We have questions about free .NET libraries and applications, but I'm curious about what ASP.NET control packages you've used that provide the best bang for your buck. Yes, paid stuff.
I'll get the ball rolling by saying I love the Telerik controls, but their price tag isn't great. The one reason I would say the value is the greatest here because of the licensing, which makes deployment so easy.
[Full Disclosure: I work at Telerik.]
I won't make any statements about which controls are the best- since clearly my opinions would be biased- but I will say that in the "3rd party" component market (in other words, not Microsoft and not open source) the pricing amongst the big players is all about the same. And in general, if you need the rich functionality offered by any of the 3rd party suites, the price is significantly lower than what you'd pay in your own dev time to rebuild the controls from scratch (or even to customize an open source control).
There are some significant differences in the way the licensing is handled, though, and as Josh originally highlighted, Telerik has the most open, "developer friendly" licensing approach. Purchased controls have no license keys to deal with.
Hope that helps.
I have both Telerik and DevExpress and I find myself, more and more, moving away from the Telerik stuff and using more of the DevExpress controls. I particularly like the DevExpress reporting package (the Telerik one was unusable) and the Grid / PivotGrid. However, Telerik does have better AJAX management helpers (although I no longer use them as I've learned enough about "raw" AJAX) and the Telerik Editor control is the best there is.
So...one vote here for DevExpress.
Telerik is by far the most robust for the cost; but you're right that the cost is a bit high.
We use the "Web.UI" suite from ComponentArt and we're very happy with it. You get the source code, redistribution, etc. Makes our web app stand out for sure.
http://componentart.com
The cost of Telerik's / DevExpress controls are CHEAP compared the cost having one or two people develop "something better". I have had developers work two weeks on just a grid with no Ajax, no client side anything and it looked like crap. Unless you have great skill with tools like jQuery and the team all possesses those skills, it is cheaper to go with a purchased library. Stuck on an issue, open a ticket. It's that simple.
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I'm in the process of building a web cms platform. And I've come to a point where I have to choose what actually goes in the pages (I've been building the "core" for now).
What do you think is the best option and could you give me your reasons for choosing that?
Currently I'm looking at jQuery UI, Telerik, and I'm also juggling with the idea of just building controls by myself, but I think that's too much of a hassle for little gain...
I'd love to hear your opinions, thanks!
I built my own CMS solely on the Telerik ASP.NET Ajax tools. It's really good, and if you're careful, performance will be comparable to jQuery-UI. If you're just doing it for "one client at a time", why not grab a copy of SiteFinity and include the licensing cost in the overall price?
jQuery has some really great tools too, but I prefer the simple nature of the Telerik tools.
I have come across the ASP.NET ready made controls like grid, repeater... etc.
For example while dealing with GRID i remember following facts,
ASP.NET V1.1 has DataGrid with "virtual row count" which is heavily used for custom paging which is need of big sites to perform well.
ASP.NET V2.0 added the GridView with all sort of cool features but also split the DataSource parts as different component. Also "virtual row count" is not supported and for pagination to be done DataSource control is need to be used.
After all these thing i thought that ASP.NET control are not made to be used as is for the development.
Please let me know whether i am right or wrong? Also if you think i am wrong PLEASE provide inputs/links which can help me come out of this thinking of mine.
The mjority of the out-of-the-box asp.net controls are very simple, easy to use and they do that they claim to do, reliably. Many people have had issues with the GridView control, particularly with regard to preformance and size of ViewState. Performance issues have only partly been resolved through the use of AJAX.
I agree with #Neil Moss about the Repeater control. It is very flexible and it outputs what you tell it to. For grids, take a look at the JQuery plugin JQGrid. It has none of the performance issues and a lot of the powerful features of many thrid party custom grids. http://www.trirand.net/demoaspnet.aspx
Also, the ListView control is a very good alternative to the GridView as it provides many of the databinding, selection, paging, sorting, modifying features of the gridview (see here) but gives full control over the output template. Here is a good series of articles on the ListView
Although I am a strong advocate of using ASP.NET MVC, there is a considerable learning curve required to do this and the change in mindset required to work properly in the MVC way should not be underestimated.
I've never had a problem using these controls. I find that they have the same advantages and disadvantages as any set of controls - native or third party. If they do 100% of what you need them to do, then fantastic. If they don't give you 100%, and don't give you events or virtual methods to override, then you're stuck and you'd need to go back to more fundamental controls and do a little programming of your own. I always found the repeaters and lists to be very handy in that respect.
to be very short & direct, ASP.NET ready made controls are the best solution for most projects.
I’ll explain you in detail, but first, ASP.NET ready made controls are known as ASP.NET Controls Framework or ASP.NET Controls Library. I am insisting on the key phrases because, when you search google like search engines, you need to search by appropriate keywords to get better results.
There are many control libraries available on the internet and most are offering free tools too. Besides the question whether should I use it in my enterprise applications or not, you need to understand your requirement.
The first point is YES, you can absolutely use the controls in your enterprise applications, because there controls are more reliable and built by control development experts, tested by strong product testing team and are enriched with quality documentation. Note, you will also get good community support, human resources with controls knowledge, and compliance with industry standards. The best of all, you will be able to save your time on all the above factors. Some controls even gain you more advantages with its features & functionalities which you wouldn’t have even thought about.
