I am getting started with ASP.NET web development and was wondering what the differences are when multi-threading a standard winforms application versus a web-based application written in asp.net that will run in IIS. Is there any difference and if so, what are the limitations (and conversely any positives) of threading a web application,
Thank you in advance
In the Windows GUI world, you always have the "UI thread" which you can use to communicate with the user. For example, you can start a BackgroundWorker in the UI thread, which will raise an event in the UI thread after completing its work: In a Windows UI application, you can be pretty sure that the UI thread is still there, unless the user has closed the application.
In the web world, you have no equivalent main thread. There are just web requests: Sometimes there are none and sometimes there are many at the same time; it is even possible that one single request will be handled by multiple threads without you knowing it. If you start a background thread with a lengthy operation, you need to either
delay finishing the web request until the background thread has completed -- which means a slow response time for the user and somehow defeats the purpose of a background thread or
regularly (during future requests) check the state of the thread and inform the user when it has finished.
Of course, that's only a problem if you want some user interaction after the thread has finished. If you don't, just start it and it will eventually finish (unless someone restarts IIS).
Threading isn't really an issue in the web world. There isn't any state and each request is a new instance of the web page. There are ways to track state between requests such as cookies, sessionstate, viewstate.
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Speaking of server resources (in general) and background processes. Would it be better to use a separate executable and a windows scheduled task or use the timer class and make use of the same resources as you application.
There are a few pros and cons to both methods, but what I'm wondering is this: Would making use of shared resources (thread pools and the like) be better than separate resources? Sure the process would be taking resources from the app, but isn't it technically already doing that either way?
you have given too little context to really understand the whole. how does the timer trigger the activity at certain time if the application is closed or there is nobody connected (logged on)? This kind of stays the same for both ASP.NET and Windows client because IIS takes the application down when nobody is connected for a while.
in my opinion a Windows' scheduled task is way better because you decouple from IIS application pool / application lifecycle and you also separate better and are sure that at that time the call will be executed and the activity started.
I want to kick off a background worker thread from a client AJAX request. So the request returns immediately and the background thread handles the processing. Is Session state available to this background thread?
Yes - if your background thread is running in the same AppDomain as an ASP.NET site. HttpContext.Current.Session will get you access to it. Ignoring of course an entire topic of how to best handle multi-threading in web apps, how to best handle injecting dependencies into your backend code (whether a controller or some other technology du jour) for testability, this will get you there quickest and dirtiest.
Now that I am writing this answer, session is not available in a thread other that the one that is processing the current requrest.
If there is not any request, Current property of HttpContext is null.
But if in that background thread, you are using session after a request received, it is available while the request is alive and has been not completed.
There may be a better solution for you requirement.
Any way if you must use background thread, accessing the session is not the only problem that you are encountering. You should consider fault situations that may happen for you thread and be careful that your application does not go to inappropriate state. For example IIS may recycle AppDomain ( although this one almost can be handled by HostingEnvironment.RegisterObject )
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This is a close duplicate of Dealing with a longer running process in WCF. Please considering posting your answer to that one instead of this.
Original Question
I'm implementing the business layer of an application that must run some background processes at scheduled times. The business layer is made up of several WCF services all running under the same web application.
The idea is defining a set of 'tasks' that must be run at different times (eg. every 5 minutes, everyday at 23:00, etc). That wouldn't be hard to implement as a windows service, but the problem is, the tasks need access to data caches that are living in the services, so this 'scheduler' must run under the IIS context in order to access that data.
What I'm doing currently is using a custom ServiceHostFactory in one of the WCF services which spawns a child thread and returns. The child thread sleeps and wakes up every X minutes to see if there are scheduled tasks and executes them.
But I'm worried about IIS randomly killing my thread when it recycles the application pool or after some inactive time (eg. no activity on any of the WCF services, which listen for requests from the presentation layer). The thread must run uninterrupted regardless of activity on the services. Is this really possible?
I have found an article by someone doing the same thing, but his solution seems to be pinging the server from the child thread itself regularly. Hopefully there is a better solution.
I have at some point implemented a Windows Service that would load a web page on a regular basis. The purpose of that was was that the site was hosting a Workflow Foundation runtime, and we wanted to ensure that the web application was brought back up after IIS recycling the application pool. Perhaps the same approach can be used in this case; have a service (or Scheduled Task in Windows; even simpler) run every x minutes and load a page that will check for tasks.
