thread will be started on each Application_Start event.
It will be a monitoring thread which is supposed to run constantly.
So even if the app shuts down, once it is restarted the thread will start too ensuring it runs all the time.
However I need to be sure that this thread will not be stopped / shut down while the application is running.
So in a few words, does anybody know if asp.net could shut down such a thread without actualy stopping / recycling the application.
As a matter of design, you shouldn't depend on asp.net to run threads like this. Little things like app recycling can cause you a lot of trouble.
Instead, create a windows service to execute the thread. This way you don't have to worry about it.
Update
I just wanted to add a little more information.
IIS has the ability to execute your app across multiple threads and processes. A standard site installation usually only has a single process (aka: web garden) assigned which spins up around 20 threads to handle request processing.
However, any IIS administrator can easily add more processes to the mix. They usually do this when a site can hose a single process either because request processing takes too long, or the number of handler threads isn't enough, or as a temporary measure if the app has enough problems that a single thread will hose the entire process fairly often.
If you have a thread being spun on app start, then it will create one for each worker process the site has. This may be unexpected behavior to you or your successors.
Also, monitoring apps are almost always completely separate to the application they are monitoring. One of the primary reasons is that in the event the monitored process dies, hangs, or otherwise becomes unresponsive then the monitoring app itself still needs to carry on and log this information. Otherwise the monitored process could very well hose the monitoring app itself.
So, do yourself a favor and move this to its own process. The best way to do this on an IIS server is to create a windows service and give it the appropriate execution rights to do what you need.
I'm investigating some performance improvements that can be made to our web server and ASP.NET application. This page contains a few things that we can do.
We currently have two worker processes running as a garden. Do each of these worker processes have their own ASP.NET threadpool? Or do both of these worker processes share a single threadpool and the max number of worker threads is shared across these processes?
This post seems to suggest that the two processes share a common ASP.NET threadpool.
All w3wp.exe threads do is take
requests from HTTP.SYS queue, process
it, and hand the request to
ASPNET_ISAPI.DLL, who then deposits
those requests into the ASP.Net
request queue, and the ASP.Net threads
service that queue.
But this post suggests that each worker process contains their own ASP.NET threadpool.
Each process (w3wp.exe) has its own
CLR thread pool which has the
configured maxworkerthreads value (20
default).
Which is correct?
Each worker process will have its own thread pool and separate ASP.NET request queue.
Processes can't really share threads, threads run in the context of a single process.