The most important things you need to do when choosing a control
1. You need to go through their knowledgebase
2. Search relevant articles for the control you choose
3. Download evaluation version and DIY
Many good control libraries are available in the internet. I am using obout control libraries and I recommend you to go for obout. Besides quality control sets, these guys provide personal development support. Most time I can’t separate them from my internal team. Check www.obout.com for yourself.
Will anyone suggest good 3rd party controls for asp.net development.
Especially gridview.tabcontrols,treeview.Menu
Please suggest controls which scores well on all points below
Easy development,
good performance in run time.
Less page overhead and less page
objects etc.
faster page loading.
I used few but had bad experience on page performance.
Thanks
Swapna MC
The consensus here at SO seems to be DevExpress. Telerik and ComponentArt are good, too. DevExpress seems to be the fastest performer.
How about "obout" controls.
This is suggested by some one .But i am facing performance issues now.Page load is very slow.I am not sure its the controls causing the problem.
swapna
I have experience with Telerik and DevExpress. As others have noted, DevExpress is probably the fastest; however, I still strongly prefer Telerik. Their big advantage is that they have been around a very long time and have a huge support database. Compared to every other .Net control library I've worked with, theirs is, by far, the easiest to get help for.
Considering that each library will have its own nuances and bugs, going with the one with the most vibrant user community and support forum is a smart move.
One more point, DevExpress's AspXPivotGrid is fantastic. Clients absolutely love pivot grids, and they are a smart move for the first report and clients will cut you a lot of slack when they can build their own reports.
telerik asp.net ajax controls provide a quite rich client-side api. it's their most attractive side for me.
I need to make a client able to drag and drop images into category-folders in an ASP.NET 3.5 web-app.
I was hoping that an option existed, that was almost as easy to use as the Reorderlist from Ajax Control Toolkit, and where I did not have to look into JQuery or similar handcoding.
What are your recommendations?
Similar questions have been asked before, like this 6 months ago...: ASP.net AJAX Drag/Drop? where MooTools is recommended, but 6 months is a long time in the ASP.NET/Ajax world, so maybe a better and even simpler option exists now?
Commercial components are also an option - well up to 200$ anyway.
My experience with the Reorder List in the Ajax Control Toolkit, as with many other 3rd party providers, is that most of them don't seem to be worth the effort. Definitely try them before you buy.
Unfortunately a lot of the samples/components out there are all too client-based and always seem to fall short on real-world uses and the sorts of interaction you need with ASP.Net applications (e.g. handling postback). Dragging a div around isn't that complicated, but that's all a lot of examples do. If your needs don't exactly mirror their offering try something else.
The Manning book ASP.NET AJAX in Action is a good reference on code for performing drag and drop. It uses Microsoft.Web.Preview, but this hasn't been updated in quite some time which is a worry. I have created a pretty good drag and drop UI with MS's PreviewDragDrop, it does work cross-browser, and it's pretty easy to code. Preview DLL's aside, the Manning book is great for understanding Microsofts AJAX API.
However, since jQuery is going to be shipped and supported with Visual Studio, I would recommend using it over anything else in a vain attempt to future-proof yourself.
A final piece of advice is never outsource your core competency. If this page is a core part of your offering you're better off implementing it yourself using library code like jQuery or Microsoft.Ajax rather than relying on a 3rd party component. However, if it's just a minor part of your site, then go ahead and use 3rd party controls.
Ref: My Version of Microsoft.Web.Preview.dll is 1.1.61025.0.
i have been very very happy with telerik's treeview control and use it for almost any asp.net application which needs a treeview drag and drop.
they allow free development licenses (not production though) so i guess you should give it a try. go to www.telerik.com and have a look
This is another Mootools suggestion, but you might find the Mif.Tree plugin useful. It's an MIT license. There are also code examples for each of the demos and API docs.
Robert>>
After spending 4-5 painful days of hacks, double-hacks and hacks to get around other hacks, I have come to the same conclusion as you. Especially the reorderlist from the ajax control toolkit drove me to the very edge of insanity.
It seems to me there is no real way around learning JQuery and simply doing the stuff myself. I used to shy away from doing client-side code, but with AJAX so much code has moved away from being just serverside.
JQuery has just been moved to the top of my personal study program.
Jquery has drag and drop controls.
Link
Maybe that will help...
earlier today someone asked about free/cheap component libraries for winforms. I'm interested in the same thing, but for asp.net. There are some great commercial libraries like Telerik and DevExpress, but are there any great free/cheap alternatives?
I am not sure what you constitute as cheap, but the Peter Blum ASP.NET controls are a good buy.
peterblum.com
I would suggest that you can get free components at sites like codeproject, but you are going to end up sinking a ton of time separating the wheat from the chaff and figuring out how to use them, and since they are not a unified library the APIs and integration will be a new learning curve for each different control.
So I would recommend, unless you are a hobbyist with a lot of time on your hands, it is without a doubt worth the money for your company to buy something from Peter Blum, DevExpress, Infragistics, Telerik, or one of the other vendors who will provide support and documentation.
I'm enjoying the obout.com control suite for asp.net - $200 buys you the whole suite and they seem to be actively developing it.
The Grid and Treeview are very strong in this suite, and I've been impressed with support.
Check out the ASP.NET Control Gallery.
"The Control Gallery is a directory of over 900 controls and components to use in your own applications. You will find everything from simple controls to full e-commerce components."
Not all of them are free but definitely worth a look.
Try this free custom web controls : Excentrics World .NET