Is it a possibility to run either a Windows Service or place applications in the Windows Scheduler to execute methods in the WCF at certain times? Maybe use a BackgroundWorker inside the WCF. Another option would be for WCF to spawn other applications to do the business logic, passing the appropriate data, or pointers to the data in memory(unsafe).
Recently, the book on threading for Winforms application (Concurrent programming on Windows by Joe Duffy) was released. This book, focused on winforms, is 1000 pages.
What gotchas are there in ASP.NET threading? I'm sure there are plenty of gotchas to be aware of when implementing threading in ASP.NET. What should I be aware of?
Thanks
Since each http request received by IIS is processed separately, on it's own thread anyway, the only issues you should have is if you kick off some long running process from within the scope of a single http request. In that case, I would put such code into a separate referenced dependant assembly, coded like a middle-tier component, with no dependance or coupling to the ASP.Net model at all, and handle whatever concurrency issues arose within that assembly separately, without worrying about the ASP.Net model at all...
Jeff Richter over at Wintellect has a library called PowerThreading. It is very useful if you are developing applications on .NET. => Power Threading Library
Check for his presentations online at various events.
Usually you are encouraged to use the thread pool in .Net because it of the many benefits of having things managed on your behalf.....but NOT in ASP.net.
Since ASP.net is already multi-threaded, it uses the thread pool to serve requests that are mapped to the ASP.net ISAPI filter, and since the thread pool is fixed in size, by using it you are basically taking threads away that are set aside to do the job of handling request.
In small, low-traffic websites, this is not an issue, but in larger, high-traffic websites you end up competing for and consuming threads that the ASP.net process relies on.
If you want to use threading, it is fine to do something like....
Thread thread = new Thread(threadStarter);
thread.IsBackground = true;
thread.Start();
but with a warning: be sure that the IsBackground is set to true because if it isn't the thread exists in the foreground and will likely prevent the IIS worker process from recycling or restarting.
First, are you talking about asynchronous ASP.NET? Or using the ThreadPool/spinning up your own threads?
If you aren't talking about asynchronous ASP.NET, the main question to answer is: what work would you be doing in the other threads and would the work be specific to a request/response cycle, or is it more about processing global tasks in the background?
EDIT
If you need to handle concurrent operations (a better term than multi-threaded IMO) for a given request/response cycle, then use the asynchronous features of ASP.NET. These provide an abstraction over IIS's support for concurrency, allowing the server to process other requests while the current request is waiting for work to complete.
For background processing of global tasks, I would not use ASP.NET at all. You should assume that IIS will recycle your AppPool at a random point in time. You also should not assume that IIS will run your AppPool on any sort of schedule. Any important background processing should be done outside of IIS, either as a scheduled task or a Windows Service. The approach I usually take is to have a Windows Service and a shared work-queue where the web-site can post work items. The queue can be a database table, a reliable message-based queue (MSMQ, etc), files on the file system, etc.
The immediate thing that comes to mind is, why would you "implement threading" in ASP.NET.
You do need to be conscious all the time that ASP.NET is multi-threaded since many requests can be processed simulatenously each in its own thread. So for example use of static fields needs to take threading into account.
However its rare that you would want to spin up a new thread in code yourself.
As far as the usual winforms issues with threading in the UI is concerned these issues are not present in ASP.NET. There is no window based message pump to worry about.
It is possible to create asynchronous pages in ASP.NET. These will perform all steps up to a certain point. These steps will include asynchronously fetching data, for instance. When all the asynchronous tasks have completed, the remainder of the page lifecycle will execute. In the meantime, a worker thread was not tied up waiting for database I/O to complete.
In this model, all extra threads are executing while the request, and the page instance, and all the controls, still exist. You have to be careful when starting your own threads, that, by the time the thread executes, it's possible that the request, page instance, and controls will have been Disposed.
Also, as usual, be certain that multiple threads will actually improve performance. Often, additional threads will make things worse.
The gotchas are pretty much the same as in any multithreaded application.
The classes involved in processing a request (Page, Controls, HttpContext.Current, ...) are specific to that request so don't need any special handling.
Similarly for any classes you instantiate as local variables or fields within these classes, and for access to Session.
But, as usual, you need to synchronize access to shared resources such as:
Static (C#) / Shared(VB.NET) references.
Singletons
External resources such as the file system
... etc...
I've seen threading bugs too often in ASP.NET apps, e.g. a singleton being used by multiple concurrent requests without synchronization, resulting in user A seeing user B's data.
Is it possible to use BackGroundWorker thread in ASP.NET 2.0 for the following scenario, so that the user at the browser's end does not have to wait for long time?
Scenario
The browser requests a page, say SendEmails.aspx
SendEmails.aspx page creates a BackgroundWorker thread, and supplies the thread with enough context to create and send emails.
The browser receives the response from the ComposeAndSendEmails.aspx, saying that emails are being sent.
Meanwhile, the background thread is engaged in a process of creating and sending emails which could take some considerable time to complete.
My main concern is about keeping the BackgroundWorker thread running, trying to send, say 50 emails while the ASP.NET workerprocess threadpool thread is long gone.
If you don't want to use the AJAX libraries, or the e-mail processing is REALLY long and would timeout a standard AJAX request, you can use an AsynchronousPostBack method that was the "old hack" in the .net 1.1 days.
Essentially what you do is have your submit button begin the e-mail processing in an asynchronous state, while the user is taken to an intermediate page. The benefit to this is that you can have your intermediate page refresh as much as needed, without worrying about hitting the standard timeouts.
When your background process is complete, it will put a little "done" flag in the database/application variable/whatever. When your intermediate page does a refresh of itself, it detects this flag and automatically redirects the user to the "done" page.
Again, AJAX makes all of this moot, but if for some reason you have a very intensive or timely process that has to be done over the web, this solution will work for you. I found a nice tutorial on it here and there are plenty more out there.
I had to use a process like this when we were working on a "web check-in" type application that was interfacing with a third party application and their import API was hideously slow.
EDIT: GAH! Curse you Guzlar and your god-like typing abilities 8^D.
You shouldn't do any threading from ASP.NET pages. Any thread that is long running is in danger of being killed when the worker process recycles. You can't predict when this will happen. Any long-running processes need to be handled by a windows service. You can kick off these processes by dropping a message in MSMQ, for example.
ThreadPool.QueueUserWorkItem(delegateThatSendsEmails)
or on System.Net.Mail.SmtpServer use the SendAsync method.
You want to put the email sending code on another thread, because then it will return the the user immediately, and will just process, no matter how long it takes.
It is possible. Once you start a new thread asynchronously from page, page request will proceed and send the page back to the user. The async thread will continue to run on the server but will no longer have access to the session.
If you have to show task progress, consider some Ajax techniques.
What you need to use for this scenario is Asynchronous Pages, a feature that was added in ASP.NET 2.0
Asynchronous pages offer a neat
solution to the problems caused by
I/O-bound requests. Page processing
begins on a thread-pool thread, but
that thread is returned to the thread
pool once an asynchronous I/O
operation begins in response to a
signal from ASP.NET. When the
operation completes, ASP.NET grabs
another thread from the thread pool
and finishes processing the request.
Scalability increases because
thread-pool threads are used more
efficiently. Threads that would
otherwise be stuck waiting for I/O to
complete can now be used to service
other requests. The direct
beneficiaries are requests that don't
perform lengthy I/O operations and can
therefore get in and out of the
pipeline quickly. Long waits to get
into the pipeline have a
disproportionately negative impact on
the performance of such requests.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/cc163725.aspx
If you want using multitheading in your ASP page, you might using simple threading model like this:
{
System.Threading.Thread _thread = new Thread(new ThreadStart(Activity_DoWork));
_thred.Start();
}
Activity_DoWork()
{
/*Do some things...
}
This method is correct working with ASP pages. The ASP page with BackgroundWorker will not start while BackgroundWorker will finish.
5 years later, but problems the same… If you want to perform fire-and-forget operations from your application and forget about all difficulties related to background job processing in ASP.NET applications, you can use http://hangfire.io.
It does not loose your jobs on recycling process, because it uses persistent storage to keep information about background jobs.
It automatically retries your background jobs that were aborted or failed due to transient exception (SMTP Server connectivity errors).
It allows you to easily debug background jobs through the integrated web interface.
It is very easy to install/configure/use HangFire.
There is also tutorial Sending Mail in Background with ASP.NET MVC for using HangFire with Postal.